HUGE NEWS: BROWN WINS! Coakley calls Brown to Concede Election in Massachusetts

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by skunknuts

 

There isn't going to be real change until progressives and libertarians come together to form a real populist movement. I'd say the true tea-partiers (not the ass backwards ignorant teabaggers), and the educated progressive movement share much.

They do! And that's why I keep stating that Republicans will win big in 2010 because these two groups will not "combine" until after Republicans gain seats.

Republicans can no longer be the party of NO and sit on the sidelines. Unfortunately the only thing they bring to the table are tax cuts, corporate tax cuts...which will do nothing to curb the deficit and nothing to help the average person in this country.

I heard a "progressive" talk show host...for the time ever....state that a "Revolution" is coming. Yes, we've heard it from Glen Beck a thousand times...but never have I heard it from a real progressive, and he's not a progressive as Glen Beck paints them out to be.

Everyone wants the fraudulent activity to stop with the banks, they want corruption out, they want jobs back in this country, they want the Federal Reserve and Government to be transparent, they want big money out of Washington, they want accountability in government.

We CAN come together on this. I think we will. It's just not time yet. In 2011 it will really begin...if the economy holds up. If not...it could be sooner. But it will happen.

I just think Liberals needed to get burned...just as Conservatives did with Bush.

It's becoming blatantly obvious who is running our country and it's definitely not us.

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I hear you brother. I'm glad you listened to a progressive voice for yourself. I too have learned that there are a significant number of principled libertarians that want actual liberty for people. I just get so pissed when people scream about 'freedom' this, and 'freedom' that, yet they are really just in favor of corporatism (and worse, many seem to be closeted racist fascists that would prefer the christian form of sharia law).

The constitution guarantees INDIVIDUAL rights and liberties. Corporations are not individuals, they have many more resources (and thus ability to influence policy/ message in numerous ways), and much less responsibility!! Hating corporatism does not make me a fascist. Actually, closer to the opposite, IMHO.

[edit on 1/19/2010 by skunknuts]

wonderful news! now dems will have another excuse not to pass legislation and stall everything because they don't have the 60 anymore.

but let's face it dems never wanted change, they sold us out to the corporations with their so-called "healthcare reform" (and this is coming from an Obama supporter!). hopefully the senate will come back and both parties will pass a small bill that bans pre-existing conditions, annual and lifetime limits and a few other bad things which are the main cause of bankruptcies and stop the giveaway to individual states or corporations.

nah who am i kidding? that's never going to happen, republicans and dems are the same we really need new faces in politics.

reply to post by DarkSecret

we really need new faces in politics.

I can see a lot of Dems and Reps leaving their party and running as independents. But in the end they would still vote the party line.

Where do we find these new faces?

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Avenginggecko

 

Unfortunately, I think we'll just continue with the corporate status quo, which is exactly what corporate America wants.

This is what I don't understand:

Health insurance companies and big pharma were giving big contributions to Coakley's campaign...which to me signifies that they were going to get huge handouts or they wouldn't support her as she was the 60th vote.

So what is it? The health insurance industry against the rest of the corporations? What you are stating makes this the only viable plausible answer...IMO...and that..in essence...means the average person has no representation.

It makes sense when you realize that the new electorate in America is the corporation and not the citizen. Industries will act in their own interests, kind of like a group of shadowy political parties, and sometimes what's good for healthcare isn't good for banks, energy, retail, etc.

I think it's very possible that this was a financial industry vs. healthcare industry battle. When people don't need to re mortgage their homes and take out loans to pay for medical expenses, etc. banks lose money on debt interest. Plus, with another Republican in the Senate it's going to be much harder for the government to come down on Wall Street, so I think the financial sector benefits there.

Not that any of it matters. I have a feeling Americans are so easily led that we'll need to swing right and left before enough people finally get the big picture that they're just cattle for the slaughter.

reply to post by Romantic Rights


You are aware that the Health Care Plan in that State, which is similar to to the national one being proposed, failed miserably. How can that not factor in.

Also it was Independents who did this. People are quitting both Parties in droves.

I hope the band of Elitist Academicians who took control of the US are under the same delusion you and the author of that article are.

Having one radical group in complete control is just plain wrong and dangerous.

To even suggest that this man could possibly stop this insane Health Care Bill DID matter. 16% of the GNP based on a Partisan vote! Based on bribes to Senators and the Unions!

We all want better Health Care, but the sensible people want it approached in a methodical manner and with all sides having input.

If the House passes the Senate Bill without changes, watch their careers end. The DNC Spin no longer matters to people with half a brain. Neither does the RNC Spin.

By the way, the polls say the number one issue today in this election was, you guessed it, Health Care. Perhaps that Reporter should change professions These bought and sold media personalities are becoming meaningless, thank God.

sorry

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While I am hopeful that this is the beginning of a loud and clear message about how people feel about where America is headed. While I do not believe it will slow the Obama push towards socialism and a Maoist fascist corrupt and criminal state, it will set the stage for many other struggles which Americans face.

