HUGE NEWS: BROWN WINS! Coakley calls Brown to Concede Election in Massachusetts

Ahh the mighty have fallen That seat has been Dem. since before I was born! Let's see how many more dems will not seek re-election now!

She is conceding right now.

The voter base was 51% Independent. This is a clear message to Obama and the Congress that what they are doing is unacceptable.

The Republicans also need to understand that the Independent vote is now the majority nationwide. For Coakley to loose as a Democrat in a State that always votes Democrat has a lot of meaning.

Thank God it was a clear win with nothing to contest. Now we see if the DNC is dumb enough to delay Browns taking office.

Maybe, just maybe we will now get a new Health Care Bill without the favors for Obamas supporters and the bribes for votes. Anytime a Party, any Party has to bribe its own members to vote yes to something, you can be sure it is horrible legislation.

The bribes to Senators and the bribes to the Unions caused this. They went to far this time. They stomped all over the little guy and small businesses and rewarded the crooks. Us little guys outnumber them in a huge way and the Independent vote is the only way to win now.

They have spent too much time on this healthcare to stop now. They will keep pushing.

My biggest surprise about healthcare was why they tried to pass it when the economy was stumbling so fast?

Just imagine how many REAL jobs they might have helped to create if they had spent all that healthcare time on the economy.

IMO, if they had taken care of the economy, they could have passed any healthcare plan they wanted.

Please,this changes nothing both parties are controlled by the same people behind the scenes this special election was nothing.

A lot of promises have been made by the Democrats in the last 6 years, not just by Obama, and they've all turned out to be bull! How many of those guys made ending the wars a key position in their campaigns and then voted to continue funding the wars anyway? Did they think nobody would notice? Speaking of noticing, how many people have been struck by the fact that the Health Care Reform that Obama promised in his campaign, the one with a robust public option, is not the plan that is currently being considered by the House and Senate? My bet is that most of the folks in MA really despise Mr. Brown's politics but, why turn out to vote for a Democrat when their policies always seem to line up with the Republicans anyway?? If you're opposed to the lying and thieving Republicans you have nowhere to turn, since the lying, thieving Democrats seem to honestly belong to the same Uber-Party. I wish I could believe that this victory would scuttle the abomination that is the Health Care Reform Bill, but, as I've already explained elsewhere, the health insurance industry needs this bill to pass and so I'm sure that it will become law and this odious cartel of jackels and vultures will be delivered a pipeline into our wallets, courtesy of the Republicrats; and the One Party system of Tyranny.

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My biggest surprise about healthcare was why they tried to pass it when the economy was stumbling so fast? Just imagine how many REAL jobs they might have helped to create if they had spent all that healthcare time on the economy. IMO, if they had taken care of the economy, they could have passed any healthcare plan they wanted.

Absolutely. People need jobs NOW. They don't need a rushed healthcare bill that doesn't even go into effect for 3 years!

If Obama had gotten people back to work..he could have easily passed this. He didn't...and know his Presidency will be a complete failure. This administration is a disaster. 3 more years jam.

Now all we need is California to go bankrupt before november so that scum Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer and Waxman are fired.

Especially Pelosi and Waxman (cap and trade)...

:facepalm:

Jesus on a stick, people. The race wasn't centered on the national health insurance plan issue.

Steve Pearlstein explains adequately: www.washingtonpost.com...

A major message to Obama. If I were him, I'd make the call to Reid to kill the healthcare bill. It's not what Independents want, it's not what Progressives want, and it's certainly not what Republicans and Conservatives want. This bill is only good for Lieberman, Baucus, and the other 4 or 5 Blue Dogs that shredded the legislation into an insurance hand out.

And David, I don't believe they can use Reconciliation to pass healthcare. Reconciliation can only be used on a certain number of legislative issues, and I believe Reid took it off the table earlier on in 2009 when it seemed like they could keep everything together and get it through via a super majority.

So what does this mean for American government now? I wonder if there will be any major legislation passed for the rest of Obama's term, or if we'll continue with the status quo.

Unfortunately, I think we'll just continue with the corporate status quo, which is exactly what corporate America wants.

Edit for Romantic Rights:

To say healthcare had no effect on the election is just as wrong as saying it was the reason for Brown's win. While I agree with the article that the voter lash out does have a lot to do with the crappy economy, the bitter partisan battle over healthcare has left many people soured over the Democrats' inability to legislatively move anything.

I have a feeling the atmosphere in Washington is about to get quite a bit more heated.



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Originally posted by Romantic Rights
:facepalm:

Jesus on a stick, people. The race wasn't centered on the national health insurance plan issue.

Steve Pearlstein explains adequately: www.washingtonpost.com...

Oh yes it was - Barry made it so when he started stumping for coaxley.

It was the only way for people to speak out about healthcare at this time - they did it in a special election - just wait until the REAL elections roll around.

And please, don't put Jesus on a stick - he was already on 2 sticks and we all know how THAT turned out.

Dorian Soran
The Good Doctor

Originally posted by Dorian Soran
Oh yes it was - Barry made it so when he started stumping for coaxley.

It was the only way for people to speak out about healthcare at this time - they did it in a special election - just wait until the REAL elections roll around.

And please, don't put Jesus on a stick - he was already on 2 sticks and we all know how THAT turned out.

Dorian Soran
The Good Doctor

Sweet Jesus on two sticks; no, it wasn't. Obama campaigning for Coakley had nothing to do with national healthcare reform. Nice try, though.

Dont get me wrong here, I'm happy MA can widen its tunnel vision at least enough to see the other head of the beast but is a 50/50 split really a referrendum on anything? Is it really the "people" being heard when for every person who voted for another person voted against?

