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Just when you thought he had done his worst, Obama has a little surprise for you.

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posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by TheAdministrator
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On a positive note it will most likely cut back on crime just a lil bit.. It will be alot harder to obtain a weapon.. But who knows the local liquir store might start to get mugged with bamboo sticks for now on.


How is this going to cut back on crime?.... Criminals don't buy guns legally... There is a black market of firearms that comes mainly from China, Russia, and European nations, and that's where most criminals get their guns...

Criminals DO NO REGISTER THEIR GUNS EVER.... This is a bill to slowly take away the right of Americans to own and bear arms...

What's sickening is that most Liberals/Democrats/Progressives agree with this sort of unConstitutional bill because of their FLAWED idelogies....

Yes, it is a flawed ideology to claim that people shouldn't have firearms and that there should be bills restricting, or even banning Americans from owning firearms...

This sort of ideology goes against the Constitution...

What's worse is that most Liberals/Democrats/Progressives etc think since this doesn't affect them it will be ok.... But what these people don't realize is that once people are disarmed the government can do whatever it wants.. Not that it is doing what it should, but it will have no fear whatsoever from the people...and yes the government SHOULD FEAR the people.... This is something every forefathers of this nation agreed on.

The government is there for the people, not for the rich Socialist elites who want the total disarmament of citizens, and to control every aspect of ours lives...

We have also found out that the closest confidant to Obama, and in fact the entire Obama administration, including Obama's nominee to the Supreme court, all agree that the second Amendment does not give the right to Americans to own firearms which is completely the contrary to what that right says, and what the forefathers of this nation have staed in their biographies, letters and other documents appart from the Constitution...

They even want to infiltrate every "social internet network" and put in disinformation agents to discredit any, and every conspiracy theory, or discussion that is against any government policy...

I am sure you all know already we probably have more than a few of these Obamatrons infiltrated in the website...

We have some members who do not start their own threads, and all they do is try to dismiss every thread, and article that shows the truth about the Obama administration, and Obama the "messiah who is like God, and is above all including the country".....




posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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*** Okay, I am editing my post so as not to incite a flame war.

40 stars and flags for a HOAX. Nice.
Gun nuts claim to be so level headed yet are some of the most gullible people I have met.

The knee-jerk reaction of "OMG [insert democrat name here] is gonna take all of my guns away!" is getting really old.

Now, for those that are sooooo scared of these evil DEMOCRATS that are gonna take your guns away, let me ask you this:

What do you think of the Republican agenda of constant military expansion?

I ask, because the primary reason for the 2nd amendment is to ensure that the States have a right to a militia. Interpretation includes individuals being able to bear arms to protect from a tyrannical government.

The problem is the US government spends $607 BILLION on military per year. (41.5% of global military spending.)

That is $2,000 per man, woman and child in the USA.

The #2 country in military spending is China at $85 BILLION, or 5.8% of global spending.

China is spending $0.064 per Chinese man, woman and child.

So what are you more afraid of, a democrat taking your right to keep a glock in your nightstand or the 500lb bomb a republican bought with your money falling on your house?

Divide and conquer.... divide and conquer.



[edit on 19-1-2010 by nydsdan]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Solidus Green eye
I say: great law..

Look at the Netherlands, very low crime rates on death by gun shot... why? because we have exactly the same law.


BS, first of all someone from the Netherlands has NOTHING to say about our laws in the U.S., more so when our Constitution grants us a right to own and bear arms...

Second of all countries like Australia, and the U.K. had the oposite to your claims... banning firearms has INCREASED GUN CRIMES because despite people like you not understanding this CRIMINALS do not buy guns, or any firearm legally....



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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NOTE to any government "official" who's job it is to test the viability of EVER passing a law like this: It will NEVER happen and WILL result in the political suicide of ANY member of Congress who vote FOR it. Got it? Good... now go report your findings...



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by nydsdan
What do you think of the Republican agenda of constant military expansion?

I ask, because the primary reason for the 2nd amendment is to ensure that the States have a right to a militia. Interpretation includes individuals being able to bear arms to protect from a tyrannical government.

The problem is the US government spends $607 BILLION on military per year. (41.5% of global military spending.)

That is $2,000 per man, woman and child in the USA.

The #2 country in military spending is China at $85 BILLION, or 5.8% of global spending.

China is spending $0.064 per Chinese man, woman and child.

So what are you more afraid of, a democrat taking your right to keep a glock in your nightstand or the 500lb bomb a republican bought with your money falling on your house?

Divide and conquer.... divide and conquer.


You are correct. BUT the tiny detail that you forget is that there 310 MILLION of us. How many of them? AND, if they start dropping bombs on citizens homes, how many of them will still be with them? I'll take the safe bet and go with the citizens' right to bear arms.



[edit on 19/1/2010 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:20 PM
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"Gloom and doom" about H.R. 45 and SB 2099 have been circulating the 'net for years.

None of this is true. Neither of those bills ever made it out of committee, and never will. When I see the words "Blair Holt" I just stop reading.

Thomas.loc.gov and Opencongress.org are the only RELIABLE resources regarding current bills in the Senate and House of Representatives. Everything else is just fearmongering.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:27 PM
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OMG this is the kind of posting that just downgrades ATS.

