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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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With the Obama Administration doing extensive data collection on our personal communication, we decry our lose of privacy and lose of the Constitution, but one important reason to object to this data collection/list making/total control is that it is standard operation procedure of Communist takeover to make a list of all those people who might be troublesome for the new regime, a "to kill" list. If you doubt that this is standard operating procedure or that this is in the works for us then you should watch a clip of Yuri Bezmenov being interviewed by G. Edward Griffin in 1984



video.google.com...#

It is a rather long video, but well worth viewing. I found it especially interesting because of his references to East Pakistan.

Yuri Bezmenov, a KGB agent working in India apparently around 1970, stumbled upon a list of people to be killed and found that the people who were on the list were people who were sympathetic to Russia and some were people he had worked with and liked. He was very sympathetic to India and was outraged. He was told that people who were sympathetic to the communist cause in the early stage of takeover were eliminated in the later takeover stage because they tended to become disillusioned when faced with the reality with the brutality of a takeover and would become bitter enemies. Therefore they were preemptively killed off as standard operating procedure.
He then found evidence of Russian support for a communist uprising in East Pakistan, some arms and ammunitions in the Russian Embassy, crates of weapons, labeled as literature to be shipped to Dacca University. The East Pakistanis, who considered communism to be cool and hip, were pushing for autonomy from West Pakistan and in the national election won an overall majority of the seats in the new National Assembly. They were sympathetic to the communists, but the communist organization there did not participate in the election. The Awami League took almost every seat in the National Assembly for their province, but none from the rest of Pakistan but still had a majority due mostly to the size of the population and would have run the whole country if they had been allowed to take office. Sheik Mujibur Rahman, the leader of the Awami League, was not planning on independence, but hoping for enough autonomy to reverse the financial and social degradation the province had been experiencing under West Pakistani rule and was using threats of independence to get a better bargaining position from General Yahya and Bhutto. Everybody knew that they weren't going to hand over power to him. Their response was to extend the negotiating time to bring in troops, by plane in Dacca and by ship in Chittagong and then suddenly struck and massacred huge numbers of people, I don't claim to be an expert, but I was there then.and witnessed the Pak army going door to door killing families.
Bezmenov was upset enough to defect and to warn the US about the possible communist insurrection in East Pakistan. He was debriefed by the CIA and I will make a bet, connecting dots, that information prodded them into pushing the Pakistanis into that big massacre as a solution to the problem of there being too many voters in the province.This is about the beginning time of the US presence in Pakistan, drug smuggling from Afghanistan, and terror strikes and bombings in India, these are from the CIA trained Pakistan Intelligence, and even the connection between 911 "terrorists" to Pakistan Intelligence ties in
Ok that was my tangent. back to topic.
In another place on the video Bezmenov offers the example of a communist takeover in a section of Vietnam during the Vietnam war in which the Americans were amazed at how the communists could kill so many of their possible opposition in such short order. They controlled the region for two days only and knew exactly who to kill. His claim is that the intelligence had been gathered for a long time ahead about who was pro American and who was not, and when they took over, in a single night killed off the opposition.
You think I am full of it, I don't care. Troll away you trolls, put me down on your murder list you b...s


This preemptive kill off might ring a bell because the US congress March 13, 2008 was told in a not so secret meeting that the DHS had plans to preemptively round up potential opponents because of an upcoming financial crisis and social breakdown. Why did Senator Judd get all teary eyed when refusing to participate in the census operation as Secretary of Commerce?


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I hope my going off on a tangent has not made this confusing, the murders committed by the Pak Army imho at the direction and with the advice of the CIA, (it is estimated a total of three million people!) were their response to the threat of a communist uprising. But the theme of my thread is that it is standard opeerating procedure for the communists to murder everybody that might oppose them based on an extensive list, like the data on us collected by the DHS. That Obama is a communist or solicalist and ascribes to the Fabian school of socialism in which their symbol is a wolf in sheeps clothing, and deception being a tool of theirs, is assumed.

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 07:48 AM
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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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You do bring a unique,personal perspective to this subject. I'm sorry you had to live through that.

I appreciate you telling it like it is. Whenever I hear people from other countries describe the similarities between where they've been and where we are now,I take notice.

If anyone thinks this couldn't happen here,they are very much mistaken.

Thank you for speaking out.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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I wouldn't put it past him, but he won't make any moves with it till he gets his own force to back him, soon as that happens then we can start to worry(not the word I'm looking for, but it'll do for now).



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 07:58 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? What list?

Let me get this straight...

A guy "Yuri Bezmenov" made a video in the 80's (height of the cold war) with cooperation of the CIA. In this video, he helped to inform Americans about the evils of communism (the boogyman of the era). The same man found a list of people who were murdered in Pakistan....

Therefore Obama is a "Socialist or Communist" (because they are both scary, so why actually settle on one right?) and he is making a list to kill off the opposition.

Seems logical to me.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Sorry to confuse you. The video was made by G. Edward Griffin, interviewing Yuri Bezmenov years after he defected from Russia. The interview is an effort to warn Americans about creeping socialism. I don't think I am wrong to blur definitions of communist, socialism and nazi fascism for that matter, because theoretical discussion of their basic philosophies belies their actual origins, behind them all you will find the Rockefellers.the collectivists.

