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On the other hand they could have been taking the matter very seriously and we all know what happened shortly after to Bill Clinton!
Originally posted by Atlantican
I feel much of this technology is fed (by the shadowy NSA/Military) to the hungry fishes(LG,Samsung,Sony,Toshiba,Sharp, Hitachi, Magnavox) en mass. Hence the parallel development/release in seemingly fresh tech trends.
Maybe they grew up, and found out what was REALLY going on in the real world hippie.
Tesla, mind control, P.K. Dick and psychotronic weapons became my daily bread (not nourishing). I found myself courted by intel from both sides and given explosive information that few were capable of evaluating. Information I shared with almost no-one.
In the midst of all this Holly Maddux disappeared. I mourned for months and got deeper into matters that required more backup than I had.
The Rockefeller circle tried to recruit me directly, but public office was not of interest and I was too busy to give it even a second thought.
in 1990, with the the support of two former presidents of the exchange program, Jim Garrison (founder[clarification needed] and President of the U.S. Gorbachev Foundation) and Hickman — who devoted thirty years to improving relations between the U.S. and the Soviet Union — Gorbachev stepped down from one of the most-powerful leadership positions, and effectively dissolved the Soviet Union, ending the long reign of the Soviet communist party. Realizing that a global dialogue was essential to issues of world peace, Garrison helped establish The State of the World Forum, with Gorbachev as its convening chairman.
The fact remains that a bunch of apparently California New Age flakes into UFOs and psychic phenomena, including myself, had made their way into the highest levels of the American ruling class and the Soviet Union and today run the Gorbachev Foundation
Originally posted by Someone336
This is a little follow up to my previous post. Since I'm skeptical of A) the existence of extraterrestrial life monitoring or visiting us and B) the government's knowledge of extraterrestrial life monitoring or visiting us, I'm more interested in what people such as the Clinton's or the Rockefeller's believe.
For me it is more indicative of 6 Degrees of Separation and the Wonders of Investigoogling. All big time players cross paths at one time or another. Sometimes they even play on the same team for a spell.
One mustn't forget that back in the 60s ans 70s, when information was not a readily available, a lot of people were buying into New and fringe thinking. It seemed more real as no one was there activley countering it.
A true Golden Age of Cults. Even the high finance world high rollers were listening to the soothsayers, just a Scientology has found converts in Hollywood stars.
Maybe I'm totally wrong and there is some hidden alien presence and hyper technology being hidden away somewhere.
Originally posted by Someone336
Personally, I liked the more politically oriented version of the 1960s counterculture myself.
Originally posted by converge
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Surely if we were being visited the likes of rockerfeller would know about it?
Goes to show that those intricate all-powerful all-knowing secret cabal theories, although entertaining, are probably nothing more than that—entertaining and imaginative theories.
I'm sure that those paying attention and not falling for every tale grandiosely enacted and put forward by the Schneiders, the Coopers, the Lears and Greers of the world, have started to realize that the actual knowledge of the Government and Military regarding the UFO phenomenon is most likely not very extensive and elaborate, and their involvement with it many orders of magnitude removed from secret agreements and joint underground bases.
What these photos, objectively, show is Hillary Clinton meeting with a Laurence Rockefeller who was apparently very much interested in UFOs and peaked Hillary's interest enough for her to read a book about the implications of the discovery of extra-terrestrial life. I find the topic fascinating, so it's not that hard to conceive that other people would share this fascination with it as well.
This idea that powerful people and leaders must certainly know everything we believe and think exists or is real, is quite frankly, childish. I'm not going to deny that certain information is withheld from the public, or that conspiracies exist, because I don't—but the actual reality is, in all likelihood, less Hollywoodesque than what the con artists and disinformation agents, that plague the field, want you to believe.
While people are wasting their time trapped in this made up fantasy of wars between humans and aliens in underground bases in the desert; human-alien joint research & development; and looking for ET on Youtube because you're sure the next "good quality" video will prove it to the world!—the ones who have information to protect are doing that just fine, without the hassle of people they can easily dismiss as crackpots.
And the—sad to some, I'm sure—reality of it is that the information they are protecting is probably not a lot to start with, and that it certainly can't compete with the dramatic and fantastic scenarios put forward by people shouting "Disclosure! Disclosure!" who have taken over a field that deserves much better.
Those who desperately await disclosure certain that all would be revealed are the ones 'disclosure' would hurt the most—as the only thing to disclose is the ignorance of our political and military leaders of a phenomenon that escapes their understanding as it neither flat-out attacks and invades us, or publicly presents itself; but instead, while aware of us, apparently gives us the silent treatment.
How can that compete with the wonderful reality of "beautiful alien babies" portrayed by Steven Greer? Or the certainty of Stephen Bassett that the Government is covering up reverse-engineered alien technology?
Don't worry, my rant is over.
Let's go back now to the Pandora world of ufology made up by all the story tellers, disinformation artists and self-illuding crackpots—it's much more entertaining. It won't get us anywhere—but it's certainly entertaining and we're the 21st century civilization: we're all about entertainment.
Originally posted by mmiichael
With all due respect, I live in the real world that's right outside my window.
I used to do work for some high tech companies and got to meet a few high level software and system designers.
The really advanced people all know each other, it's not that big a community. The US military is of course the biggest single client for advanced system designs. Everyone near the top of their fields knows what is cutting edge and possible. That's how experts worldwide stay ahead.
None of this supposedly hidden super high tech or alien
retro-engineered stuff exists except in the imagination of people who unable to separate fact from fiction.
Sorry to burst bubbles.
[edit on 20-1-2010 by mmiichael]
Originally posted by ray31
I worked with high level individuals in the defense industry. Actually, if a company has a contract with the US military they or their employees are not supposed to disclose details about any classified high tech weaponry, especially on this forum. These high level software and system designers are not supposed to as well. You may not have been told or not have run into classified works beyond the conventional. Even if you knew, you would not tell us and be legally bound not to disclose that information. You're probably right, there may not be anything or much beyond what you know and the government knows and a lot of what is out there in ufoland is new age nostalgia and creative imagination.
Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Hillary Clinton’s ET book discovered?? What book? Where? When? I couldn't find hair nor hide of it anywhere. Can you post here the book cover at least?
You can't because there's no 'book'. Probably just some documents that Rocky passed on to the Clintons.
Why do we go berserk on such non issues? It would have been better if you had researched this a little more before hurrying to open a thread on this. Clutching at straws such as this, is a feeble attempt to produce evidence of a non existent UFO conspiracy at the highest levels. In other words, it holds no water.
[edit on 20-1-2010 by OrionHunterX]
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
... the Monica Lewinski scandal. Some people have theorised that event conveniently discredited Bill Clinton so he would not be a suitable leader to to make any kind of disclosure.