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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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U.L.

Thanks for all your posts.
I have read (through pure synchronicity) all the material you have read - (H_H, The Wave, LOL, Ra material etc.)
Huge amounts of resonation occurred whilst reading and contemplating their content.
Not 100% every word I read, but enough to lift the last bit of that veil and help me remember myself and truely 'see'.

I am in concurrence with your reasons for now just following the thread.
There is only a certain amount of things that can be brought to the attention of others before Free Will is challenged, and I myself wouldn't want to be challenging it.

It's been great to read this post and its questions & advice (which I will continue to do)
It's been exciting to be aware of someone who shares my understanding/s and as I type this, I can feel those vibrations rise.

I hope to exchange thoughts and musings at some point my friend, and again, thanks for starting this thread.

Much love...




posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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Just a little FYI. I said I'd post something of the "dots" connecting this "Ra" to something more sinister than your friend U.L. talks about.

From www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Scroll down to "The Obelisk of the Egyptian Sun god Ra"


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His research continued as to their purpose and use and found that the obelisk was used in the worship of the ancient Egyptian Sun god, “Ra”. (Ibid 7). To gain insight into this world of Black Magic, the author “encountered the murky worlds of witchcraft, voodoo, demonology, and the darkest recesses of the human mind”.



The followers of the pagan or satanic religions of Egypt believed that the spirit of Ra lived in the obelisk. Three times a day, the worshippers of Ra were to face this obelisk and to pray to the god, Ra. According to Cathy Burns in the book, “Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated” , this practice has been transmitted over the centuries in the occultic societies who also “face the obelisk” daily. Here the obelisk represented the phallus of Osiris which was cut into fourteen parts.

This symbol was later transferred to the Canaanite god Baal, whom the prophets proclaimed the hatred of the God of Israel to this false religion. Later in the Mystery religions of the Greeks,

“Pan the goat god and god of sensuality were often represented by the obelisk.”


There's so much more along these lines. You just have to look for it to find it. It's not all "love and light"! I'm sure you can find plenty to support that,but until you see both sides,can you really say you know what you believe?

Look for the dark side of this "religion" or whatever it is,and you will find it.

If you still like what you see,then so be it. Just don't say no one ever warned you!



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:24 AM
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These stories were not familiar to me,and may be new to you,too!

"Apollyon Rising 2012",by Tom Horn is full of extensive research on these matters and how it all contributes to the coming rise of the "anti-christ".

This is from
defenderpublishing.blogspot.com...


In ancient times, the Obelisk represented the god Osiris’ "missing" male organ, which Isis was not able to find after her husband/brother was slain and chopped into fourteen pieces by Seth. Isis replaced the missing organ with an Obelisk and magically impregnated herself with Horus, the resurrected Osiris. This legend formed the core of Egyptian cosmology and was fantastically venerated on the most imposing scale throughout all of Egypt by towering Obelisks, including at Karnak where the upright Obelisks (of Osiris) were "vitalized" or "stimulated" from the energy of the masturbatory Sun god Ra shining down upon them. Modern people, especially in America, may view these symbols as profane or pornographic, but they were in fact ritualized objects the ancients believed could produce tangible reactions, properties, or "manifestations" within the material world. The Obelisk and Dome as imitations of the deities’ male and female reproductive organs could, through government representation, invoke into existence the being or beings symbolized by them. This is why inside the temple or Dome, temple prostitutes representing the human manifestation of the goddess were also available for ritual sex as a form of imitative magic…

Through such imitative sex, the Dome and Obelisk became "energy receivers" capable of assimilating Ra’s essence from the rays of the sun, which in turn drew forth the "seed" of the underworld Osiris. The seed of the dead deity would, according to the supernaturalism, transmit upward from out of the underworld through the base (testes) of the Obelisk and magically ejaculate from the tower’s head into the womb (Dome) of Isis. In this way, Osiris could be "born again" or reincarnated as Horus over and over….



