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What secrets are held inside the Vatican?

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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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The Vatican is hiding passages of scripture that would prove that the catholic religion is wrong.

Not the whole of christianity however, just to make that clear.

Simple and that really is all they are hiding that would mean a major change in the world. Everything else is nothing but a set of clever diversions.

The passages they have would clear a lot of things up in christianity and for others regarding God but it would destroy catholicism.

If you ever want to find out where to start, look into the italian freemasons (p2 lodge). They are no longer connected to proper freemasonry.
Mafia, italian freemasons and the vatican are all connected to this cover up.

Just watch the back of your head as this is an actual conspiracy that could get you in harms way, if your actually going to follow it up in person.

This is something that you will never get to see unless you can get inside the vaults as it is in the vaults but I was told this from someone I trust, that was passed onto them by previous generations that were trusted.

It is a secret after all.

Take it or leave it.

All a man really has is his word after all is it not?



[edit on 20-1-2010 by XXXN3O]




posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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Besides the Vatican archives that are in the vaults in the sub basement, and th stack of money the high priests and cardinals swim in. They probably have gold bars amohst other jewels. I personally believe that the real treasures and secrets the Vatican hold is not held in the Vatican.

There is a bridge that goes from the Vatican to castel San Angelo (the star fortress). I think the ark of the covenant alng with the ten commandments are held there.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Didn't Dan Brown answer this question already ?

The Vatican holds the "ultimate secret" (i.e. Jesus of Nazareth died of old age, not on a cross and had kids.)
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NOTE: This is only the "ultimate secret" if you're a Christian or Muslim...the other 3.5 billion humans on this planet probably couldn't care less about the Vatican or whether Jesus ever got married, etc...



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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everything that supports the "pope" in his position; and everything that "refutes" anything opposite his position.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by XXXN3O
The Vatican is hiding passages of scripture that would prove that the catholic religion is wrong.

This is something that you will never get to see unless you can get inside the vaults as it is in the vaults but I was told this from someone I trust, that was passed onto them by previous generations that were trusted.

[edit on 20-1-2010 by XXXN3O]


Oh, you heard this from someone who heard it from other people.

Gotcha. Can't argue with that.

Eric



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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I've been to the Vatican three times. It is awesome. The amount of art is overwhelming and they only display just over 15% of what they have. When you do a tour and you walk outside into Saint Marks Square you just shake your head with the amount of stuff in the Vatican. Whole rooms with nothing but busts, many from Berini, whole rooms with nothing but ancient maps, it goes on and one.

They have a massive amount of archelogical items of significance. Part of Cleopatra's barge is one example. The Vatican also contains the largest collection of ancient texts and books in the world.

Its an amazing place and well worth a visit.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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The vatican is corrupt. As you say, they have untold riches.

Please, could someone who believes in the Pope and who is a true Roman Catholic, explain to me why, when the vatican is full of amazing wealth and amazingly wealthy men, and they profess to be religious - why are they letting their follower die of starvation? And, come to that, other people who are not their followers?

Now, what I understand about the Virgin Mary is that She is a gentle and caring entity.

And what I understand about Jesus is that He is a gentle and caring entity.

They would not amass riches and leave people starving.

So, please explain what is so amazing about the pope and all those other old men lurking in the vatican.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by learningtofly
reply to post by dolphinfan
 


The vatican is corrupt. As you say, they have untold riches.

Please, could someone who believes in the Pope and who is a true Roman Catholic, explain to me why, when the vatican is full of amazing wealth and amazingly wealthy men, and they profess to be religious - why are they letting their follower die of starvation? And, come to that, other people who are not their followers?

Now, what I understand about the Virgin Mary is that She is a gentle and caring entity.

And what I understand about Jesus is that He is a gentle and caring entity.

They would not amass riches and leave people starving.

So, please explain what is so amazing about the pope and all those other old men lurking in the vatican.



