Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by polychronopolis
I don't think I would have used the Nazi's as an example...
The example still works when you stop considering those people to be human, and instead dehumanize them to the level of social parasites, roaches,
demons, or whatever. Then killing them becomes righteous, noble. It becomes a good and pure act once again. Most all genocides involve vigorous
dehumanization campaigns. It's hard to kill another human being, but slaying monsters is a glorious endeavor.
Consider, for a moment, that all those people in that picture were convicted child molesters. Would they still be considered human beings in your eyes
while looking over casefile after casefile of vile inhumane actions that I can't even bring myself to suggest? Would you execute a cell block full of
chomo bastards without hesitation? Would it be a noble act, or an atrocity? Most here would say (if prior experience holds true) that they would
execute every last one of them personally and righteously.
I couldn't. Not because of lack of want to do so, but because I cannot allow myself to view them as inhuman - no matter how inhuman their actions may
seem to me. Albeit, I've never been put in that situation... and the situation is a large determinant of how you react, regardless of how "good" a
person you are. The Stanford Prison Experiment demonstrated that little bit of social psychology quite astutely.
Going by pure statistics, were we both in Nazi Germany during the Third Reich and ordered to execute those people - regardless of how we personally
felt - we probably would have done it, and later rationalized it as a good act to keep from a mental breakdown. The Milgram experimented was perhaps
one of the most unethical experiments devised... and also one of the most vitally important.
In regards to Atheism as a belief system, I have trouble reconciling that concept. While some self-proclaimed "Militant Atheists" proactively
announce their position of disbelief, the vast majority of Atheists I've encountered are Atheistic to the concept of god in the same way they are
Atheistic to the concept of cold fusion. Possible? Sure. Likely? No. It's simply a non-issue without sufficient evidence. The only reason so many
make it an issue is because of the harassment they personally face or because of the intrusion that religious views present in society - be it
governmental, educational, moral, or cultural.
Personally, I'm more in the Deist category. I believe in god, but I recognize the fallacy of fine tuning arguments and without positive evidence to
back up my belief - I concede that my belief is irrational. Deism used to be belief based on reason, not faith. Reason is a double edged razor, though
it seems, because it has shown in light of the last few centuries of scientific discovery that Deism is faith based at it's core. I can accept that.