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Originally posted by quadricle
Dunno really what to make of this guy, I mean with the frequency of these visits isn't someone curious enough to follow him one night in the bush...??
This guy has been proven a fraud over and over again.
But no matter what evidence is brought forward against him there will always be those people that refuse to believe it is a hoax.
Prophecies? Please, this guy said back in the cold war 80's that there would be future wars. File that under things that make you say duh.
Amazing how most of the UFO's like to stick to trees...I guess the aliens turned off their high tech gadgets and decided to use trees as a kickstand. www.billymeier.com...
wobble wobble - wobble wobble. Who's on a string? Not this Meier UFO!
Along with Underground Video's statement is a photograph showing one of Billy Meiers alleged Pleiadian beamships taken in 1981.
After computer enhancement and careful scrutiny, it has been shown the Beamship is really a miniature model made out of an upside-down cake pan, disconnected copper hose fitting, a bracelet, carpet tacks and various other identifiable objects.
The Meier photograph of the beautiful Pleiadian alien, Semjase, turned out to be a photocopy of a model from a Sears Catalog.
Another one of Meier's photographs, where he allegedly traveled into the future aboard a Pleiadian Beamship to photograph the aftermath of a 9.0 earthquake in San Francisco showing the toppled Trans-America building, turned out to be a realistic looking painting from a geology magazine article about earthquakes.
On top of these damning examples, every single one of Billy Meier's photographs of Pleiadian ships have been shown to be of third, fourth and even fifth generation(photographs of photographs) This means the he likely airbrushed suspension wires and other signs of fraud. There is not one example of an original, first generation Billy Meier photograph.
To top it off, a reporter found a bunch of miniature models exactly matching many of the Pleiadian ships shown in his photos.
His ex-wife has come out to denounce him as a fraud as well.
The evidence is overwhelming that whole Billy Meier story is unquestionably, absolutely, completely and totally 100% BOGUS.
Originally posted by gzhpcu
Could you please explain in which context Billy Meier is to be placed? What I mean is: If you look at today's ufology landscape full of conspiracies, abductions, contactees, etc., are these supposed to be possibly valid, but totally separate issues from the Pleadians Billy Meier encountered? Roswell, greys, Philip Corso, Bob Lazar, Clifford Stone, Greer's disclosure witnesses? How are these looked upon by Billy Meier?
Is he the only one with valid contacts, or are these contacts running in parallel to his contats and of which he and his Pleadians have no knowledge? Belgian triangles? Betty Hill?
Originally posted by acidhead
how he pulled it off ? ok
the "ufo" is created using light materials and has a thin metal leg on its right hand side , this metal leg u cant see because the tree is in the way and the resolution of the camera isnt too hot when its zoomed in , if you look close you will see the left hand side of the craft rock slightly but the right hand side stays still
any videos of them moving around at a distance and then getting zoomed in on ?
Originally posted by quadricle
A few questions for Aurelius....
Is Meier still in contact with the ET's?
I was looking for some recent footage of Meier's case, does any exist? If not, why not?
Why was Meier (a simple man) chosen for this encounter and not someone with more credibility?
And finally what was up with the 19 assassination attempts on Meier's life? any documentation? (police reports, etc...)
related info I've come accross:
The smallest size of this craft is said to be 3.5 meters (just under 12 feet) in diameter. This should become readily apparent to you as Meier zooms across nearly a football field's length of meadow. You have to also consider how large 12 feet actually is and how heavy the object would be regardless of how "light" the material is and how any supporting structure would have to be placed quite high on the tree. The object is definitely metallic as can be seen in dozens of other photographs of this craft. Can you seriously say that this is easily done?
Meier lives in a small Swiss village where many of the people there are very observant when it comes to any activity. Meier has only been seen driving his moped in and out of town with his small camera bag, tripod, and maybe a lunch bag. Witnesses to Meier's travels have been interviewed in the past and there was never any talk of Meier transporting large objects (see Gary Kinder's book "Light Years")
To this day, there have been no Meier-assistants or helpers that have either come forward or have been discovered by the investigative teams or others (read Wendelles Stevens reports). No objects or models have been found on Meier's premises, aside from a couple of small models which the investigative team (Stevens, Elders and Welch) brought to Meier's place in order to test comparison shots.
Meier is a one-armed man and could not possibly rig up something as obviously involved and difficult as this. Where did he construct this? How did he get it to the contact sites? Where are the witnesses who say he constructed/transported such objects? These are the questions you need answered
Originally posted by zerotime
It is useless to debate Aurelius on this subject. He is not interested in facts. Aurelius is only here to spread the Billy Meier propaganda. Do a search on Aurelius's name here on ATS. This is the only thread he has ever contributed too on ATS.
hmmm. Draw your own conclusions.
Meiers UFO photos and videos have been debunked by serious UFO research groups all over the world – MUFON, NICAP, DR. Bruce Maccabee does a whole presentation on debunking Meier and yes even Meier ex-wife came out and told everyone that he was faking these events. brumac.8k.com...
Thank god for Billy Meier! He is the only person on Earth special enough to see and communicate with these aliens. /sarcasm off
HEY Aurelius! I noticed that you conveniently decided to pass over that Billy Meier laser gun photograph. What about that Billy Meier laser gun picture posted above? Come on Aurelius, tell us that is a real laser gun that Billy received from the aliens. I dare you!
Originally posted by AureliusI've seen the hole in the mid-90s when I visited Meier's place.
Originally posted by quadricle
Thanks for the answers Aurelius.
I was wondering since you had a chance to visit Meier location, did you see/hear anything while you were there? (I'm reffering to the actual beamships or ET's)
As for the recent pix mentioned that could be found on figu forum, do you have any you could post?
This story is just too cool.... wether it's fact or fiction it's still entertaining..
and the lack of concrete debunking proof makes it all the better....