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Gakona HAARP on Full Power during Earthquake in Haiti!

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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

I dispute that I know the technology can be "incredibly destructive".


Here is a link that explains it pretty good, assuming it is accurate. I believe the source myself, but many others might not.

How HAARP works

the above linked info is not the "official" dumbed down version of how it works

[edit on 22-1-2010 by antideceit]




posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:08 AM
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I see nothing about earthquakes in the article or Eastlund's patent.

I see claims of "mind control" and "death rays", things that Eastlund himself never claimed were possible. Neither HAARP, nor any other ionospheric heating facility approaches the power levels called for in Eastlund's patent.

As is usually the case with this sort of article, the author takes a few facts and reaches outrageous conclusions and uses wild speculation. It actually is pretty well "dumbed down".

[edit on 1/22/2010 by Phage]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:21 AM
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First of all if either you or I knew the latest in state of the art top secret and above technology, we would not be allowed to transfer our thoughts about it. Agreed?
The ionosphere has been a play ground for RF for decades. My dad used to talk to Jordan's king on HF over 40 years ago from NJ when the king was at home in Jordan with about 30 watts. When the atmospheric conditions allowed it. Nature was in control back then. It wasn't until Wolfman Jack started transmitting out of Mexico because 50,000 watts was considered overly compeditive in the states.

from wicki

United States. In an interview with writer Tom Miller, Smith described the reach of the XERB signal: "We had the most powerful signal in North America. Birds dropped dead when they flew too close to the tower. A car driving from New York to L.A. would never lose the station."[3] Most of the border stations broadcast at 250,000 watts, five times the U.S. limit, meaning that their signals were picked up all over North America, and at night as far away as Europe and the Soviet Union.

to be continued.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:23 AM
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www.viewzone.com...
that page shows the info , but I guess it doesn't use the word earthquake, I thought it did, but maybe I read earthquake in a different part of viewzone. There is another link on the same website that tells a complete story about what the author learned about haarp from reportedly people in the know. I think believing it would be based on other's testimony only though...
edit: also the higher "billions of watts" is quite feasable using phased arrays of haarp technology. Ive done a lot of reading and research in just one day and have seen enough to believe that haarp can easily create devastating earthquakes. Some of those sources of info are coming from military people breaking their oath , but those could be just lies. I find it easier to believe it could do bad things just reading about the technology than any military insiders spilling the beans on what it can do. either way I am convinced myself.
Cheers


[edit on 22-1-2010 by antideceit]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 01:44 AM
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XERB: fun story but it's more likely that the birds were killed by flying into the tower than by the RF radiation (Unless it was in a very tight beam but since the idea is to broadcast, it wasn't. The power was radiating in every direction). www.towerkill.com...

The 250 kW number refers to effective radiated power, not transmitter power which would be substantially less. ERP ratings of 250kW are not unusual nowadays.

HAARP's antennas are spread over an area of 30.6 acres. Each antenna (which have "bird balls" on the guy wires to discourage birds from flying into the structure) is powered by two transmitters of 10kW each. Combined, the 180 antennas can produce a total of 3.6 mW (20kw each) but because of the great area, the power density of the beam is not very great (29 watts/square meter). The beam spreads and loses power with distance. For example, at 100km the beam (which is limited to within 30º of vertical) has spread to an area of 233,000 acres and has a power density of .2078 micro-watts/square centimeter at its center. That is 0.002 watts per square meter. Your body produces about 90 watts, if you were in the center of the beam you wouldn't notice it. It is no "death beam".

The ELF radiation which HAARP can stimulate in the ionosphere can reach power levels of 10's of pT (pico Tesla). Naturally produced ELF radiation in the ionosphere reaches levels of 300 pT and higher. If hugely powerful ELF waves were being produced there are thousands of scientists who study the ionosphere who would know about it...and squawk about it.

