Ron Paul: "We need to take out the CIA!"

reply to post by GoldenFleece


E. Howard Hunt , on his death bed, admitted that the CIA took out Kennedy.

George Bush Sr. , head of the CIA at the time, was photographed in Dallas that day.

Reference Jim Mars for good research on CIA involvement.

reply to post by seabisquit

You're absolutely right and Jim Marrs is the best. E. Howard Hunt's first son St. John happened to see a photo of the '3 Tramps' when they were briefly detained on Daeley Plaza's grassy knoll. St. John said he immediately recognized his father as one of the tramps. He also remembers his father being away "on a business trip to Dallas" the day Kennedy was assassinated and says his father was a real patriot who'd never implicate his own government unless he knew it was true.

Here's the excellent Rolling Stone article, which is a must-read for anyone interested in the JFK assassination:

The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt
He was the ultimate keeper of secrets, lurking in the shadows of American history. He toppled banana republics, planned the Bay of Pigs invasion and led the Watergate break-in. Now he would reveal what he'd always kept hidden: who killed JFK



[edit on 19-1-2010 by GoldenFleece]

I can dig it

EFF the CIA

my newest mantra

reply to post by keenmachine


Honestly, I believe that a new way of thinking is coming where people will take responsibility for themselves , work together for the betterment of the human condition overall and power will be shared . Ron Paul is a supporter of the old way .Where one man runs the show . People think money is the root of all evil I disagree it is power . Power will make any sober honest man a drunk .
Paul is somehow playing both sides of the fence and has been doing so for years carrying the same message . As for the media not carrying his message forward that is the truth they buried it or warped it to make him sound crazy . But he had the money to advertise his message all over national media and he never did , instead he sat back did nothing except collect more money bombs . His campaign was a farce . For him to remain a Republican and everything that is associated with a republican today is also another strike against him . He says he cant win as an independent . BS! So many people are tired of the left /right game but it all remains the same . Independence from it is the only way to go at this point if it is to end.

Originally posted by Hermitoutofhishole
Yes he pushed to audit the fed (which hasn't happened ) and I honestly believe he is an "emergency exit" for TPTB to keep doing what they have been doing for years and when the dollar finally collapses they will have someone there to pretend to pick up the pieces and retain power .

That's possible, I wouldn't put it past them. They're pretty crafty.

But it's good to see someone out there speaking the truth. At the moment, I like the guy. I hope he continues in the direction he's going.

If you dig into Ron Paul a little bit you will see that he is just your average politicians albeit with better ideas. His ideas while good never have any substance. He speaks, people cheer, and he cashes paycheck. As for the CIA taking him out if he became president, they wouldn't have to. As long as he has yelled his ideas, if he had to put a plan into action he would probably take himself out. I agree with most of his ideas and that is why he is a politician.

Interesting post S&F - Interesting video on cia.

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

The suddenly urgent calls by our Congressional Democratic leaders, and even by many of the American people, to prosecute CIA operatives, military men and women and contractors who were certainly involved with, colluded in or turned a blind eye to torture are not only the height of hypocrisy, they are a form of unconscionable scapegoating. The scapegoating is political on the part of Congressional leaders, and psychological on the part of many Americans who are now "shocked" at what was done in their name.

Hello America, were you asleep for the past seven years? The fact that the Bush administration used torture has been the furthest thing from a secret. When the political winds were with the last administration, which framed qualms about torture as being soft on "the war on terror", just about every Congressional Democrat fell right into line to accept it, if not cheer it on. Even Hillary Clinton supported torture – right up through her presidential run. Nancy Pelosi was briefed on the torture in closed-door meetings. When activist groups and citizens called for a special prosecutor, all we heard from Congressional Democrats was how they did not wish to spend the political capital.

President Bush hid the torture in plain sight by championing it. Vice-President Cheney gave such explicit interviews about his role in directing the policy of torture that in legal terms, were there a prosecution, they would amount to a confession. Did the Congress that is now so piously calling for the investigation of rank-and-file agents and military personnel express their horror and outrage then? With a very few exceptions, they did not.

Since 2003 it has been fully documented by rights organisations, and accessible to anyone listening, that direct US policy for prisoners included electrodes on genitals, suffocation, hanging prisoners from bars by the wrists, beatings, concealed murders, sexual assault threats, sexual humiliation and forced nudity, which is considered a sex crime in warfare, international and domestic law. Many voices, from Jane Mayer's to Michael Ratner's to Jameel Jaffer's to Amnesty and Human Rights Watch, made similar documented charges. Did our leaders call for investigations? They barely even called for a moment's consideration; tolerating torture – "tough tactics", "enhanced interrogations" in those demonic euphemisms – polled well; supporting it made them look tough in close elections; it was overwhelmingly OK with them.

