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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 05:57 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

So it's not really a reshuffle?

More like musical chairs only you don't have to take one chair out each time, and instead of music everyone runs around to the sound of protests in the street.

And yesterday the Supreme Court said that Hebron had to be left alone... was that payback from angry IDF soldiers? After all, the extreme right wing wants to annex Hebron as it is very important to them. Me thinks this was done independently of the Israeli government.

I don't think so.. Probably just the usual occupation bull#..

Weighing request? Are you kidding? People are being slaughtered and you're ``thinking`` about it?

Oh come on, the request was just filed this morning... There's no way they'd say no, but these things aren't magically approved...

The UN, as always, shows how sick it is.

Sadly, as long as it fits their narrative, people will never stop taking the U.N and the UNHRC seriously.

Ain't that ironic... but at least Iran wasn't THAT violent compared to that nutjob Gadafi.

Makes sense that they'd say that.. Such hypocrites..

Hamas calls for a solidarity march in support of Libyan people (Israel Radio)

They forgot to add "at gunpoint"..

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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 09:09 AM

2.57pm: Libya's former justice minister, who resigned from Gaddafi's government following the crackdown on protesters, has told a Swedish tabloid newspaper that Gaddafi personally ordered the Lockerbie bombing, which killed 270 people in 1988.

A reporter from Expressen interviewed Mustafa Abdel-Jalil in Libya. The newspaper's website quotes the former minister as saying: "I have proof that Gaddafi gave the order about Lockerbie."

No proof or evidence to support the claim is given in the article.

You can read a Google translation of Expressen's story here.

Original Story - Swedish
Original Story - Google Translation

posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 09:36 AM
reply to post by Shenon

That should increase the likelihood of UN action in some form.

posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 01:29 PM

Originally posted by stephinrazin
reply to post by Shenon

That should increase the likelihood of UN action in some form.

He is finished either way...The Problem right now is his ordered Genocide against his own People. But what really worries me is this Article.

If i read that right,Gaddafi tried to get WMD´s,especially Nuclear Weapons,numerous Times in the Past,even secretly trough Black Markets...

After everything he has done in the last few Days,i think its pretty safe to say,he will use them sooner or later...(if he has any...)

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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 06:30 PM

Oh come on, the request was just filed this morning... There's no way they'd say no, but these things aren't magically approved...

Yeah but I hate how governments operate like that. People are in need right freaking NOW and governments are slow as hell.

So... I should make a big post with all the news of the day, mostly concerning Libya... in about an hour or two... got things to do...

Last news is that I was monitoring a Chinese cargo plane that was going to land in Libya to get refugees out... and it disappeared from the radar as soon as it crossed into Libyan's airspace... If Libya really shot down the plane... they are going to be in a world of hurt.

And yes, Libya got WMDs... chemical weapons and biological weapons to be precise... and people fear Qaddafi the nut might use them when his end approaches.

posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 10:38 PM
Afghanistan :
Denmark to begin pulling troops from Afghanistan this summer
Afghanistan seeks US help post-2014

Afghanistan on Wednesday appealed for the United States to provide security assistance beyond 2014, the date by which President Barack Obama wants to withdraw US combat troops.

One in three Afghan troops leave army: NATO

One in three Afghan soldiers still leave the army each year, but NATO remains on track to raise the number of security forces to 305,000 by October, an alliance general said Wednesday.

And of course, some of those use their training against the NATO forces.
Saudi Arabia :

Saudi king announces benefits, but no political reforms, before return (Reuters)

If The Mountain Will Not Come To The Muhammad, The Revolution Will Come To Saudi Arabia On March 20
Yeah if that happens... say goodbye to the world economy.
Iran :
US: Iran ships must follow international law

The United States called Wednesday for two Iranian ships in the Mediterranean Sea to adhere to international law and said it was keeping a careful eye on their activities.

Iranian naval ships arrive in Syria

Two Iranian naval ships arrived Wednesday afternoon at the Port of Lattakia in Syria, after crossing the Suez Canal Tuesday, Iranian news agency IRNA reported.

