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Is there anything more "evil" than Satanism?

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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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exactly.

Though there may have been some guy named Jesus, he certainly wasn't walking on water, etc.

That's all just a big silly fairy tale.




posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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which has many adaptations the christian jesus being more famous but other religions have there own adaptations even before christianity they took and acquired it like many other stories from many other religions if you want to start a religion that will succeed many of the other religions and make it seem the righ tto choose acquire many other religions stories so that it is easier for everyone to adapt to no matter the belief then scare everyone with storied of fire and brimstone and being posessed by demons along with controling what everyone else does making sure that di vinci's and darwin's dont enlighten everyone as to make the church look like the fool because in the end they want to be the ones right and when its proven that there wrong they have to evolve with society in order to keep there money flowing in!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by miriam0566

Originally posted by silent thunder
Just out of curiosity, is there a more evil "-ism" than Satanism?


christian clergy

not only do they know that what they do is against god's will, but they do it in god's name.




Amen to that
- A christian who deliberately goes against his/her fellow man.. definitely not trying to be a christian..

just like i could pretend to be a physicist... but though i SAY i'm a physicist, doesn't mean i know anything about the fundamentals or any of the basic practices... just because i wear a fancy white lab coat - doesn't mean i know any more about physics than the next man/woman..

however - cause i like how it makes me look, ill keep wearing it and keep saying it - it makes me sound and look COOL.

And when people tell me i'm not a a physicist - ill ask them where their lab coat is and tell them they're ignorant...

Also i find it incredibly interesting that people ask "how many people has Christianity Killed" ... well - the religion itself has not killed anyone, however the fakers who say everything they do is in the name of God, have. People kill people, religions don't.

However that cuts for most religions.



[edit on 20-1-2010 by FeralMonkeyMagic]



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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i think ignorance is the most evil of all besides religion and money!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:34 AM
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so therefore you were never on topic until now! so them first 2 posts that were calling out everyone talking about satanism you were never on topic because you were so worried abotu what everyone else so therefore you are nothing but a huge hypocrite!

[edit on 20-1-2010 by metalholic]



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
Just out of curiosity, is there a more evil "-ism" than Satanism?


Satanism is evil?

Sorry, I quoted your post but didn't read it because that line alone is pure garbage. If you took your time to distinguish between stupid ignorant satan worship and what is true satanism, you'd understand.

There is a difference. But Im guessing that is not the point of the thread...






posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Whine Flu
There is one thing that is a lot more evil than Satanism. You wanna know what it is?

SLIPKNAWT LOL

wen ur a tenager wif strugglz cos ur gf left u and ur in a uppa midle class family slipknawt can get u soooooo pumpt up dat u actualy becum da devil


You are wrong, f*ked and overrated, I think I'm gunna be sick and it's your fault..

this is the end of everything - you are the end of everything..



Nothing wrong with slipknot to temper the hysterical nu metal rage - it even sounds better.

Seeing them live is a brutal wonderful experience. Or was that the excess alcohol getting there... Who can tell.. Lay off the knot..


Oh and it's my old school metal speaking, not my teenage angst... cant have both you know.. old age settles that.




posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Wookiepyou_mis-understand_satan@! garbage.


Yourself included when it comes to the -ISM...

no?




posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by metalholic
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no what are you talking about? really!?! because the ope claims that satanism is evil and this is forum based on discussion and i made a claim to read a book before forming an opinion because it is better to educate yourself before making the opinion and then you come in here claiming that i was off topic when i was right on topic maybe you forgot what this forum was about maybe you forgot what the title was idk? but i'm not mad as this is a debate..i have no religion and want no religion as people in a religion tend to think there # dont stink and everyone else is wrong and dont want to listen to reason and are usually not every educated because when a fact is thrown up like the evils christianity has caused in the world such as wanting to keep people ignorant and afraid referring to the dark ages and then coming over here and proclaiming that native americans are posessed by demons and the devil and we should take the bible and shove it down there throat so they dont burn in eternal flame people tend to turn deaf ear to it so i say take your religion and keep it to yourself its jus as evil as any other religion out there maybe worse seeing as how muslims which people view as terrorists have never cause so much damage!


Paragraphs... I went cross eyed.

I wouyld say second line but instead I'll add

If there is any contention that the satanic bible is not allowed to be discussed when satanism is, then whoever makes that claim, is absurd.

"Hey you christians are mad!!"
"Read the bible!!"
"NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE, STAY ON TOPIC!!!!11"

*shoots self in face with homemade dry ice bomb*



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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I would say alot of things are more "Evil". But what is evil... Your perception of evil could be anothers of good!