These 50/50 elections make it seem like we're either on the verge of civil war or like we really have no real options to choose from.


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Unfortunately, I think we'll just continue with the corporate status quo, which is exactly what corporate America wants.

This is what I don't understand:

Health insurance companies and big pharma were giving big contributions to Coakley's campaign...which to me signifies that they were going to get huge handouts or they wouldn't support her as she was the 60th vote.

So what is it? The health insurance industry against the rest of the corporations? What you are stating makes this the only viable plausible answer...IMO...and that..in essence...means the average person has no representation.

Originally posted by jam321
They have spent too much time on this healthcare to stop now. They will keep pushing.

My biggest surprise about healthcare was why they tried to pass it when the economy was stumbling so fast?

Just imagine how many REAL jobs they might have helped to create if they had spent all that healthcare time on the economy.

IMO, if they had taken care of the economy, they could have passed any health care plan they wanted.

My what an odd thing for a 'conservative' to say!

As much as you all want to think that we think that Obama is some sort of god (although I see him being called the antichrist all the time by the well-grounded, lol), what else could he do? He's not a miracle worker, and he has backed things up from the abyss. If we were honest, we'd say that Obama has done the best he can on the economy (without revolutionizing the way things work, which would be called socialism by simple minds that don't understand that the real threat is corporatism).

There isn't going to be real change until progressives and libertarians come together to form a real populist movement. I'd say the true tea-partiers (not the ass backwards ignorant teabaggers), and the educated progressive movement share much.

The problem is, is that both sides see the future as very different once the 2 party system is overthrown. Is there some sort of name for a combination of socialism w/ libertarianism that hates corporatism? If so, sign me up....

Best,
Skunknuts

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They hear you but really dont care.Check this out.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi added, "Whatever happens in Massachusetts, we will have quality, affordable health care for all Americans, and it will be soon."
Several Democratic congressional sources tell CNN that having the House approve the Senate bill is probably the best of a series of bad options to pass health care reform in the event of a Brown victory.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters he remains "hopeful" that Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic nominee, will defeat Brown.
But if she does not, passing the Senate version would be "clearly better than nothing," he said.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Avenginggecko

 

Unfortunately, I think we'll just continue with the corporate status quo, which is exactly what corporate America wants.

This is what I don't understand:

Health insurance companies and big pharma were giving big contributions to Coakley's campaign...which to me signifies that they were going to get huge handouts or they wouldn't support her as she was the 60th vote.

So what is it? The health insurance industry against the rest of the corporations? What you are stating makes this the only viable plausible answer...IMO...and that..in essence...means the average person has no representation.

They were working both sides. They have more than enough money to do so. They spent money watering down the bill and preventing competition by killing the popular public option. They spent money trying to kill the bill (through front groups like the chamber of commerce). Either way, they win via increased profits.

They don't like uncertainty, and the market had factored in something similar to the senate version being enacted. Now, the dems. could grow a pair and push through a bill w/ teeth, or nothing cold get passed....

reply to post by skunknuts

There isn't going to be real change until progressives and libertarians come together to form a real populist movement. I'd say the true tea-partiers (not the ass backwards ignorant teabaggers), and the educated progressive movement share much.

They do! And that's why I keep stating that Republicans will win big in 2010 because these two groups will not "combine" until after Republicans gain seats.

Republicans can no longer be the party of NO and sit on the sidelines. Unfortunately the only thing they bring to the table are tax cuts, corporate tax cuts...which will do nothing to curb the deficit and nothing to help the average person in this country.

I heard a "progressive" talk show host...for the time ever....state that a "Revolution" is coming. Yes, we've heard it from Glen Beck a thousand times...but never have I heard it from a real progressive, and he's not a progressive as Glen Beck paints them out to be.

Everyone wants the fraudulent activity to stop with the banks, they want corruption out, they want jobs back in this country, they want the Federal Reserve and Government to be transparent, they want big money out of Washington, they want accountability in government.

We CAN come together on this. I think we will. It's just not time yet. In 2011 it will really begin...if the economy holds up. If not...it could be sooner. But it will happen.

I just think Liberals needed to get burned...just as Conservatives did with Bush.

It's becoming blatantly obvious who is running our country and it's definitely not us.


Edit to add:

When the discrepancy between the richest and poorest becomes to great...unrest happens and a populist movement among the people always begins. It's always happened in this country. We cannot continue on this road of corruption and the destruction of the middle class. It is in ALL of our best interests for it to change.



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reply to post by skunknuts

As much as you all want to think that we think that Obama is some sort of god (although I see him being called the antichrist all the time by the well-grounded, lol), what else could he do?

Not much. He is told what to say, he makes decisions based on options given to him, he counts on his advisers, his schedule is basically pre arranged.

If we were honest, we'd say that Obama has done the best he can on the economy

Have to agree. IMO, President has to wait on Congress in order to have economic success. Unfortunately, this dem led Congress has not helped Obama as much as they should have.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by johnny2127

 

The American people have spoken.
Senator Scott Brown will be driving to Washington D.C.
Are the democrats in Washington D.C. listening to the
American people?

The people have spoken, but it's already obvious that obama and the rest of his liberal cronies in Washington ARE NOT LISTENING. They are already blaming the democrat candidate for the loss instead of looking in the mirror.

Even Bill Clinton was smart enough to re-evaluate his positions when Republicans took control of congress in mid-term elections during his administration. But not these dems. Look for them to try and scheme to get their pet projects passed IN SPITE OF THEIR CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEM.

I am listening to Browns acceptance speech and .......This guy is good!

Edit;Real Good!!

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