The source noted that the ships' arrival will be marked by a special ceremony at the port, which will be attended by officials from both countries.

The delegation is scheduled to stay in Syria for "a short time", and will then continue sailing in the Mediterranean Sea, the source noted.

And guess what?

New flotilla for Gaza on deadly raid anniversary

A new flotilla of ships will try to reach Gaza at the end of May to mark the first anniversary of deadly Israeli raid against a similar convoy that killed nine Turkish activists, organisers said Monday.

In may, the Iranian frigate will still be in the area... what happens if they join the flotilla?
NATO 'monitoring Iran's naval move'
Indeed they are. US with planes and Israel with their navy.
Iran praises N Korea's resistance to US
Ok that is just retarded.

Senegal severs ties with Iran over rebel weapons (Reuters)

Iran's answer : we are surprised... sure you are.

Barak to CNN: Iranian war ships are a provocation, but we aren't worried (Haaretz)

Barak the sane one.
Egypt :

Angry Egyptian policemen set fire to Interior Ministry building (DPA)

Egypt protesters set cars alight in Cairo (Reuters)

Palestine :
New Grad rocket fired into Israel
Better than the Katushia.

Report: Israel retaliates with airstrike in Gaza city, wounds two Islamic Jihad militants (Reuters)

Ivory Coast :
Ivorian troops kill protesters
Unrest spreading in Africa... even if Ivory Coast has seen unrest for a while..
Bahrain :

BAHRAIN: Freed political prisoners join protests

Bahrain's king visits Saudi allies amid protests (AP)

Libya :

The rebels control the eastern part of the country, where most of the oil is... Gadafi basically only controls Tripoli... so he's screwed. He'll lose for sure. Or Libya will split into several countries.

General consensus from the US-UK military is that it won't end until Gadafi is killed... totally agree.

Turkish worker shot dead near Tripoli. Turkish TV.

the airport in Tripoli is choked to capacity

The UK charter flights are due to arrive soon. The USA has sent ferry boats from Malta for evacuation

Oh well, off to Libya it is then: ''Business man is Offering mercenaries 1or2 Mill Dollar 4 the heads of Gadaffi & his sons''

under the panic and confusion they were people telling us and others on twitter of jet fighters firing. Although it is confirmed the boats and ships were ordered to bomb benghazi. it is something he wanted to do for years. But as we stated the 2 battleships 2 helicopters and 2 jet fighters all refused and defected to Malta. But one thing we are sure of but still looking into, is the jet fighters tried to disrupt the route to zzawia etc so not to help tripoli.

People so relieved to have int eyes on them in benghazi. Army officers leading revolt with lawyers & professionals

1:46pm A British oil worker stranded with others in a camp in eastern Libya has called on his government to rescue them from a "nightmare" scenario. James Coyle told the BBC that he and around 300 other Britons, Germans, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Austrians and Romanians were stranded at the desert camp with only enough food and water to "maybe" last one day.

Residents of nearby towns armed with AK-47s have come to the camp multiple times to take supplies, he said.

"They've looted ... the German camp next door, they've taken all their vehicles, all our vehicles ... everything. So we are here desperate for the British government to come and get us," Coyle said.

URGENT n confirmed Egyption Army blocked all roads around Libyan Embassy in Cairo to Demo. PLEASE SPREAD. #Libya #Feb17 #Cairo #Gaddafi

Derna: Women and girls take to the streets in a huge mass demo, #Libya #Feb17

The people of Tripoli are putting on a heroic effort this city is littered with mercenaries roaming streets with snipers #Libya #Feb17

The mercenaries of #Gaddafi have been defeated in the oil-rich city of #Ajdabiya and it is now in the hands of protesters. #Libya #Feb17

A private jet with Gadaffi family members (lebanese daughter in law...) was denied permission to land in Beirut.