Thats why this world doesn't function as it should because everyone thinks they are different, when in reality we are all equal and the same.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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wookiep can't even be bothered to check the spelling in his sig. so there's no way anyone is going to be able to set him straight as to the facts of actual satanism. I guess he's off to listen to Stryper.....



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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Hi silent,
Answer: yes, the lie of Cristianity (which encompasses Satanism)!

A blanket statement; yet with the absence of one, you would not have the other.
Peace to you, and good luck on your quest.
K
P.s: Look towards the world banking system; other than the farce of the religious lie, they are the kings...they are watching us all


[edit on 1/20/2010 by KRISKALI777]



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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I would say capitalism is the worst.

I prefer living in a 50/50 mix of a capitalist and socialist society. I hate it when people prefer greed over the well-being of their fellow countrymen.

I don't think the two can exist without each other, but neither one should dominate.

As for angsty music, i really dig some of the old offspring. Meh, i', getting old :p



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
To me Religion as a whole is evil. The only reason people fear Satanism is because they believe Satan is real. Satan is the best friend of the Christian church. He's kept it business for so many years. Fear is the root religion. If religion didn't preach about the evils of modern society. Then what's there to worship a God for?


You may indeed be right brother. But in my case, the bi polar foci of all the monotheistic religions will ballance at a point in one important way. I am a scientist so thats how I view the universe. As for me, I was told as a child that despite the primitive level of the human race, we will advance to what ever level is next. Over time I went to being a recovering Catholic, and then I paid attention to other Christian views. Do I fear Satan? That depends. When ever you get enough people to congragate with thoughts of hate and confussion, you will see true evil.

Evil is most often thought of as an out side entity that in the course of getting access to your soal, it demands you submit to it's will. Wrong, worng, wrong. The true nature of the human soal is problematic> It is designed to crash. As humans we have a choice; we can spread evil, a lot of which is based on fear, or we can accept that human beings are doing very stupid things. We don't need Satan. Were very good at drinking snake oil. The next few years should be very eye opening, if we live through it.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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*sight*

After reading this post over, It seems that basically NONE of you grasped the original intent of what I was trying to convey. Or maybe I just didn't wiord it right.

This was not intended to be a "christrianity good"/"satan bad" thread. There are already millions of those on thge net and quite frinakly, they bore me to tears. Nobody convinces anyone of anything and the arguments are always circular and basically repetitive.

My original question was intended to be much more specific and nuanced, butr ovbviously I failed. Let me try and rephrase. Luciferianism is "antinomian," in that it goes against the gain of conventiaonally understood bibliucal/catholic strains of christianity. Satanism seems even farther along the antinomian scale. (and to those whove mentioned Anton LeVey , please...he's a two bit showan. If you want to research REAL satanists I suggest googling "Order of the Nine Angles," for example, which were involved in human sacrifice and blood-drinking in the 1970s before being driven underground. LeVay is a two-bit carnival barker in comparison. And yes, I read his laugable "Satanic bible." A joke for adolescent boys).

So myu question, if I can phrase it correctly, is that is there any other "dark doctrrine" that would be even more antinomian than Satanism...i.e., that revels in evil purely for the sake of evil rather than to gain political power (as per the NWO luciferians) or personal power (as per most satanists). This is a very specific questiuon and there is no need to bring Christianity into it. Certainly Christian history is stained with evil, there is no argument there. But that's not what I'm reaching for with this rather specific post.

I hope that clarifies things a bit...



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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is there a more evil than Satanism?


Christianity of course

You can never tell when someone has become a "not true christian" as they all hide behind the same fish.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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Do you fear Satan more than your bank manager?
You may be one of the more lucky/intellegent individuals, whom are not shackelled to the 'beast' by way of debt...but, alas, individuals in that situation are less common these days...and if not, you were probably born with a silver spoon?

If not, please accept my apology for being too presumptuous........



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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if real satanism that retarded # where they offer real human sacrifices and have big ol sex orgies then no one would really want to be apart of it who would want to join a religion especially in the 70's and be a risk of being a sacrifice that stuff was people who were not by all means considered sane by you or me but like charles manson said the question of insanity is irrelevant just like the question of evil its irrelevant whats evel to you or me might not be to someone else and the fact that you bring up that human sacrifice stuff the mayans and other cultures used to practice it but they wasnt satanists as a matter of fact you cant say that lavey's satanism isnt! and if you did read that book then what should be the number one holiday for a satanist? also what are the last 13 or 19 pages about? what is the name for people who play on peoples sympathy?



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:03 AM
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This was not intended to be a "christrianity good"/"satan bad" thread.


Well frankly you shouldn't have started it using the christian god satan, what the hell did you expect Smurfs verses Demons ?



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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money religion and ignorance those are the biggest evil's and if thats not good enough for you then con's! which is what christianity is made up of! along with david icke and many others!



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