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Haiti (Deep Conspiracy)

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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:51 AM
reply to post by franspeakfree

Well as far as 40 percent of money getting to help those in need, wouldn’t you think that they have to bank alot of the donations for emergency purposes if say another Katrina were to happen?....... I mean come on, how would the Red Cross be able to help anyone in an emergency if they had not banked alot of it resources. Just my opinion.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:57 AM
Let's not forget their earnings off of the interest earned from all those donations.

If you need to donate anything - donate supplies

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:18 AM
I've worked for charitable organisations overseas and in the UK.
I think there is a common misperception that such agencies can't make a profit. Well they can but only in terms of making an excess to keep them solvent.
There also seems to be a belief that people working for such agencies should be completely altruistic and work for peanuts. I think the UK image of a charity for example is of the little woman volunteering in a charity shop. Such people do exist, but nowadays charities are big business - especially those operating worldwide. They bid for contracts, they have huge budgets. It has gone past the well meaning amateur. Quite simply they have to attract savvy people - like chief executives and senior managers - from the commercial sector.
Overseas there are 'career consultants' who do quite well out of it. Very often, they move from country to country. I have met 'education advisers' earning more than, say, a Director of Education in a large UK Council.
I'm neither being an apologist for agencies like the Red Cross or criticising them. Just saying how it is.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:20 AM

Originally posted by angelsrforever
reply to post by franspeakfree

Well as far as 40 percent of money getting to help those in need, wouldn’t you think that they have to bank alot of the donations for emergency purposes if say another Katrina were to happen?....... I mean come on, how would the Red Cross be able to help anyone in an emergency if they had not banked alot of it resources. Just my opinion.

I am sorry but come on think of the interest that is made on the alleged 60% that isn't given, also did you take a look at the link I provided 2.3mil a year for a non-profit charity WTF!!!!!!
Complete Greed Power and of course Corruption.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:04 PM

Originally posted by KH4D4F1
I have a big issue with the Red Cross, and have no trust for what they do at all. My grandmother was in the Red Cross during the early stages of WW2, and I do respect her for that, but I just can't stand behind and trust a company that will take donated blood and then turn and sell it to the hospitals that need it.

Americans need to remember, when they are talking about the Red Cross, they generally mean the American Red Cross. The rest of the world uses the International Red Cross, or one of it's branches.

There are many differences. For example, the International Red Cross does not allow the selling of donated blood.

During the early stages of WWII the American Red Cross was a real humanitarian organisation, striving to help those in need fast. Your grandmother, being part of that, was most likely a wonderful person, doing a wonderful job.

The corruption has come since.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 03:16 PM

Originally posted by yzzyUK
I see the links and understand what you are saying but.... if I were to set up a group of people to say run a charity for domestic abuse then I would want it's directors and members to have expertise or their fingers in such things as medicine, counselling, housing, law, police, childcare, marriage guidance....

It would be little or no use for them to be farmers, electricians and swimming instructors...

[edit on 19-1-2010 by yzzyUK]

I would not give a cent to these people they did this eartquake for purpose Sebelius told us to vaccinate now she looks like stup.. cow

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:02 PM
reply to post by Komodo

Thanks for the cool read although i have read this many times from different sources my research left off at: this experimant has never been duplicated on the level these articles suggest im not saying it cant be done but i dont beleive it has been done on the scale suggested as of yet.

To shake the earth with any frequency would be utterly amazing even though our planet is not large in the grand scale it is still HUGE and already has un imaginable fources acting on it internelly.

The future may hold amazing revelations or we might find this earthquake machine HAARP conceot was just a great fantasy for a new hollywood disaster flick.

My jury is still out
Be Well

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:43 PM
FINALLY! This post hit what I have been feeling and saying right on the money! The Red Cross and other questionable organizations have raised close to a billion dollars "for Haiti". The sad thing is that the Haitian people won't see anywhere close to what they brought in. These organizations are crooks and evil to the tenth power. That's why they vicariously through officially un-affiliated organizations like the BBB destroyed Mr. Wyclef Jean's heroic efforts to support his own nation and he was 100% legit. Everyone who knows his music knows that he has true passion for Haiti and has plenty of his own money. When the Red Cross found out how much money he was raising, they put a stop to it... stat. You talk about bold, that is about as bold and wicked as it gets. They couldn't care less about any of us.

But there are some organizations out there that will make a real difference for the people in Haiti. And they have no affiliation whatsoever with these powerful crooks. They are circulating by word of mouth only below the radar of the Red Crosses of the world to avoid persecution and ridicule. This is where all of us have put our dollars for this cause and many of us also just happen to be customers of theirs as well. What a great company.