Win or not, Nancy Pelosi stated she didn't care or that it didn't matter because she was going to push the health care bill regardless of who won the race. She clearly and loudly stated that she does not listen nor cares to listen to the voice and will of the people she represents. She is a liar, intent on doing what is good for the socialist Democrats in charge.

They could care less about the Constitution or any infringement on our Bill of Rights and it shows in everything they do to push their evil agenda forward.

Now we must cautiously move towards the 2010 elections because anyone who thinks this loss is going to stall Obama is fooling themselves. While the Republicans are licking their teeth and salivating about their future rise to power and glory, we should realize that Republicans are just the opposite side of the same evil coin. Different tactics but the same agenda. Different faces and different lies. The only way America can begin regaining our worth is to begin demanding and end to corruption. Winning the war on corruption would recover billions in stolen dollars that disappear yearly. without ethical or moral elected officials it will never end. The corruption, greed, murder and complete accountability for their evil crimes must come to an end.

Thank God!

Health Care is on it's way out.
That was scary.

Geesh... A win in Mass. and all of a sudden it's a Paradigm change. D.C. is D.C. and politicians are still politicians. Left/Right, Dem./Rep. we've seen countless examples of what that gets us. Why [all of a sudden] the rally to "party" affiliation?

Interesting... Obama, barely in for a year, and it looks like the honey moon is over.

Just maybe the People are begining to realize they got lied to, from a very good politic. More people should have studied this guys ideaology.

Not to mention their is NOTHING universal about this radical health care bill this guy is trying to shake on the people. Its not universal it is law, either you have healthcare or goto jail or get fined or whatever.

If you wanted to get better deals for the people open the state border lines, ahem but thats another thing.

Cap and trade is just more taxes and one of the most insane idea's I have ever heard to "SAVE THE PLANET". A wolf dressed as a sheep, is still a wolf.

Glad to see this star wars senate trying to take over the empire deal, maybe about at its end, leaving these guys reputations and party in shambles for many decades..

Yes if a republican senator, getting ellected in mass replacing a Kennedy, is not a BIG suprise in politics, well I just don't know what is anymore, if I was a dem, I would be very concerned. Specially right before an election..



[edit on 19-1-2010 by Bicent76]

After both Bill Clinton & Barry Obama stumping for Coakley... I really don't know how to express the monumental slap in the face the voters unleashed upon them.

Let's also not lose track of the absolute fact that it doesn't matter the party any more. And the fact that Brown IS a party member leaves a LOT of burden on him to prove that he is truly for the people.

The era of partisan politics is, thankfully, near its end.

[edit on 19-1-2010 by Atlantican]

reply to post by centurion1211


This image will be in the democrats minds all year long.



Clearly, the American people do NOT want this 2,000+ page monster
passed. Maybe we should NOT walk the plank for Team Obama?
Do we really want to get "coakleyed" this November?



[edit on 19-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]

[edit on 19-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]

Scott Brown being elected is one giant leap forward for the citizens of this

country and one giant step backwards for the Democratic Party. ^Y^

I wonder what the total voter % turnout was? I think how many people got off their butts and went out and voted tells us a lot more about how things may go with coming elections and getting crazy train off the rails.

Originally posted by amari
Scott Brown being elected is one giant leap forward for the citizens of this

country and one giant step backwards for the Democratic Party. ^Y^

That was a great election! Lets have another one!
How many more democrat concession speeches will we hear November 2010?
20....30.....40.....???

I think this may actually be good to wake up some progressives that we have been cheated and let down. The Democrats proved to me personally they are as useless as the republicans.

I find it interesting that people are cheering Browns win? I mean really? Another GOP senator added to the Dem-GOP power play in Washington! Wow! Your voices will certainly be heard now!

I agree with previous members that this was a call out against the current healthcare bill. Its a Lieberman Baucus bill and you know what? The Republicans will be no different. The party of "no" and "corporate tax cuts" wins over the party of "disorganisation". DO the people win??

reply to post by Eurisko2012


as long as its enough to stop some of these radical idea's from going into law, I don't care. This health care bill needs to be debated, and each page need to be gone over and discussed, before it is voted upon..

Its radical and insane to try to pass a health care reform of this magnitude in just a few months.

We need a balance in power to prevent such madness from occuring, even if it is illusionary. I would be saying the same thing if this was vice versa, I just have never seen a radical right winged republican in office trying to force us all into church each sunday or whatever either, or try to sell us tickets to heaven or what have you to help save the World or whatever.

This man has an amazing track record and will surely be vetted for vice president should he choose not to run for Pres.

Honestly, I think he could easily become Pres. I mean, come on... Look at the last 2 buffoons. Anything is possible in the great land!!!!!!

I'll be damned - they voted for the guy who didn't promise entitlements. Maybe this democracy thing can work ...

Hate to speak ill of the dead, but does this mean people in Mass were already sick and tired of Teddy?

Can this somehow be considered a modern day Tea Party?