Oppositionwebsite Libya al-Youm reports that Gadaffi tried to buy support from the Awlad Ali tribe in Egypt with lybian roots through a relative of his Ahmed Gaddaf al-Dam.
He was denied support.

Swedish paper: Libyan justice minister says has proof Gadhafi ordered Lockerbie bombing

Hague- HMS Cumberland group will arrive off Libya coast tonight with rapid deployment teams.

Hague - We dont rule out sending the military to evacuate British nationals without Libyan permission

Hague - requests all nationals and UK companies with Libyan representation to contact UK Govt urgently.

Situation in Libya very different to Egypt and Tunisia - civil strife with breakdown of law and order

In tripoli, the morgues will only release the bodies to family members, if they sign that they were killed by the revolution youth and NOT by mercenaries !

Gee what a surprise. Just like Mubarak goons did.

Both Al-Arabiya & BBC now reporting that up to 10,000 killed in #Libya so far.


CONFIRMED: Eye-witness reports gun shots in East and West parts of Tripoli

France24 say 450 bodies were found in a school near an hospital in tripoli

Caller on BBC says: its a lot more serious then people are saying, they are bombing peoples houses

Yep, bombing whole neighboorhoods.

AJE: civilian Lybian plane tries to land. Circling around, Malta on high alert.

Italian Navy forming a net around Malta.

AJE : Troops being deployed to runway at Malta Airport. Afraid the people on the plane may not be "friendlies".

DanielFurrUK‎ US President Barack Obama is resisting calls to freeze Gaddafi assets #libya

Another great move by Obama, showing his true colors.

BBCWorld‎ A Libyan government ministry says journalists who have entered Libya illegally are 'outlaws' reports AFP

Half Of Libyan Oil Production, Or 800,000 Barrels, Now Offline

several days late, the African Union finally condemns the violence in Libya. It vows to "dispatch a mission" to Libya. Take that, Moammar!

hundreds of mercenaries killed in Libya after being overrun by protesters at various military bases - AP

Sabha is actually a possible last refuge, especially that it seems mercenaries are being shipped out from there.

6.10pm: Government sources say Muammar Gaddafi's daughter was on board the National Libyan Airlines plane that tried to land in Malta on Thursday, Al Jazeera's Cal Perrry reports from Valletta.

CarolJordanCNN A military aircraft has crashed southwest of #Benghazi after the crew refused to follow orders to bomb the city, #Quryna newspaper reported.

reports are that there are many trying to get out of #Tripoli airport - my friends have been trying to help their expat friends leave
pro gadaffi blocking off airport and taking bribes of 150LYD ($121) to get in to airport

At least it's cheaper than with Mubarak... with Mubarak it was 10 times that.

after airforce defections, word is that Gadaffi has now ordered his navy to shell the cities from off the coast

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof tweets: “#Libya military officer tells me 3 naval ships ordered to sail to Benghazi to attack it. Crew torn about what to do.”

Eye-witness report on Libya Live Radio reports: more than 6 army tanks driving into Tajoura just outside of Tripoli

Amazing: I hear by phone that Tajura, #Libya , less than 10 miles from Tripoli, has fallen. Rebel flag flying over it.

Libya appears unable to use its small stockpile of mustard blister agent against the protesters who threaten to bring down the Qadhafi regime, the Associated Press reported today


mitracnn: The official Libyan news agency website Jana is down. #libya

BBCKimGhattas: #Statedept says charter to evacuate US citizens was not granted permission to land in Tripoli #Libya

‎ Adel Zantani on Aljazeera, live from Azzintan: Estimate that 95% of all tribes in #Libya have abandoned #Gaddafi and joined the revolution.

White House now saying sanctions may be on the table to compel Libya to stop violence.

Sanctions won't do squat.

Islamic scholar on Aljazeera issues a call for general amnesty and protection for anyone who abandons #Gaddafi. #Feb17 #Libya


#Tripoli airport reporting (via LiveATC/Malta) that it has NO parking spaces for aircraft and has closed to incoming aircraft

rawyarageh: #Libya state TV patchy.. Keeps going up and down. What does that mean? #Feb17

land forces are moving east toward #benghazi now approaching #Sirt borders not sure if they're heading to destroy cities or #oilfields

all ports have now been officially closed during the "period of unrest"

Yeah that'll piss off countries who want to evacuate people.

