NASA Images Large Spherical Objects Inside Corona of SUN, page 1
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reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 03:28 AM by skepticantiseptic
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Hmmm very interesting. But when it comes to direct photos of the sun I'm afraid Phage will have a field day calling it an artifact of lens flare etc.

It does look interesting though. Let's see what explanation(s) for the official NASA images brings.


reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 03:31 AM by randyvs
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yeah or he might want some more.

That won't be a good arguement here.
Same perspective position to the t?



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reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 04:20 AM by nophun
reply to post by skepticantiseptic


Umm whats the mystery ? It is a sunspot .. Sunspot 1041 to be exact ..
spaceweather.com...

edit .. What am I looking at ? lol I just reread your post and I think I am lost

[edit on 21-1-2010 by nophun]
okay first time around I completely did not read your post.
my bad

[edit on 21-1-2010 by nophun]


reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 05:19 AM by CHRLZ
They look rather like sensor/processing artefacts to me, but I'll happily admit I don't know for sure.

The initial images from the Stereo spacecraft are posted at very low resolution, and they are 'edited up' to enhance contrast. That means that any defects, and even the jpeg boundary artefacts (do you think those little faint squarish boxes are real objects..??) are artificially enhanced, even though they are not real detail.

Later (usually a month or so), Nasa finishes processing the full resolution raw files and replaces those poor quality initial images with much better versions - if you browse backwards thru the data, you will find that at some point the images change to better versions.

The full processing includes use of a very sophisticated image engine that not only manages to screw every last minute detail from the gathered data, but also uses a 'subtraction' method to eliminate any junk caused by sensor problems, hot/failed pixels, etc. They take test 'darkframes' to determine how best to do this, and they average the data they get over a period, including using future frames. These frames are not yet taken, at the time the original image is collected... That's one reason it takes a long time. It's all documented if you look hard.

Now, for those who think this means that NASA have plenty of time to manipulate the data.. Well, no. The original .FTS (or FITS) raw images are in fact available to the public as soon as they are taken. If you want to get better resolution images earlier you can download your very own FITS processing software, get the originals as they come in, and play to your heart's content in the hope you can beat NASA to it. You can even get hold of the same powerful image processing engine that they use, but it won't run on a PC - it requires much more grunt.

I've tried using basic FITS software, just as an experiment.. While I did manage to get a few decent images, it was hard work using rather unfriendly software, and of course you then have to wait for the dark frames to come in, then work out how to average and subtract them...

That's why most folk just let them get on with it. It's frikkin' hard work!! (And NASA's full archiving service (which is where you get the FTS images) was also pretty unfriendly last time I used it.)

As for the shot into the sun image.. Try being a little scientific with your lens flare display. Move the camera around slightly so the sun is located just a little left of centre, then a little up and left, then up, then up and right, then right, etc.. taking images as you go. (But see warning below..) Then show us the results. You might learn something, as you see the flares move around..

Lens flares are INEVITABLE when shooting into the Sun. Extremely high quality lenses (eg the best Leica/Zeiss/Zuiko's, perhaps even the odd Nikon/Canon/Minolta pro-series) may be able to suppress them so well that they are almost invisible, but if that camera is a consumer compact... Not a snowball's chance in hell. You WILL get little blobs, streaks and sparkles that are simply NOT real. They come from light bouncing around in all directions - internal reflections/refractions from the lens elements, the aperture mechanism and the inside surfaces of the lens barrel..

But do bear in mind that it ISN'T wise to leave a compact (ie non DSLR) camera pointing at the sun for more than 10 seconds or so, as the sensor is being exposed to damaging IR and UV radiation focused to a small intense point on the sensor by the lens. While the sensor is probably somewhat protected by a IR/UV filter, it isn't perfect and after a while... permanent damage may result. The cheaper the camera, the more likely the danger of damage.


reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 08:27 AM by Klaatumagnum
reply to post by skepticantiseptic



If it's a camera anomaly, wouldn't it be in the same position on each photo? These things have to be huge, the size of Earth? The Sun is occupied by beings in the 6th dimension. Very cool post!



reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 02:33 PM by groingrinder
reply to post by randyvs



Interesting. It lines right up with the lens flare at 3:00.


reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 02:49 PM by skepticantiseptic
reply to post by CHRLZ



I don't need any convincing. I know UFO's are a real thing and also these "could be" unknown large objects circling the Sun.

Since I have already made up my mind in a scientific fashion in regards to just what the UFO phenomenon is, I needn't do all that extra work. But thanks for trying to get me motivated.

fyi...I was just pointing out the interesting "spheres" in the current images.
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