[edit on 1/22/2010 by Phage]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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The above calculations would not work for stacked longitudinal pulses. The power would be stored and sent as potential, and when longitudinal pulses are properly tuned to resonance with the earth, energy flows into the system, the measured output would be far greater than calculated from conventional so called laws. THe power output would be dependent on what was used as a capacitor, and to what it was discharging to. I think the nig mis conception here is that it is transverse EMF, and/or raw electricity that the system works from, and it is the opposite. Longitudinal pulses just represent energy potential. If you can find a way to to store the 7-8 cycle resonance, or possibly lower reflections that would be weaker and more controllable, such as around 2cycles, and send those pure potential waves to a device that has high capacitance, it can wait to discharge this energy. The energy is not electricity, it is derrived from electricity, and can be returned to electricity of a greater amount than put in, or other form of energy, such as mechanical vibration, heat from ifra-red,lasers, etc. Longitudinal pulses, when matched with the earth (capacitor ball) do not attenuate, so like cern, you can keep tapping the pulse, only it cant go any faster (it is already at light speed), so it gains pressure or voltage in the medium. When resonating the ckt opens to the medium, and the resonating ckt provides the excess energy to break the symetry of the ambient medium. Longitudinal pulses cannot be measured in the conventional way, especially in resonance. Your calculations describe electricity based on Newtonian physics. THey won't work, and mean nothing. THe system itself would never work off of that physics. Tesla tried to tell hertz this, that there was always another wave component that was responsible for the electrical work. Planets and suns are big capacitors. THey have charge capability, hence "gravity" has to to with their volume, not their mass. We have no idea what the planets weigh, mass is relative to many things. Planetary motion can be preidicted without mass, as keppler did. You can pull the mass out of the equations and they still work. THe solar system is one big self tuning electrical device. If you can do it on a ckt board, you can do it in the solar system or planet. There is no mass to the process here, there is no limitation once resonance has occured, other than the size of the capicitor. In this case the earth is a conductor to the inner capicitor plate, (the earth surface) and the atmoshpere is the dialectric between the earth and the outer plate (ionosphere) This total capacitor resonance occurs at 7.83 cycles. Changing the properties of the atmosphere (changing the dialectric value) would cause the ckt tune to change, and would change the transitional time between stored pulses maximum when transferred. This would be done to store more or less energy potential. Higher frequency waves would not be used as they attenuate when the wave profile. Matching the frequency to the analog transerve wave, the wave form has the same size as the earth + ionosphere. They whole process is like a 3 dimensional pond that has the same shape as the longitudinal wave, hence sphere, or the earth.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 08:17 AM
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I am not saying the Haitian or any other earth quake was caused by mankind but I am convinced of the possibility for RADIO to do major damage not only to the earth but more importantly the atmosphere.
Factor in your current thousands of scientists (most likely under Manhattan Project type security restrictions). Just what the heck are they working on if HAARP is a done deal and that's all she wrote?
That's like having a manned space program without men or women in space.

Here are some considerations. And this is with just the old hat knowledge.
Single-sideband, Lower sideband, Bandpass filtering,
Hartley modulator and the Weaver modulator methods
are just a few archaic means of Frequency manipulation.
When you include micro wave and laser technology in mega high powered transmissions coupled with the electrical and chemical manipulation of the upper atmosphere. The ability to develop a cone or atmospheric parabolic repeater is more than enough evidence for me that HAARP type technology can do serious physical pin point damage.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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Neat explanation scorpio
Would the spinning of the earth and it's magnetic component work in concert
with the dialectic capacitive component as a inductor? Like a giant LC circuit? (capacitive/inductive)



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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My reaction to your post was justified in my opinion. Your post seemed pretty negative and it was directed towards me.

But your right, we can just agree to disagree. That's cool with me. I'm a pretty easy going fella.

Water under the bridge?

Either way respect to you -Thom-, sincerely.

Have a good one bro.

~ Zeus



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario was envisaged by the US Military One Day Before the Earthquake!
www.globalresearch.ca...
www.sott.net...

This incredible news it give me the shivers! I wonder myself: is still only an horrible coincidence (like HAARP) or into the Pentagon there are Psy-Ops “Super Psychics Agents” that in remote view can predict disasters, or….. is this earthquake…. PLANNED?

Right: A Haiti disaster relief scenario had been envisaged at the headquarters of US Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) in Miami ONE DAY PRIOR TO THE EARTHQUAKE!

Too much awesome coincidence... too much!



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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There is no data, and you both know it. This is about what I believe, nothing more.

Do you really think information about things like that is going to be available to the general public?

Picking apart someones post and being critical of what they say isn't what this web-site is about. That kind of behavior doesn't help anyone in my opinion.

I can't prove this is going on no more than either one of you can prove that it isn't.

DGFenrir, why are you even getting involved? I'm sure he/she can handle themselves.

So, once again let's just agree to disagree, OK?

~ Zeus

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Zeus2573]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Your post on page 5 is disturbing at the least.
I am glad you posted it.
Let's just hope it is nothing worse than just a good find.?????



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Another HAARP "coincidence" about Niiagata Earthquake in Japan in 17 Jul 2007...




[edit on 22-1-2010 by Imagir]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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More magnetometer traces? What happened here?

No earthquakes. The magnetic storm is a result of solar activity.


[edit on 1/22/2010 by Phage]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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I know that there are also natural phenomena and maybe HAARP activity before some of that events is only a terrible coincidences, But, as you know,.... HAARP is a WEAPON!
And we have already deeply discuss here www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry phage, I don't play your game. No more.

