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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
So no skeptics in this thread? So nobody can point out that this is a proposal, not by Obama himself but by an underling? Nobody can point out that law enforcement has been doing things like this to dangerous groups such as the mafia and gangs for ages? Nobody can question the paranoia of the anti-government groups?
Finally nobody can ask the biggest question here: Are these groups really actually dangerous enough to warrant this kind of action, especially if they may be plotting some kind of harm?
Got it OP, you've silenced me, I won't ask...
Calling him a fearmonger repeatedly is counter productive.
Originally posted by Meesterjojo
Jesus. Way to fearmonger. Way to use the tactics of your supposed enemies.
Well, at least you didn't bother to read the whole article, which had some interesting points in it. But then reading, and promoting reading an entire (shew so long) article would be counter productive, eh fearmonger?
Fearmonger fearmonger fearmonger fearmonger.
Oh- this is old new, note the date on your article, come back here and look for anything on this very topic which may have already been reported.
Late to the party, but your tin-foil hat still grants you admission, fearmonger.
Ya, anybody on here could be anybody. No one ever knows. People could very easily redirect IP addresses. I could be Obama for all you know.
Originally posted by MajorDisaster
Hmm so ATS could be infiltrated and monitored by some government alphabet-soup agency, no big surprise there.
Sunstein advocates that the Governments stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups." He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called "independent" credible voices to bolster the Government's messaging (on the ground that those who don't believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government). This program would target those advocating false "conspiracy theories," which they define to mean: "an attempt to explain an event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role."
Originally posted by SpectreDC
If there was any questioning of paranoia to be had, it is whether or not the fact that they are doing only solidifies our positions.
Originally posted by flyingfish
Whats the difference in them getting information on ATS and you and I getting information on ATS.They know what we think?GOOD. Maybe they will get their heads out their butts and take heed.
After all, if your sharing information that can convict you, maybe you shouldn't be posting it here.