And may we please look in the mirror, for the sake of our own moral health? How many Americans spoke up when it was chic to thrill to the sadistic soundbite of "take the gloves off"? How many watched 24 without a murmur when the mass consensus was that it was OK – no, patriotic – to waterboard a bit? www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by Polynomial C


JFK was a henchmen of the globalists, and studied at the London School of Economics as a Fabian Socialist.He played ball up to a certain point, (the Russian missile crisis when he apparently realized how evil they were and that they actually would nuke Russia), then he turned on them, vowed to abolish the CIA, set up a money system to end the FED and that is when they had the CIA (which was set up to be super secretive and to manipulate the military finances, by their employee, Allen Dulles and used someone that Hoover referred to in a famous memo as George Bush although that may have been a coincidence) assassinate him. So far Ron Paul hasn't made direct waves, up til now. But this could be a wave, or on the other hand the globalists may be planning to throw the CIA under the bus.

This is the clip that woke me up
video.google.com...#

Also read L. Fletcher Prouty The Secret Team,The CIA and its Allies in Control of the United States and the World

[edit on 19-1-2010 by m khan]

Originally posted by SpacePunk

Originally posted by Hermitoutofhishole
I used to think Ron Paul was the greatest . I don't anymore . He received more money than any other candidate in the republican primaries and he didn't win when he should have . He never spent the money to win the election and it is my opinion he never had any intention of winning - . He sure does write a lot of books in his spare time and makes a lot of money selling them .
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He didn't win because the main stream media in the United States scrubbed all mention of him from news reports. At the time if you read Reuters or AP, he was mentioned, but if you read CNN, MSNBC, etc... all mention of him was removed from AP or Reuters tagged articles.

He didn't win because those that control the media didn't want him to win. Instead of killing him physically, they virtually killed him in the news.

BINGO!
Ron Paul (or insert any other erased from public access candidate) managed to make it to the point that he did by individuals just like ourselves talking word of mouth, or internet, basically grass roots, and then it made it to the BIG ARENA, the main stream machine kicked in, and there's NOTHING, no sir there is nothing out there that can go up against the MSM and even Hope to effect or maintain growth and support, UNLESS THEY (those in charge, and there are "those in charge"if you want your job) ALLOW IT!
Sure you'll get your little snip of air time, your "chance" to speak, but you better believe that the debate panelists or moderator will "lead into" your camera time with a "loaded pysch" statement to "weigh" your response BEFORE you even get to speak, thus setting up the waiting publics interpretation of you and your value and your beliefs and your viability.
"Remember how Cameron treated him, and Hannity, and all the other little well paid shills to the system? THEY ARE PAID WELL, millions and millions of dollars, and all the other little wanna be's sniffing their chair, who want that prime time slot will do ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING, to keep their personal gain machine in motion.
Dont think that "meetings" dont happen, that "expressed opportunities to continue the opinion" arent STRONGLY SUGGESTED to maintain your current employment status and monetary income.
IT happens all the time.
The machine that sits in your livingroom, den, bar, doctors office wall, bank, classroom, shopping center, retail store, RV, car headrest, kitchen, garage, and even in your hand....has the most influential power you will ever have.It has direct access to your brain, your opinion, and your power to make up your mind. ITS SO POWERFUL, IT CAN BROADCAST FAKE EVENTS AND YOU WILL BELIEVE THEM AS REAL, and you will emotionally engage in them as if you were right there.
Dont think for a minute that you will get that seat, that job, that access, if you are not "the right person".
ALL MEDIA is like this.
Ron Paul isnt fake, his acccess is fake through MSM.
You've got a B-llSh-t filter right behind those big beautiful eyes momma used to look at and have hope for you through.
Use it well.
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There's plenty of evidence out there here's a couple quick links, just keep searching and learning.



[edit on 19-1-2010 by HappilyEverAfter]

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
Here I sit at work, 27 years old, and I can honestly say that I have never voted. Not ONE single time. There has never been a reason for me to vote, that I could think of. What is the point of voting if all you have to choose from is a "Giant Douche" and a "Turd Sandwich"? That and the fact that it is possible for thee POPULAR vote (BY THE CITIZENS) to be thrown out on its back side if it dosent please TPTB.

I can also honestly say that if Mr. Paul were to run for president, I would pitch a tent in the line. He seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders and if it came down to it he would have my vote.

MessOnTheFED!

[edit on 18-1-2010 by MessOnTheFED!]