To answer your question you need to understand that the Roman Catholic church is the richest business on the planet.

Hell, at my local church they've taken to passing the contribution tray around 5 times in one mass!

Jesus rode on a donkey, today they've swapped that out for Rolls Royces.

polychronopolis talks the truth. The Jesus that died on the cross was not the same Jesus that was born to the Virgin Mary.



John 8:32

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:00 AM
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The truth will set us free, that is true.

The fact that all religions are corrupt - that is also true.

And they will prevent us from seeing the truth.

All I have to say to people is this:

Believe in yourself and the power of your mind.

Do not believe anyone in authority (except, if you are at school, most of your teachers are OK).

Do not blindly accept what your parents, or other people, tell you about religion - search for yourself.

Always follow the rules of Jesus and you cannot go wrong. Even if you do not believe in Jesus, be kind to people, be kind to yourself, forgive, love and be happy.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by learningtofly
reply to post by Psychoses
 


Do not believe anyone in authority (except, if you are at school, most of your teachers are OK).


I'll give you a tip. That is the sole purpose of education in today's society.

Teach the children to be punctual and NEVER question authority.

You don't really think that kids go to school to learn anything else, do you?



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:15 AM
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Kids have no choice - I had to say that - I don't really believe it but I felt that I was undermining everything.

But now that you have said it, I have to agree - trust no-one.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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i hear they have an awesome recipe for manna pot pie



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by learningtofly
reply to post by Psychoses
 


Kids have no choice - I had to say that - I don't really believe it but I felt that I was undermining everything.

But now that you have said it, I have to agree - trust no-one.


I have to disagree with you on that point to a certain extent.

You will come across a small percentage of people in your life that you will be able to trust.

As far as not trusting anyone, don't look at the person (or organisation), look at the motives behind their actions.

Not all are evil.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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OK, what I should have said is "Trust no-one until you are sure of them."

Please read between the lines! (OK, you don't know where the lines are).



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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So that's what we really have to address.

I think we all agree that the Vatican is hiding secrets, so the question is what are their motives and what do they have to gain by it?



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:33 AM
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For all those blinkered people that toss out comments that "All religion is evil", "The religions of the world are to blame for all the worlds ills" - remember, the basis of nearly all the worlds religions have peace at their heart and profess a unity between people.

The issue is when mortal man in his unadvanced from corrupts this belief for either worldly gains or distorted theology. In the Catholic religion you have members of the monastic orders such as the Carthusian, Benedictine, etc that are the practitioner of the faith.

For those of the New Age persuasion, the beliefs that you practice are not much different from the Carthusian, with their dediction to meditation.

In short, do not attack the religion, attack those that corrupt them and those that fall them.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 05:26 AM
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I don't think there are a lot of secrets. A lot of the information can be found with extensive research.

Like I found the following info by googleing Vatican History.

The Vatican Obelisk is from originally from Egypt brought to the Vatican by Emperor Caligula. (Which is very strange)

The Vatican was supposedly built on "Saint Peter's grave" you know the guy who DENIED that he knew Jesus 3 times according to the Modern Bilble. (Does that make any sense???)



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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"The Vatican Obelisk is from originally from Egypt brought to the Vatican by Emperor Caligula. (Which is very strange)"

Exactly... What does this tell us??? Why would the catholic religion posess and egyptian monument?? There are actually 4 obelisk's altogether that were shpped from Thebes, Egypt

To the Egyptian's the obelisk was symbolized as the sun god RA ( another symbol of RA is the circle with the dot in the middle which i will get to later).. which means that they most likely prayed to this obelisk..

I believe that Leonardo Davinci was one of the architech's that had alot to do with the design and layout of Vatican city...and was "allegedly" involved in the Priory of Scion, a secret society involved deep within the catholic church

And why does Vatican city and the Christos( st peters square with the obelisk in the middle) align to the orion constellation and the 7 hills of rome align to the 7 star's of the plieades star cluster... Just like the 3 pyramids on giza platau align to the 3 stars on orions belt..maybe there are buried or unfinished pyamids that align just like Vartican city
Wayne Herschel is a genius who figured this out amogst other star maps he put together... Thehiddenrecords.com....