By the by you don't seem to include deaths from abortion in your chart on the real threat to America..but data shows 1.21 million in 2005 and 1.31 million in 2001, which would makes over 6 million, tops heart disease there.
www.guttmacher.org...
The Rockefellers are behind planned parenthood as well.


But basically if you watch the Yuri Bezmenov interview it's not that hard to sort out.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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You are correct, it is not that hard to sort out. It was used as propaganda back then, same as it is today.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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It stands to reason in a world such as ours that the "kill list" began much further back in time and has been added to and updated by every president leading up to and including Obama. While most of us are on some kind of list even if we think we are harmless and wouldnt cause any problems.

What we should be thinking about is "HOW" DHS plans to begin collecting those on the list. Since the list is so large, most policemen and many military will find their names on the list and will wonder why me? I am a player, I go along to get along.

Well, even those that helped the Nazi's manage the Jews and helped lie to get the victims to believing that they were about to take a shower were eventually killed as well. Look at Russia, Cambodia, China and you will find that of all those targeted to be killed were just average middle class citizens that could teach, read, write, possessed property or wealth or had once served in the military. Those with education, technical skills and foreign language capabilites were rounded up and executed in mass and buried in mass graves. I would encourage a Google search for Cambodia massacres to see for yourself that those killed with a priority were those that could think or had records of independent thought regardless of profession or status in social standing.

Now ask yourself the following question. If the elite, intent on killing the majority of Americans begins in ernest to round up and begin killing those deemed a threat, then I contend they will target and remove those that are the voice and leaders for independent news agencies and those that inform the public to the reality of our situation and the lethal understanding that there are those that want to round up our families, our friends and neighbors and then transport everyone to FEMA death camps where re-education means death and an oven for everyone brought to the death camps.

We are all on some list for something or another. We have to come to grips that when they begin rounding up Americans deemed resistence types, it will include anyone not deemed worthy to join the elite as a slave. We have to resist, but we have to understand and and begin to discuss how the gathering or roundup of Americans will be conducted. Moreover, how are we going to stay informed when the Internet is shut down?

It will be important to understand how the evil elite plan to execute their plan because we will need to know that they will begin rounding up Americans under the guize of relocation to safe areas and I believe that the communist purge of all those on the list will begin with trying to get Americans to voluntarially report for transport without being told that they will never be able to get off the train in the same status they got on the train.

Many Vietnamese were told to report to a public location for some type of award and when the victims showed up they were quietly restrained and gagged and taken by truck to an undisclosed location where the Cambodians killed everyone without hesitation. Women, children, the old, even animals were all killed in order to bring in the new change and hope promised by the communist taking power.

The reality of what Obama may be doing is not hard to understand, but how they plan to carry out the roundup is another issue that we need to think about and openly discuss because its not about whether they will do what they planned, its about when they will begin to execute the plan and how to do so without telegraphing their intentions to the eargerly waiting sheeple. If they begin their purge and dont do it correctly or completely, "Hell on Earth" will be brought directly to them and the elite want to be successful in their plans to depopulate the planet.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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If estimated deaths in Haiti are at 200,000, how is it physically possible for an earthquake to kill that many people without help from the us military.?

If the us military, or blackwater-xe is making a move in Haiti,then things could happen here quickly.

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Sorry, my mistake, I should have read the reference myself instead of hearsay. The 200,000 were not deaths but people affected

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Sorry my mistake again, I shouldn't have posted without researching it myself. Please ignore this post. I should delete it,
news.bbc.co.uk...

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Karlhungis
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You are correct, it is not that hard to sort out. It was used as propaganda back then, same as it is today.
I wouldn't worry about it at all, you certainly won't be on the 'kill list'. Kill lists have been used in the past, by Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao and many others. I haven't trusted any of the Presidents that these United States have had since I have been a voter (Ronald Reagan), and I don't trust Obama either!



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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If he didn't make lists (like his predecessors) and something happened his political enemies would turn it into him being soft of terror.

He can't win with those on the right...

... with anyone really... it's funny because you would think the fact that he pisses of the liberals almost as much as the conservatives would make him highly rated, but instead people show that they WANT to be lumped into false left/right paradigms.

Sad really.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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I can't add anything that MaxBlack hasn't said in his post. HOW they would do a roundup and what our responses would be are the implied questions. I have no doubt they keep lists of who is against what and who has valuable skills they might use and who doesn't.
My opinion is that there are 2 ways to conduct such an operation; 1): using the pretext of a quarantine to lock down areas and "cleanse" them one town at a time - OR - 2): Shut down the power grid and tell people to meet in given areas for food and water. There are many more ways but I would bet on the first alternative if it were happen.
Given the sheer number of firearms in private hands they would have their work cut out for them. They could only disarm America through trickery and deceit, not by brute force alone.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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You are right. They would have to do it in stages. There are over 300 million people here, they couldn't kill that many all at once. They would have to lock down the areas of the country and prevent them from knowing what is happening in other places. There are too many people with cell phones. Somebody would get wise and spread the word somehow.They would have to have some plausible explanation for rounding people up. It has to involve deception. If people know they are going to die they are not going to go. The way they treated people in Katrina how do we know they weren't killing people.

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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This is where obama's civilian security force would come into play. They'd have their little inbedded? embedded? (shrug) snitches in place.



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