You should ALWAYS vote. People around the world and throughout history have died trying to get the vote since despite its flaws democracy is a far better system than a dictatorship.

If you don't agree with any of the candidates then SPOIL YOUR VOTE. Spoilt votes are counted. Imagine the outcry if the majority of votes were spolit!

Finally there is never ever a perfect match between individual beliefs and collective representation (parties). You have to weigh up pros and cons this means you have to think. I strongly suspect the non voters can't or don't wish to think for themselves ie make a decision!

Originally posted by Polynomial C

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Uh-oh -- that's the same thing JFK said, shortly before he was assassinated by the CIA.

The Difference is that JFK had power and people took him seriously .... things that Ron Paul lacks ..

[edit on 18-1-2010 by Polynomial C]

Especially since the Bruno movie

I wonder if TPTB made that happen as a war to smear him.

reply to post by Mr Poopra


If there is another attack on the CIA, Ron would be the number one suspect. Expect a Predator drone on his butt.

Originally posted by Mr Poopra
God, keep this man safe. If anything happens to him, I for one will be incredibly suspicious...

Suspicious of what? That you asked God for help and, what a surprise, he never showed?

Originally posted by mikelee
reply to post by Hermitoutofhishole

 

I agree. Ron Paul says the things that people want to hear like the hero in a action movie. But when it comes time to fight the fight, the credits start rolling.

I like him but he's action-less.

You're wrong. he does everything he can do within the confines of the law.
He's the one on the floor doing his job every day speaking out against the crap, and voting against it. Spending countless hours debating these imbeciles on TV trying to make people see what's going on and what makes sense to do. Most of this on his own time.

Where is his support?

You make like he's supposed to cut israel off our bankroll, clean the filth out of government and destroy the fed himself. Is that his job?

That's OUR JOB! So who is really actionless????
Everyone wants to sit there, spectate and comment like it's a damned football game or something when it's not.

That's the whole problem.

I was a Precinct Leader. A strong campaigner for Dr. Ron Paul. I stood in the freezing rain for hours with signs, among other loyal supporters. We made calls for hours on end trying to get people to vote for him in the primaries. People were waking up. Passion was our source of strength.

...in the end, the MSM completely shut him down. TPTB did what they do best and showed those of us who are awake, that they do control who gets in the White House.

Ron Paul is right once again. But I agree with many of you who said even if he did manage to some how get into office, he wouldn't last long. People with true ideals or an actual moral compass, well... they don't last long because they don't cooperate with TPTB. Simple as that.

If people really truly cared about what was happening, how come no one is trying to get Obama on all sorts of things? He made sooo many promises, and what has he fulfilled? Weren't we suppose to be out of the Middle East in his first year? Well, I'm sure he had good intentions.



[edit on 19-1-2010 by EagleTalonZ]

its more than the CIA though...the FBI, NSA, CIA and all the other secretive corporations controlling everythin

they all need taking out

BOOM!!! headshot!

Originally posted by mikelee
I like him but he's action-less.

Wow really? He started campaign for liberty, and is in the process of auditing the fed!

That is more *good* action than anyone has seen in years.

Originally posted by The_Zomar

Originally posted by mikelee
I like him but he's action-less.

Wow really? He started campaign for liberty, and is in the process of auditing the fed!

That is more *good* action than anyone has seen in years.

So true!!!!
Also he's awakened quite a few people, he's the only one that said in a lou dobbs interview that the iraq war was because of 30trillion dollars of oil, he's the only one that had the cahonas to say... over and over again.. that "they attack us because we are over there", he's the only one that had a bigger convention than the republican convention.

He's done alot more than that too

I'm not too fond of his son though, Rand Paul, but Ron Paul ROCKS!

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Ron Paul states, "We need to take out the CIA!"

THIS IS HERESY!!!!!

TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!

SOMEONE HANG THIS MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



[edit on 19-1-2010 by tankthinker]

Man, I dig this. Someone else posted a thread showing Ron Paul speaking from the house floor where he was calling for a revolution, but they insisted it was a peaceful revolution.

I disagreed.

Now, listening to this, by what method do you suppose he will "take out" the CIA? Would he just shut it down? Don't think so.

I think Paul knows, as the founders knew, that there will come a point when all attempts and efforts to publicly and civilly resolve our grievances will come to an end and were are left with one option. Do I dare say that everyone take up arms tomorrow and start shooting??? No.

The whole system on both sides is corrupt beyond reproach. Elections only bring about the same. People are fed up and want real change, not lip service.

Thank God for civil servants like Dr. Paul. Our founders would be proud of him.