The catholic religion i believe has knowledge that was passed down from the ancient egyptians.. If you research the begining of every religion...Something or someone decended from the heavens gave knowlege and vanished...Now yes every religion had different name's and different scenario's...but the root of religions is the same..

What also is very striking to me is why did the "Freemason's" who were the achitech's and builder's of Washington D.C. Implement the same obelisk (not from egypt like the 4 in Vatican city) into the layout of the city. also on the freemason tracing board the 3rd degree one i believe on the altar where the book and compass and ruler is...there is a circle with a dot which is also the symbol for RA the sun god.... also if you look at the tracing board you will see 3 pillars that sort of align with the 3 star's overhead and one of the stars has a familiar cluster the 7 stars of the plieades...

Now bear with me here....... From my understanding in 2012 there will be a transition of Venus, basically a venus eclipse.. Where Venus will slide across the face of the sun and look just like the RA symbol a circle with a dot in it... Very weird that the egyptian and the Freemason's and the catholic would both use this symbol... The plieades seem's to be very important?? Maybe that is where the god's came from?? maybe they will return in 2012??? maybe it all is nothing but a big coincidence???

It's all in the eye's of the beholder..............



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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"The Vatican Obelisk is from originally from Egypt brought to the Vatican by Emperor Caligula. (Which is very strange)"

Exactly... What does this tell us??? Why would the catholic religion posess and egyptian monument?? There are actually 4 obelisk's altogether that were shpped from Thebes, Egypt

To the Egyptian's the obelisk was symbolized as the sun god RA ( another symbol of RA is the circle with the dot in the middle which i will get to later).. which means that they most likely prayed to this obelisk..

I believe that Leonardo Davinci was one of the architech's that had alot to do with the design and layout of Vatican city...and was "allegedly" involved in the Priory of Scion, a secret society involved deep within the catholic church

And why does Vatican city and the Christos( st peters square with the obelisk in the middle) align to the orion constellation and the 7 hills of rome align to the 7 star's of the plieades star cluster... Just like the 3 pyramids on giza platau align to the 3 stars on orions belt..maybe there are buried or unfinished pyamids that align just like Vartican city
Wayne Herschel is a genius who figured this out amogst other star maps he put together... Thehiddenrecords.com....


The catholic religion i believe has knowledge that was passed down from the ancient egyptians.. If you research the begining of every religion...Something or someone decended from the heavens gave knowlege and vanished...Now yes every religion had different name's and different scenario's...but the root of religions is the same..

What also is very striking to me is why did the "Freemason's" who were the achitech's and builder's of Washington D.C. Implement the same obelisk (not from egypt like the 4 in Vatican city) into the layout of the city. also on the freemason tracing board the 3rd degree one i believe on the altar where the book and compass and ruler is...there is a circle with a dot which is also the symbol for RA the sun god.... also if you look at the tracing board you will see 3 pillars that sort of align with the 3 star's overhead and one of the stars has a familiar cluster the 7 stars of the plieades...

Now bear with me here....... From my understanding in 2012 there will be a transition of Venus, basically a venus eclipse.. Where Venus will slide across the face of the sun and look just like the RA symbol a circle with a dot in it... Very weird that the egyptian and the Freemason's and the catholic would both use this symbol... The plieades seem's to be very important?? Maybe that is where the god's came from?? maybe they will return in 2012??? maybe it all is nothing but a big coincidence???

It's all in the eye's of the beholder..............



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by vaticant
someone doing a scan of the 212.77.0.0/19 Vatican Netblock (as reported by IPDeny.com) to deduce what web presence they may have. Oh well.



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