The sole purpose of the rituals and these constructs is to raise the spirit of Osiris from the underworld into human form. This incarnation of Osiris is parodied in the House of the Temple (Heredom) during changes in U.S. presidents, just as they were in the ancient Egyptian ritual of raising Osiris into Pharaoh. But the ritual in DC is rehearsed in anticipation of a greater moment in time, when the literal, physical return of the entity Apollo/Osiris will give birth to the novus ordo seclorum. Think of the rituals in the House of the Temple as a warm-up for Antichrist’s actual Second Coming.
To assure that the arrival of Apollo/Osiris will not be impeded by the influence of Christianity—which so many of America’s citizens have been devoted to since the country’s founding—the "Lost Symbol" Bible was placed in a Magic Binding Square inside the "testes" of the DC Obelisk of Osiris (Washington Monument). According to the occultism, this binding utility is meant to restrain the Bible’s influence while allowing the seed of Osiris to materialize.

Further confirmation of this is in the fact these symbols were faithfully reproduced at the House of the Temple (see support notes below). This includes the 13-stepped, uncapped pyramid (like the one on the Great Seal and the pyramidion on top of the Washington Obelisk made of 13-rows of marble hidden beneath aluminium sheeting) that rests atop the House of the Temple, and a Magic Binding Square with the same numerical values as the Washington Obelisk. The Magic Square can be seen in the skylight above the Temple Room, which intentionally hovers over where the Raising of Osiris Ceremony is performed.


Like I said,it's pretty extensive. You really have to read it yourself to get the whole picture!



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
Just a little FYI. I said I'd post something of the "dots" connecting this "Ra" to something more sinister than your friend U.L. talks about.

From www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Scroll down to "The Obelisk of the Egyptian Sun god Ra"


"

His research continued as to their purpose and use and found that the obelisk was used in the worship of the ancient Egyptian Sun god, “Ra”. (Ibid 7). To gain insight into this world of Black Magic, the author “encountered the murky worlds of witchcraft, voodoo, demonology, and the darkest recesses of the human mind”.



The followers of the pagan or satanic religions of Egypt believed that the spirit of Ra lived in the obelisk. Three times a day, the worshippers of Ra were to face this obelisk and to pray to the god, Ra. According to Cathy Burns in the book, “Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated” , this practice has been transmitted over the centuries in the occultic societies who also “face the obelisk” daily. Here the obelisk represented the phallus of Osiris which was cut into fourteen parts.

This symbol was later transferred to the Canaanite god Baal, whom the prophets proclaimed the hatred of the God of Israel to this false religion. Later in the Mystery religions of the Greeks,

“Pan the goat god and god of sensuality were often represented by the obelisk.”


There's so much more along these lines. You just have to look for it to find it. It's not all "love and light"! I'm sure you can find plenty to support that,but until you see both sides,can you really say you know what you believe?

Look for the dark side of this "religion" or whatever it is,and you will find it.

If you still like what you see,then so be it. Just don't say no one ever warned you!


Hmm Edge Your heading in the right direction and UL knows what's coming - thus his exit from the thread. It started with his admittance of the inaccuracies of the source materials that all this is based upon. My emphasis on truth.

Many do not discern that this really is not a game but a war. And war is waged by deception. The deception is coming in as an angel of light with warm and fuzzy words eloquently spoken, positive utterances of love and service - all candy coating the poisonous lie that dwells deep within. That lie is that you can elevate yourself to be like the most high - to be God - the same error that was Lucifer's.

Any self styled Guru that begins to instruct by asking you to "imagine" and put energy into the thought and feed that thought in your imagination is surely pointing to a path of delusion. As the thought only exist in the mind and the mind is not really you. Silence the mind and it will vaporize with all it's imaginations along with it's manifestation of the ego. Silence the clamoring of the mind once and for all and reality will rush in.

Imagination is of the mind, imagination is made up of thoughts, thoughts are born of desires and only exist in the mind. Be without desire. If you really want to become self realized you must know what is yourself and what is not yourself. Atma Vichara, self investigation. You are not your mind or your body. Your thoughts exist in your mind and your mind/body is not really you.