You have a stark raving Glen Becker coming in here and posting parts of their own article that isn't even remotely true.

First, this doesn't even involve obama, this was a bill brought before Congress By Rep Bill Rush.

Read your own source. Snopes only concluded this as partly true.

It has been brought before Congress, and not expected to pass. According to your own source it doesn't even have a co sponsor.

And in no way does it subject anyone to a mental health or any kind of inspection, just a release of previous mental health records.


Gotta love the Fox style hype and alarmism.



Oh, and just don't post the false part of your own source.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by nydsdan
*** Okay, I am editing my post so as not to incite a flame war.

40 stars and flags for a HOAX. Nice.
Gun nuts claim to be so level headed yet are some of the most gullible people I have met.

The knee-jerk reaction of "OMG [insert democrat name here] is gonna take all of my guns away!" is getting really old.
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The only nuts, if you are an American, are Americans like you who obviously don't give a crap about the Constitution...

You claim this is a hoax, and the rest of the Obamatrons, probably like you, don't seem to understand for some reason, must be the lesser IQ than regular Americans, that since the start of this administration Obamatron officials have tried to make any, and every excuse to infringe in our Second Amendment right, among other rights...

You don't give a crap about the Constitution? that's your problem, keep watching your soap operas, and your survivor shows, and keep getting drunk, or high on MJ or some other drugs that Liberals/Democrats/Socialists etc want to make legal so that the rest of the nation become as dumb as they are meanwhile the Obamatron officials keep trying to take away the rights given to every American citizen, and legal resident by the U.S. Constitution...



[edit on 19-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:36 PM
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Right... like it is fearmongering that Obamatron officials claimed that Mexican drug cartel gangs are getting their guns from legal gun stores in the U.S.....


Like it is fearmongering that every Obamatron official is an advocate of giving away the U.S. sovereingty to the U.N., and advocates of gun control and to disarm every American citizen....



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Jeebuz cripes eating nachos... look at all these patriotic M'urkans losing their minds over a hoax. Did any of you actually read any of the links or even the other posts?

But I suppose taking things on faith is all they really know how to do now that I stop and think about it. Onward chris-junn soldiers, lol.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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And Angus the Obamatron makes his appearance like always... How much are the Obamatrons officials paying you to try to dismiss every thread that puts your messiah, and his administration in a bad light?....



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Angus123
 


And Angus the Obamatron makes his appearance like always... How much are the Obamatrons officials paying you to try to dismiss every thread that puts your messiah, and his administration in a bad light?....


I work pro-bono. That means for free.
Don't worry, they'll cover that when you get to the 7th grade.
Hey, I read an article today that said Obama is going to legislate mandatory castration for all white males. He was smoking coc aine and drinking virgin blood when the idea came to him.

You may want to call Fox with that hot tid-bit



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:45 PM
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What people don't get is that a lot of this is to be able to crack on criminals when they can't link them to a crime. No fingerprints or witnesses at the scene? Oh no. Oh but you do have an illegal and unregistered firearm. Why is that? Lets drag you in for questioning before you can skip town.

Remember, Capone wasn't busted for mafia activities, but for income tax evasion.

If you don't plan on illegally using your gun, then you don't have any worries.

Stricter regulation on sales of guns is more to keep gun sellers from "losing" guns. In other words, sell un identified weapons to gang members.

How do you think thugs get them?

You think every gun seller is a steller church going member?



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
OMG this is the kind of posting that just downgrades ATS.

You have a stark raving Glen Becker coming in here and posting parts of their own article that isn't even remotely true.

First, this doesn't even involve obama, this was a bill brought before Congress By Rep Bill Rush.
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It involves the entire Obama administration, and the mayority Democrat/Progressive House and Senate....

Every Obamatron official is an advocate of gun control, and to disarm all American citizens...

What don't you understand that this is STILL in Congress, and the fact that we have a mayority DEmocrat/Progressive House, and Senate, and we have a "Progressive" administration which are all advocates of gun control and makes it a real possibility for this bill being passed?....


Obviously none of the Obamatron nuts decided to read the source..yeah they CLAIM it has no possibility of passing...but that is a CLAIM meanwhile we have an administration of Democrats/"Progressives" that are advocates of gun control and a mayority Democrat/Progressive House and Senate....

This is NOT a hoax....

[edit on 19-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by nixie_nox
OMG this is the kind of posting that just downgrades ATS.

You have a stark raving Glen Becker coming in here and posting parts of their own article that isn't even remotely true.

First, this doesn't even involve obama, this was a bill brought before Congress By Rep Bill Rush.
..............


It involves the entire Obama administration, and the mayority Democrat/Progressive House and Senate....

Every Obamatron official is an advocate of gun control, and to disarm all American citizens...

What don't you understand that this is STILL in Congress, and the fact that we have a mayority DEmocrat/Progressive House, and Senate, and we have a "Progressive" administration which are all advocates of gun control and makes it a real possibility for this bill being passed?....