If you want to help, but are unsure about who to partner with to support the cause, this company is my first and last choice for trusting that my dollars will go where they need to. I even had the opportunity to speak with the CEO personally a while back and I believe the man is genuine and a man of his word. That's rare these days. Take a look and spread the word. Here is the link: Real Haiti Disaster Relief Fund

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 06:14 PM
Since the Rothschilds are known to underwrite the Red Cross, I would have to agree with your opinion that this organization's mission statement is not to be interpreted as completely benign.

However, one may find this interesting:

They were not very happy with the report on "the Holocaust" in 2005. So much so, that the Rothschilds held it's release back for two years until the 'buzz' died away.

The Red Cross Report on the NAZI Death Camps declared that no more than 1.1 Million died in the Holocaust.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:50 PM
reply to post by Edrick

So, you are saying that the Red Cross is just a high class ACORN?

Sounds right to me.

Remember how they used 9/11 for a fund raiser and didn't really help the families until Bill O'Reilly got on their case?

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Edrick

I keep hearing Theories about how the Haiti Earthquake was *CAUSED* by some earthquake machine, or Bombs or whatever....

How much money will these multi-national corporations make off of the earthquake by supplying aid and rebuilding efforts?

Will Haiti grant the U.S. a military base as a thank you?

You know they are looking for a home for the Guantanamo detainees ...

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:20 PM
I've worked for companies that do charitable as well as political fundraising.

It's too bad this is a conspiracy forum. It's early impossible to discuss anything without some malign agenda being floated

Professional fundraisers often take a large percentage of the money they raise.

But they are well connected and know how to get large donations.

If, in the end, you receive $5 Million by giving them 50%, it's still more for your cause than $1 Million from people who take little or no fees.

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 02:38 AM
The actual way they are creating earthquakes can be found by googling Nicoli Tesla. They are creating the Earthquakes by HAARP.

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:31 AM
I am an ignorant man. There are some things I have a working knowledge of.
Earthquakes. In the case of a strike/slip fault, the energy vectors are primarily in the direction of the fault. While energy also radiates outward, perpendicular to the fault, those vectors are smaller than when we are dealing with a thrust fault. That is mainly because the earth in a strike-slip moves in opposite directions on each side of the fault. In a thrust fault scenario, like those that surround Seatle and Vancouver, the entire North American plate is moving towards Japan. The pacific plate is bent down under the continental margin.
The energy that is stored in that kind of pressure situation is far higher, and when the North American plate breaks free it projects its energy directly at Japan (perpendicular to the fault) . The tsunami danger is profound, let alone the earthquake energy itself can be 10-100 times greater than in Haiti. Especially since the fault causes the north american plate to jump towards Japan, it creates a wave.

In the case of the Tsunami disaster, the fault was a different kind than a thrust fault, in that case, it is estimated that the ocean floor on the west side of the fault dropped 4 feet. If you do the math the giga tons of water displacing over a long strike formed the wave.

The Haitan Quake was a strike-slip. Far less likely to cause a tsunami.
Most earthquakes happen deep in the earth and radiate from that point.
The Hatian quake was 5km below the surface as opposed to 100km. So like ripples on the pond the energy didn't have an opportunity to dissipate. That was why it was so distructive to surface structures. Energy falls off at one over the cube of the distance. So if it had been 10km down even the damage would be far less.

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:35 AM
I find the dates of the two quakes interesting 01 12/2010 and 01 20/2010, so I kind of see them as mass sacrifices to their grotesque grand druid crapola, casting spells or breaking seals in blood. Probably letting some more draco demons in. I do believe this was cabal orchestrated, probably done to further their global plans and for the one I listed.

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:22 AM
While I don't have any actual proof, something about this whole thing just seems to be, well... in the best interests of those who do not truly care about helping the citizens of Haiti. I first became suspicious when supplies took so long... much longer than one would expect to reach the victims. Haiti has been a poor nation for as far back as I'm aware of... and the U.S. seems to be right there in the fact of disasters around the world, taking charge, and as I heard one guy on the news today - I think he was from the red cross "floating hospital" say that they were given no timeline, they are to stay as long as they are needed..

That sounded awfully familiar from what I was hearing about the U.S. having a presence in Indonesia after the Tsunami hit there Dec. 26 couple years ago...

And American Samoa.. same thing with those 3 "humanitarian efforts" that come to mind... supplies were slow to arrive.. just slow enough to considerably weaken an already weak population. I don't claim to know what exactly is the hidden agenda of the U.S. however, I do believe that there is one and that it is anything but good...

Each time something like this happens, I become more and more wary of what is really going on...... maybe just me, but is how I feel...

Thanks for listening....