The perceived cannot be the perceiver. Whatever you see, hear or think of, remember - you are not what happens, you are he to whom it happens. Desire, fear, trouble, joy, they cannot appear unless you are there to appear to. Yet, whatever happens points to your existence as a perceiving center. Disregard the pointers and be aware of what they are pointing to. Realize that every mode of perception is subjective, that what is seen or heard, touched or smelt, felt or thought, expected or imagined, is in the mind and not in reality, and you will experience peace and freedom from fear. - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj


Thus my postings about self delusion and vain imaginings in the mind



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Continued:

Did the Buddha or Krishna or Jesus ever speak of densities, octaves, astral planes, crystalline energies and all that has been expounded on in this thread. Perhaps we should all ask ourselves why???

Yet the teachings of Buddha, Krishna and many others are used as a springboard foundation to feed imagined concepts, thoughts imagined in the mind and the mind really doesn't exist. Do not let yourself be deceived.

When you sleep and do not dream does the mind exist? No! Yet when you awake you know you existed, you know you slept. But, where was the mind with all it's thoughts and imaginations??? GONE!

Yes there is the possibility of new truths to be revealed. But new truth NEVER contradicts existing truth.







[edit on 21-1-2010 by Emptiness Dancing]



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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There's nothing that the darkness hates more than light!

After I saw he was exiting,what came to my mind was "Resist the devil and he will flee from you!"(Which gave me a little chuckle.)

Please,continue posting your rebuttals to this nonsense if you are so inclined! Every bit helps!



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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This is where your going, off track.

Where there is Darkness there is Light and where there is Light there is Darkness, they are inseperable.

The Christian belief system divides reallity into good and bad and right and wrong. This is incorrect as there is no right or wrong, there only is love and that love is that which all is.

If your more benevolent than the entity that is called Ra, than why do you use the word hate?

Your post is but a microism of the great violent macroism that is Earths war-torn sphere due to religious friction now and in the past.


[edit on 21-1-2010 by 11118]



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Matthew 10:24
"A student is not above his teacher,nor a servant above his master. If the head of the house has been called Beezlebub,how much more the members of his household?"

Isaiah 5:20-21
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,who put darkness for light and light for darknss,who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight."

Luke 11:35
"See to it then,that the light within you is not darkness."


With love,
On the Edge



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
reply to post by Emptiness Dancing
 


There's nothing that the darkness hates more than light!

After I saw he was exiting,what came to my mind was "Resist the devil and he will flee from you!"(Which gave me a little chuckle.)

Please, continue posting your rebuttals to this nonsense if you are so inclined! Every bit helps!


Edge - I will later - I'm at work now.

One thing though - it's not about good and evil - there is a purpose in the polarity. Truth is found when unity is found in duality. Evil eventually serves good and I'll expound more later.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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The Bible says that God creates darkness and makes evil.

How do opposites come from one source? Unless they both serve equal purpose for that ONE source.

Even the best adversary...is part of Gods plan.

The darkness might not be Gods natures...but serves a purpose to Gods nature.

How does one know the worth of light...without experiencing a time without light. How does one know the worth of love, without experiencing a time of hate.

We are supposed to have duality here, the intention is for us to discern what side of the duality is the nature we choose to live for. One is for spirit...the other is for Earth. Its a marker, to show what one still needs to learn from. Nothing more, nothing less.

How would we learn the lessons of Jesus...without the group that sought his death? Both serve a purpose, both show a path. Everyone has a choice, of which path they choose. Both paths serve an opportunity for learning. The lesson may be of Earth, and if that is what the soul has chosen, that is obviously a marker for what the soul is still in need of. It wont be judged for what it is still in need of.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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I feel your point of view is very compassionate towards the existance realm or the OTHERSIDE and I like how you are attempting to enlighten everyone with such a BRIGHT thread. I really dont have any questions as I am saying thanks for helping the CAUSE which is to guide many back to the realm of light where they belong. I will give you a S&F for your efforts in guiding the massess on a positive level and in helping them open their minds to the TRUE CREATOR we are all part of, nice thread



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by 11118
reply to post by On the Edge
 



Where there is Darkness there is Light and where there is Light there is Darkness, they are inseperable.