You want our fact first, then you can distort them as you please.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Maybe you are playing a game but I'm not.
I have facts about HAARP, you have speculation and misunderstanding.
HAARP is a research facility, it is not a weapon.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Hugo Chaves said today that it was a controlled earthquake from USA through russia reports.

And this is just the "Small" Earthquake.

The big one will be in Iran, Tehran!

nyhederne.tv2.dk...

For the lazy ones ill translate it

U.S. is apparently in possession of a "seismic weapons" which it used to start the earthquake in Haiti last week, where up to 200,000 people feared dead. It considers Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, according to foxnews.com.

Venezuleansk State TV quoted a report from the Russian fleet, the earthquake was triggered when the U.S. tested a earthquake system that can also generate "abnormal weather systems that can create floods, dry and hurricanes."

According to television station says the U.S. is also behind an earthquake in California, 9 January and an earthquake in China in 2008, which killed 90,000 people.

The "small" quakes in Haiti, according to Chavez is only a test before a large earthquake, the U.S. will cause in Iran.



[edit on 22-1-2010 by dimicgs]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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Hugo's source is the internet's premier hoaxer. None other than Sorcha Faal.



A grim report prepared by the Russian Northern Fleet for Prime Minister Putin is stating today that the catastrophic earthquake that has devastated the Island of Haiti was the ‘clear result’ of a United States Navy test of one of its ‘earthquake weapons’ planned to be used by the Americans upon the Persian Nation of Iran but had gone ‘horribly wrong’.

www.whatdoesitmean.com...



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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The earth would be the flywheel for this lc ckt, so yes, to a degree it would be the inductor, since it is part of the the transfer ckt. It does operate similar to an lc ckt, but there is a little more to it, in my opinion. The earth itself in balance in normal orbit has inductance, as the field you indicated, stored field, or earths magnetic field. All of them are tied together. The elliptical in orbits, I see as fine tuning the dielectric between attracted particles (sun, planets). Depending on polarity and energy transition from source, capacitors and inductors very much compliment each other like polarity itself. The earth and all planets, to me, seem as if they behave as either, depending on the adjustment necessary to maintain electrical/field balance. The sun/planets can store, give off, or maintain, and can do it in either direction. THe earth is minor source and sun is major source. If the sun started going low on source, I think all planets orbits and polarity would adjust, to maintain the major source. THe same could be said onto the galaxy center, and unto the universe. This is why closed loop analysis equations brought forth in U1 physics, falls short on everythin way smaller or larger than our perception. Quantum did the small, grand unified did the large, but it kept getting bigger and smaller. Safe to assume we can jump away from physical objects to define, as everything is comprised of energy, and energy can have no mass, it only uses it. This is where it gets simpler, because no need to build better microscopes and telescopes. The fractel pattern arrived along time ago, and it appears to be accurate enough to engineer. IN the Haarp ckt simplified and explained in terms of an LC ckt, take two LC ckts and collide the pulses together(opposite polarity) at a very high frequency, then take the resonant pulse and let it go to a capacitor. No electrons would flow, but the pulses would be stored as virtual charge. Since they have no mass, there is plenty of room. It is widely known that charge surplus, though it can be due to electrons building up, is actually not the source. The thing that caused the elctrons to "pile up" is the source, and that is the field its. This can be seen in a capicitor, which is a battery, and is the opposite in phase lag to an inductor. This opposition accurs in the physical property of one have variable resistance, and the inductor having little or no resistence. The very difficult part is that, not only does the individual lc ckts have to be in tune with themselves, all lc ckts have to be tuned with each other, and those have to be timed to the whole ckt that produces work. Big objects will have lower frequencies and ckt boards will have high frequencies. It is tying these two concepts together, without allowing much electron flow in the main ckt, if any at all, by amplyfying the ckt down with respect to time. Really it is the use and understanding of time itself that is the key, and time is nothing more than geometry. High frequency has less and less time and space between events. There is time and space between the speed of light, such as the earth to the sun, but the resonance is what allows for the energy in. When you vibrate and cancel the balance of the ether, you have broken its symetry, and that allows the energy of the medium into the ckt. Scientists are now referring to it as the negative energy, or sometimes anti-matter/matter, but there explanations are mainstream and unpractical. It just means there is a whole lot of energy that lies below, what is now falsely considered as the "ground state." The ground state is way up the potential charts. The energy is just energy, it can be used however, like all energies. This one remains in the dark because of its implications, and humans are still to irresponsible to use it whole scale, without upsetting the balance further than we already have, just in our survivalist, insecure, fear based behavior.



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