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 07:52 AM

Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst

Originally posted by QtheQ
The name of the secret society, the Rosicrucians translates into English as the Rose Cross or Rosy Cross. It seems like a small step to go from the Rosy Cross to the Red Cross. I'm not sure if there is a connection between the Rosicrucians and the Red Cross organization but the similarity in names really makes me wonder.


Of all the crap that is going on and is NOT GOOD in this world -- do we really have to look under the covers like this?

Sure, that's where 'They' hide so many of their secrets. Edrick wrote an excellent post showing the amazing interconnectedness between the Red Cross and corporate profit interests. Unfortunately these sorts of connections between the rich elites, not just specifically with regard the Red Cross, but in general, has been noted and written about by other authors for years. Ferdinand Lundberg nearly 80 years ago, wrote about these sorts of connections, and indicated that the apparent collusion's had already been going on for decades before then. Usually, when these connections are noted by authors, the assumption is made that the relationships between the elites are made purely out of a mutual greed interest for money and power. I wonder however as is human nature when base selfishness is a motive for actions then relationships with other selfish interests for mutual benefit often do not last very long because inevitably at least one of the parties thinks they can 'pull a fast one' and attempt to scam the other selfish party. I think, therefore, the only way to maintain the perennial cohesion between all these elite interests is for those parties to have a perceived sense of a grand purpose. Could this grand purpose be a shared secret society religion hidden from the general public?

The problem is the only way for members of the general public like myself is to gather circumstantial evidence such as similarities in names, numbers and symbols between publicly viewable logos, buildings, landscaping, architecture and the known names, numerology and symbols of various secret societies. I suppose one could try to infiltrate one of those secret societies like Tom Cruise's character in the move 'Eyes Wide Shut' but I think there would be some risks in doing so that I'm not willing to take. Besides, "looking under the covers" can not only be fruitful enterprise in learning 'their' secrets, it can be kind of fun putting the pieces together like a detective in a Dan Brown novel (but hopefully without the risks).

But after having looked around and seen so many coincidences between what is visible to the general public and what is known about secret societies, for anyone to dismiss as impossible any secret society connection such as could possibly be occurring between the Rosicrucians and the Red Cross, has their eyes wide shut indeed.

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 11:43 AM
i don't think it was a man made earthquake... i mean i think the worlds entering a period of drastic climate changes and geological upheavels. but i wouldn't be suprised if their was some shady business involved within the red cross. Just like you see all those commericals for starving children where 15 cents a day can help. what the hell are they eating for 15 cents a day

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 12:16 PM

The Rockefeller's Red Cross

I had read while researching the Business Plot of 1933 as well as the AIDs virus and the relationship between the Rockefellers and the American Red Cross(ARC) as well as the plans for population control today.

For starters, According to the structure of Freemasonry, the "Order of the Red Cross", stands third in the top echelon of power , just behind the Sovereign Military Order of Malta and the Order of the Knights Templar.
Interesting because we know the symbols of the Knights of Malta and the Templar Knights, both used crosses , often times red.

But back to the American Red Cross (ARC).

The Rockefellers became involved with eugenics research AND the Blood Banking Industry in the early 20th century after their takeover of the ARC.

The takeover of the ARC, and subsequently the entire Blood industry, was apparently required to fulfill a far more sinister, political objective, which was eugenics management for a racially purified planet.
This also seques into the conspirators of the Business Plot of 1933 and their ties to the Nazis and their research on eugenics.
Remember Dr. Mengele's experiments on concentration camp prisoners ?

The Nazis who escaped to South America( Mengele included) were provided new identities and passports by the Red Cross. For the directors of the Red Cross were the same powers whom had coordinated the business dealings between the Nazis, I.G. Farben, the CIA and Rockefeller Standard Oil Company.
If you don't recall, Standard Oil was selling Octane boosters necessary for high altitude performance aircraft to the Nazis, and were caught red handed under trading with the enemy act.

Fast forward to the 1970's when the Laurence Rockefeller directed New York City Blood Bank, knowingly released thousands of pints of blood contaminated with the AIDS- virus.

Details the Rockefellers , and their foundations association with the population control industry. The Rockefeller directed Population Council of New York and it's affiliate the Negative Population Growth, Inc. of New Jersey.

They are interested in eradicating half of the planet's current , including America's civilian population as well.

Take a look at these population related websites:

The Population Council

Negative Population Growth

I wonder if the culling of the world population is intended to begin in the United States with the H1N1 vaccine and now in Haiti ?

Remember the Movie Freedom to Fascism ? The meeting Aaron Russo had had with the Rockefeller , and what he was told ?

It really does make you wonder ?

All in all , don't give your money or your Blood to these people, please try to donate to the families directly.

The Truth Shall Set You FREE

posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 02:44 PM
Hint about the Red Cross and the blood. Reference Nephilim and their return........also missing children and adults have a lot to do with it.

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