The Christian belief system divides reallity into good and bad and right and wrong. This is incorrect as there is no right or wrong, there only is love and that love is that which all is.





1. Go into a dark room and flick on the light switch!

2."Thou shalt not kill"-Right or wrong?(Or is killing in the name of "love" allowed?)

I suppose there is no Up or Down,there is no In or Out? There is only Love?



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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You should ask yourself the questions you are asking others.

Is killing right or wrong. If its wrong...then why would God lead man to kill others...for any reason.

You cant serve two masters/natures. If God orders man to kill...what is the 'evil' of Satan then, I must know. For taking life is the ultimate carnal actions of man. But many men beleive God orderd man to kill...even the 'final sacrafice' must envolve a soul willing to kill something.

Again, either God is using both light and dark for Thee's purpose....or God did not order man to kill anything and man is wrong.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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The darkness might not be Gods natures...but serves a purpose to Gods nature.

How does one know the worth of light...without experiencing a time without light. How does one know the worth of love, without experiencing a time of hate.

Everyone has a choice, of which path they choose. Both paths serve an opportunity for learning. The lesson may be of Earth, and if that is what the soul has chosen, that is obviously a marker for what the soul is still in need of. It wont be judged for what it is still in need of.


I don't doubt that evil serves a purpose,or God would not allow it!

I don't claim to know the mind of God,but I do know enough to choose to be on His side. Of course,only He can judge the heart,and He knows how to judge-not me!

And I've been "on the dark side",so I do know the difference!

What is being sold here as "light" I believe is extremely deceptive,and I'm just trying to show the other side of it. To offer up some of that opportunity for learning you mentioned.

If the "harvest" is so near,one had better get as much wisdom and knowledge as they can. God says that His word will be preached to all the nations before that time,so all will be accountable

Any day could be our last day on earth-and then it's too late.
No where in the Bible does it speak of reincarnation or the like. "It is appointed once for man to die,and then the judgement".

That's what I believe.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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The darkness might not be Gods natures...but serves a purpose to Gods nature.

How does one know the worth of light...without experiencing a time without light. How does one know the worth of love, without experiencing a time of hate.

Everyone has a choice, of which path they choose. Both paths serve an opportunity for learning. The lesson may be of Earth, and if that is what the soul has chosen, that is obviously a marker for what the soul is still in need of. It wont be judged for what it is still in need of.


I don't doubt that evil serves a purpose,or God would not allow it!

I don't claim to know the mind of God,but I do know enough to choose to be on His side. Of course,only He can judge the heart,and He knows how to judge-not me!

And I've been "on the dark side",so I do know the difference!

What is being sold here as "light" I believe is extremely deceptive,and I'm just trying to show the other side of it. To offer up some of that opportunity for learning you mentioned.

If the "harvest" is so near,one had better get as much wisdom and knowledge as they can. God says that His word will be preached to all the nations before that time,so all will be accountable

Any day could be our last day on earth-and then it's too late.
No where in the Bible does it speak of reincarnation or the like. "It is appointed once for man to die,and then the judgement".

That's what I believe.


In many ways, you and I come in agreement. I do believe there is a path hat is not and a path that is. But I also know, from experience also, some must walk the path that is not, in order to see the one that is.

Our intent is the same...we are concerned for others. I dont see you as being seeking gratification from others but I do wonder if you arent seeking outside of Earthly things that can mislead us. Just know, my intent in discourse with you is of concern...just as though yours is with others.

I personally dont get caught up with harvest, raptures, ascensions...there is not point for they take away the fullness of possibilities today. Jesus said...even we will go on to do greater things. How can this be possible for those that believe Jesus was higher or better then anyone else. It seems that even Jesus knew...the limits to spiritual wisdom's were boundless, infinite, and can not be boxed into a book.

Will you please acknowledged how your Bible sells the 'light....when the OT God acts in human ways and does not seem 'perfect'? As much as you see what is being 'given' here is a deception of light, I find the deception is blood sacrifices and scapegoats for our wrongs.

