reply to post by apollospeed
Well, first of all, I was a Spec Ops for some years, so I know some stuff about what you're planning.
Assuming that you're really going on with this, let me give you some light:
i myself have have strongly very thought about grabbing my ak-47
Wrong. You have to think what will happen if you get caught. In the military, that means not having anything that you can't afford lose. In this
case, is anything that can justify them to kill you by simply knowing you're armed. Don't make yourself a even higher threat by arming yourself.
1.) once past the first lot of signs how far to the actual permiter fence in distance?
Any fense that they have, will provably have breach detectors. Anyway, you have to think at least 1 mile before any sign, that's where the passive
detectors are. They know when you are facing those signs, so you have to study how to even get there without them knowing about it. If you manage
that, you just need to make sure they don't detect you.
2.) what would be likley to encounter on ground, say every 400-800m, once we get past the first lot of signs?
Heat monitors, vibrations detectors, cameras, wires, possibly some deadly devices like mines and whatnot.
If you trigger one of those, you're dead. They do have snipers full-time, and if there are not snipers full-time, they are ready on the first alarm
Those sheriff trucks that you see, are just the visual warning. You provably already have a cross on your head when they warn you.
Remind yourself that a sniper can easily kill you in a 1000/1500m range. and they have trained eyes.
3.) the desired crew, an experienced rally trained driver,
simply forget about the "rush and photo" thing. You can't do it like that. That just triggers an heavy security response to your location, you'll
die in seconds.
A vehicle is not an option. Too much noise, dust, heat, and trails. You'll get detected in seconds, miles away.
This type of "mission" is an infiltration one. It's not a thing of seconds, nor minutes, nor hours. It can take days or weeks.
You have to cammo yourself, and you have to move like you're part of the background, and make sure you don't have a presence that can't be noticed
while looking at it, but will be noticed when its not there anymore. (a bush doesn't go to get some coffe)
4.) i would very much like to be a part of this mission
Again, if you want to do this... This is a covert operation. Not a war. If you want to get something out of it, try to get in undetected, gather your
info, and get out. If they don't know you're there, they won't go and search for you.
From the time you get detected, you're a threat. And EVEN if you can get away from them, they will hunt you like wild dogs. You will never get
5.) possible vehicle choice and desired speed?,
The most mundane and simple vehicle you can find. And something you can leave behind.
If you want my advice, just use a vehicle to get around 10 to 15 miles close to Area 51. after that, walk (IN THE NIGHT) or crawl.
6.) the best road for straightness, for maximum speed once we get past the signs to take us to the fence, then we hope to smash
AVOID ALL KNOW ROUTES. A vehicle needs to use a road, so they monitor those. But a person by foot can go anywhere, thus, you're chance of finding a
better entry point is much higher. You don't see snipers using vehicles while doing a recon op.
8.) regarding security, best of a night or daytime?, or does it matter?, of a night we dont have to use headlghts and use infra-red
By night, for obvious reasons. Although they have detectors that don't depend on light, and they have night detectors, you have a better chance in
DON'T USE INFRA-RED TECHNOLOGY! They provably have infra-red detectors, and even if pass one of those, they provably use nightvision cameras/goggles.
Those can pick IR beams from MILEs away. That's an instant give away.
Buy military gear, NV goggles and whatnot. Those are made for stealth.
9.) we would very much like to either stream this attempt live on here or somewhere else on the web incase we were not to make it
Don't. That's an instant give away. They monitor those things, and if you're transmitting what you are doing so everyone here knows, so do they.
But mostly, you're failing already by stating your plans in here. This is something that you do plan in secret.
[edit on 18/1/10 by Tifozi]