Our Police State - JETS fan arrested for cheering at the Chargers game.

reply to post by Berserker01


Are you telling you me that you think it was ok that this guy was cuffed and dragged out of the stands? Even after hearing the Charger fans that sat right next to him say that "he didn't do anything to deserve that"?

Wake up.

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reply to post by Rockstar1102


Read my post again.

In every game you will not see a visiting team fan sitting in the home teams section acting a fool.

I bet on football and that requires me to not be a fan of a paticular team.

reply to post by shasta9600


If he would have listened to the cops and walked out then he wouldn't have been dragged out.

I am wide awake thank you. Maybe you should take off your cop hating hat and see common sense.

Rules are rules. You break those rules and you suffer the consequences. You resist those consequences and it only makes life harder on yourself.

The fact is that he couldn't obey the rules at the stadium and now everyone saw what happened.

reply to post by Berserker01


Again, there is always a fan or two out of place in the area he is sitting. You cannot make such a broad accusation and expect people to believe your opinion.

The fact that you bet on sports games means nothing as well. Betting does not REQUIRE you to not have a favorite team. I bet all the time on various sports and I bleed my team's colors.

reply to post by Berserker01


Also, aside from disobeying the police, what infractions has this man committed that you can deduce from this video? You tell me what he did that warranted him getting kicked out of this game.

reply to post by Rockstar1102


Thats great for you. I perfer not to have a personal attachment to the sports I bet in. I have been to more OU Sooners games then any other team simply because I lived 15 minutes from the stadium growing up. Find me some examples from their games, thats as close to a favorite team as I get.

Even if you can find one or two examples that proves that part of my point wrong then like a great songwriter and singer once said 2 out of 3 aint bad.

reply to post by Rockstar1102


Like I mentioned before, a coach, ref or a number of any other people could have thought he posed a potential problem and had the cops escort him out.

Unlike the cops, they really don't need a reason to have you removed.

Him acting the way he was in the opposing team section could be a reason someone wouldn't want him there.

reply to post by Berserker01


www.the700level.com...

- There's an article about hundreds of Mets fans traveling to Philly and starting fights with Phillies fans....

Yanks/BoSox

- there's an article about the Yankee/BoSox rowdiness

Oh, and must I remind you of every single bcs game where some students get lumped in with opposing students?

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reply to post by Rockstar1102


So you give two examples of opposing fans getting into fights when they interact and you are wondering why this happened to someone who was acting a fool?

reply to post by Berserker01


Ohhhhhhh I see what you're getting at. You can go to a game, but if you're sitting in the opposing teams section, you're not allowed to cheer for your team. Let alone be a football fan about it (rowdy, loud and chanting).

You just seem like the type of person who watches sports for the betting sake and not for what it brings out in people. I may be VERY wrong, but your comments thus far have led me to believe so.

reply to post by Berserker01


See, now your just twisting things. You asked for examples of rowdy fans in opposing teams sections, so that's what I gave you. I never argued that if people are fighting they shouldn't be ejected...in fact I encourage people who fight at games to be tossed.

Don't take the evidence I provided and try to flip it around and change the point you asked me to make completely.

reply to post by Rockstar1102


The evidence you provided supported my reason he was ejected.

Does it have to come down to someone getting injured before someone is ejected? That leads to the owners and the city being sued.

If I was the owner I would have ejected the fan also. Why should the money I worked for go to make some idiot rich?

reply to post by Berserker01


What reason!? We don't even know WHY he got ejected at this point. It could have been a number of reasons! You don't know he was starting a fight, in fact you don't know ANYTHING about the situation further than anyone else on here does.

Stop making comments on this guy. For all you know, right before this, he helped 25 senior citizens cross a highway. You're judging this guy for chanting. How sad is that?

reply to post by Rockstar1102


Since you don't know the reason or care to entertain certain reasons for him being ejected I have to ask.

Why are you so upset about this then?

Why are you making it out as the cops being the bad guys?

reply to post by Berserker01


Now you're just starting to sound like a Scientologist or Mason. Where the questioning of one's government, authorities, etc., or soliciting any sort of confrontation otherwise, eludes to the fact that they are somehow "obligated to disrupt humanity". Whether it's by their own volition, or by some spiritual destiny they have no control over.

Scientologists like to use the, "What crimes have you committed? What motives do you have?" etc., plenty of videos for this. It's creepy.

Common Masons, usually the southern-folk, use roughly the same method, except they just cut a clear line down the middle and use the generic Us vs. Them holy crusader approach. I suppose that's why a ton of Masons are cops.

Why don't they separate the two sets of fans? Have a home end (like 90% of the stadium) and set aside 10% of the stadium as an away end for the fans of the opposition. That's what they do at all soccer stadiums.

And if you started chanting for the other team in the home end of a soccer stadium like the guy in the video did, the police would be the least of your worries trust me...

OK.

I've been supporting the "blues" in most of the other threads lately...

this is flat wrong! They were WAY out of line!

Unless they had REPEATEDLY asked him to calm down (I'd get a little tired of this myself) and he continued...yeah. nail him for nuisance.

this? Nah. out of line.

see? I ain't a blind follower!

edit:

Just saw that he was on the other side of the stadium with NON jets. That could easily be considered incitement.

They did good. You don't need a stadium brawl. People could easily get injured or killed.

At pubs here in Dallas, if its a big game like Chelsea ( ) and Man United ( ), they make you go to opposite sides of the pub. safety. Get caught doing this stuff and they put you on the other side IMMEDIATELY!



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reply to post by dariousg


You make a few good points, but your judgment is in question; when you admit to having Seahawk season tickets for over 10 years. You are a glutton for punishment.

An update to the story today.

New York Post - A rough go for Jet fan

It seems there was a little behind the scenes pull to get the cops there.

A rabid Jets fan ticked off the wrong person -- an off-duty San Diego cop -- by loudly cheering his team's playoff upset Sunday against the Chargers.
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Assistant Police Chief Bob Kanaski -- insisting "we don't arrest people for cheering for their teams" -- said Sgt. Jeff Sterling approached Carroll after the off-duty cop sent a text message reporting a drunk causing a disturbance.

Just a couple of points of my own...

POP (****ing off police) is not a crime in itself when no other crime has been commited. However, it seems that many officers view as a very serious offense that must be squashed.

Regardless of if they are right, wrong or indifferent - the cops have the power to make life very hard for anyone. Yes, later you can file a complant. However, he would likely be in less trouble if he'd just said, "Ok" and went with them.

I would so file a lawsuit . . .


Their asses would be mine.