I believe Jesus made it clear we were to stop using scapegoats. Stop blaming another for your wrongs and stop placing your wrongs onto another. Carry your cross..know that you will reap what you sow, know that every action and word will matter.

It doesnt matter if reincarnation is real or not. Even though everything else in this blueprint of reality seems to cycle and reincarnate on the foundation of everything is energy that returns from where it came from....and even though this would be the only way we could really reap what we sow....it doesnt matter.

Its the hearts intentions that matter. If one chooses to do wrong to another...they and they only will have to claim that one day and face the feelings this wrong brought apone that person.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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But many men beleive God orderd man to kill...even the 'final sacrafice' must envolve a soul willing to kill something.



There are delusional,mentally-incompetant people who hear "voices" they claim is God telling them to kill! That's a very bad example! People who kill in the name of God are wrong!("Vengeance is mine,says the Lord")

We are to love our enemies,even do good to them. That is our highest commandment.

What you say about a "final sacrifice and a soul willing to kill something" sounds very,very wrong. I don't know what to say about that. I know what I'm thinking,but I'll keep that to myself.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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But many men beleive God orderd man to kill...even the 'final sacrafice' must envolve a soul willing to kill something.



There are delusional,mentally-incompetant people who hear "voices" they claim is God telling them to kill! That's a very bad example! People who kill in the name of God are wrong!("Vengeance is mine,says the Lord")

We are to love our enemies,even do good to them. That is our highest commandment.

What you say about a "final sacrifice and a soul willing to kill something" sounds very,very wrong. I don't know what to say about that. I know what I'm thinking,but I'll keep that to myself.


But your God of the OT used killing to solve his problems. Your God of the OT ordered man to kill an entire nation of people for a Earthly possession. For a final sacrifice or any sacrifice for sins for that matter....a soul must be willing to kill to bring forth that plan.

I get the feeling this does not sit well with you and you cant decide if you want to make an excuse for such actions or just place it on the back burner and ignore it.

This is what I keep pointing out to you...the entire Bible must be discerned for actions have been placed onto God that makes Thee unholy and very carnal. I only bring this to you for your own caution...but you must take it for what you in need of at this time. Things of Earth or things of Spirit...each path offers a marker for what you are in need of and what you have accomplished.

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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Universal Light

Originally posted by watcher73

What harvest and how will it happen?


The Harvest is an event


Yes, thanks for not answering directly. I had already guessed it was an "event". When I asked you what I meant specifically. When I ask how I mean specifically.

If you cant answer specifically you are just another Cleo, just another astrologist, just another wannabe psychic.


in which if an entity has learned the lessons of that density


Do you think using words like "density" totally out of context and definition makes you sound any more reliable? Nope, less so.


it is eligible to graduate to the next density. Usually this is just designated for the inhabitants of a planet. However, at the end of a bigger cycle, the planet itself can be Harvested as well which is the case with Earth.


So the whole planet is going to be harvested now? Does that mean the whole planet will move to the "4th density" where time ceases to exist?


This process has actually already begun.



I cannot give you an exact time when this will happen as the future has an infinity full of timelines that are all possible but the event as it has already begun, will climax sooner than most would imagine.


So you cant give an exact time when it will happen yet you claim is has already started? Wouldnt that mean it is already happening? If it is already happening you are the worst psychic ever since all you have to do is look backwards to give a date instead of forwards.

So back to my first two questions. Answer them directly please instead of generally with astrology/psychic type answers that are meant to fool the retarded.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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Why do you quote the Old Testament and ignore that in the New Testament Christ put an end to sacrifice once and for all?

And my Bible teaches me that it is by faith,through grace,that we are saved,not by good intentions or by just doing good.(Those who have never heard the word of God,and children,among others,God will show mercy. His judgement will be perfect,because He is perfect.)

Yes,the earth recycles...wonderfully so-as long as Monsanto stays out of it!

People are different. People are not plants,and the earth won't be held accountable!



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by On the Edge

Why do you quote the Old Testament and ignore that in the New Testament Christ put an end to sacrifice once and for all?



Jesus said he came not to change the old law.

If he does put an end to sacrifice then that's just another hypocrisy located in the bible.




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