Obviously none of the Obamatron nuts decided to read the source..yeah they CLAIM it has no possibility of passing...but that is a CLAIM meanwhile we have an administration of Democrats/"Progressives" that are advocates of gun control and a mayority Democrat/Progressive House and Senate....

This is NOT a hoax....

[edit on 19-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]


Not every Dem is against guns like you are saying, again with spreading fear. This the exact reason its hard for me to get .45 ammo, bunch of nuts think everyone is out to take away their guns.

The article is fake. This has been shelved because if it somehow ever passed, all that voted for it would be kicked from office. It started from before Obama was elected. The NRA will tell you they aren't worried about this passing at all.

Obama really hasn't done anything to take away gun rights, Clinton did far more.

You should realize by now that a Kenyan born Muslim named Barry would never take away gun rights. Does that really sound like something the antichrist would push for?



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Angus123

I work pro-bono. That means for free.


Oh that is the reason why you are a liar, I mean a lawyer....



Originally posted by Angus123
Don't worry, they'll cover that when you get to the 7th grade.


Thanks for letting us know you got your job by only passing the 7th grade... Obviously it is the reason for your lower IQ.... Don't worry we understand it...


Originally posted by Angus123
Hey, I read an article today that said Obama is going to legislate mandatory castration for all white males. He was smoking coc aine and drinking virgin blood when the idea came to him.
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Good one... first obviously you haven't looked in a mirror lately...you must think you are black meanwhile I am actually Hispanic....


Oh boy... the Obamatrons surely love to spend their free time just trying to dismiss every article, fact, and evidence that shows their messiah "sort of like God" is destroying this nation more than any other president before him...


and hey at least Fox is better than Castro's News Network (CNN).... but we all know that "Liberals/Progressives/Democrats/Socialists" love to hear leftwing lies all the time....



[edit on 19-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by whoshotJR

Not every Dem is against guns like you are saying, again with spreading fear. This the exact reason its hard for me to get .45 ammo, bunch of nuts think everyone is out to take away their guns.


Ah...so you are going to tell us that the Obamatron officials are not gun control advocates?....and that most Liberals/Democrats/Progressives are not gun control advocates?.....
Obviously you haven't been paying attention to your party.....


Originally posted by whoshotJR
The article is fake. This has been shelved because if it somehow ever passed, all that voted for it would be kicked from office. It started from before Obama was elected. The NRA will tell you they aren't worried about this passing at all.


BS, it is not fake... The article itself says this is STILL in Congress....and you are going to tell us that unconstitutional laws haven't been passed and have caused for gun control advocates, and officials who have passed unConstitutional laws to lose their jobs?.... that explains why there are no gun control advocates in office, and no official has ever tried to pass unConstitutional laws.......


BTW, the Constitution CLEARLY states the only form of government that shall be guaranteed to every state is a Republican form of government...yet we have been having illegal Democrat, and now "Progressive" administrations and these officials haven't been fired from their jobs....


U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4

Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,.................

www.usconstitution.net...

Phew...surely this has prompted for Democrats/Progressives getting fired for introducing an illegal party/parties in the Republic....



Originally posted by whoshotJR
Obama really hasn't done anything to take away gun rights, Clinton did far more.


Sure... he just nominated most, if not all Democrats/Progressives that are advocates of gun control and to give up the U.S. sovereignty to the U.N....



Originally posted by whoshotJR
You should realize by now that a Kenyan born Muslim named Barry would never take away gun rights. Does that really sound like something the antichrist would push for?


And here i though that Obama was "the messiah, sort of like God and above all including the country" like Liberals/Democrats/Progressives have been claiming......


We even have had some Obamatron threads in which some Obamatron claims Obama is an "awakened being, he is part of the light and he is here to save us"....and several members voted for such threads, gave flags and responded agreeing with the Obamatron.... Humm, I wonder who is truly nuts.....





[edit on 19-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:17 PM
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You are so precious! So easily provoked! Who hurt you so deeply that you've become such an irrational basket case?

Hmmm... maybe a black, Muslim, Kenyan-born authority figure in your past?
Ummm... maybe he smeared you in bacon grease and called you a dirty little piggy?
Did he take away your Nerf dart guns?
Did he kick all your Barbie dolls in their tummies to make the innocent lil' Skippers inside them die?
Ooh! Ooh! Did he take away your lunch money so he could pay for somebody else's medical care?

You are HOURS of entertainment. Please don't EVER change!




posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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To be clear, I did not read all post. I remember this from 9 or 10 years ago. I did the fact check and found this:

The answer is no. This Internet rumor states that SB-2099 is legislation currently being considered by the Senate. The bill supposedly requires owners of firearms to list on their 1040 tax return all guns they own and then pay a $50 charge per firearm. There is no such legislation by this name in the 111th Congress.

the source is this:

LINK

Things are going sideways, but let's keep our heads.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:28 PM
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Don't you love it when certain members don't like some threads they immediately claim "it is fake" without actually making any research on it?... and then if that little tactic of theirs doesn't work they insult you, which of course derails the thread more, and then they play victim when they get responses in kind to theirs...

These members don't deserve even to be heard... all they do is try to save their messiah who is like God, and above all, including the country and who can do no harm....



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