Al Manara reports: eye witness in Tajoora, 15 tanks work for Khamees Batelon followed by mercenaries are headed to Tripoli #libya #feb17

CNN reporter says that at the road blocks and check points, the pro-gov't people are taking people's cell phone SIM cards and destroying them to erase any evidence of wrong doing!

YousefMunayyer: #Libya TV now interviewing people who are praying "for the great leader's victory over Aljazeera" #gadafi

Continue praying, so while you do that, people get closer to Tripoli to hang you, bastards.

Soldiers in Derna shot for refusing to fire at Libyan protesters #libya #feb17 #gaddaficrimes

evanchill: Hillary Clinton reportedly attempted to call #Libya counterpart Moussa Koussa today but technical difficulties in Tripoli made it impossible

What will that do? You cannot resonate with those mentally ill people.

AFP: French doctor in #Libya: Over 2000 killed in Benghazi alone

ALERT 4 Lybians: Reporters reports rows and rows of jeeps in Tripoli full of mercenaries with machine guns. #libya #feb17 #Tripoli

ASAR25 ‎ Jazeera correspondent in Tripoli, according to eyewitnesses | Tajoura surrounded by tanks and hear the sounds of heavy gunfire

dimagnayCNN reporting U.S ship used to evacuate U.S. citizens frm Libya will stay in Tripoli 2night coz of bad weather (diplomatic sources)

Tanks and Gun-fire in Tajura now. #Libya #Tripoli #Feb17

NicRobertsonCNN‎ #Ppl fleeing #Libya also said many ppl in #Tripoli afraid to leave their homes but streets quieter as Gadhafi forces tighten grip on city

CONFIRMED: Eye witness mercenaries all over Tajoora, eye witness in the house says no one can even go near windows #Libya #Feb17

"According to the newspapers military source these are former members of Serbian Special Forces military group called "Red Berets" who was disbanded in 2003 because too many of them were found to have connections with criminals and with the major massacres in Bosnia and Kosovo. The same people who brought us the Srebrenica and Račak massacres are now back in action again.God have mercy on Libyan civilians!"

Serbian mercenaries in Libya...

CONFIRMED: #gaddafi now ordering mercenaries to clean streets of Tripoli, as 2000 start cleaning - preperation for media entry #Libya #Feb17

Algerian pilot claims that #Algeria send 10 airplanes carrying mercenaries to #Tripoli


FreeLibyan87: ppl the previous call for a demo. tomorrow is cancelled #Tajoura area is full of tanks. instead opt for civil disobedience #Libya #Feb17

Aisha, Gaddafi's daughter, has appeared on state television, denying a report she tried to flee to Malta. "I am steadfastly here," she said.

#Benghazi responds to #Gaddafi's "King of Kings of Africa claim": "Monkey of Monkeys of Africa!"

Remember that #Gaddafi issued an ultimatum to tribes: end your rebellion or we'll blow up your oil. #Feb17 #Libya

Note that Tajura, currently under siege by #Gaddafi tanks, is so close to Tripoli that it's practically a suburb. #Feb17 #Libya

Reports of gunfire heard near Bab al Azizia, #Gaddafi's residence/camp in #Tripoli #Feb17 #Libya

#Libya watch out don't joke about this, 2 camps belong 2 his kids full of katusha missiles, in Tajura and Bab Alaziza that can wipe tripoli

Katusha missiles are a joke. This is what Hamas uses on Israel...

bencnn: Workers in Benghazi power plant refused Tripoli's orders to cut electricity to city. Power supply now more reliable than before. #Libya

ShababLibya: CONFIRMED: #gaddafi now ordering mercenaries to clean streets of Tripoli, as 2000 start cleaning - preperation for media entry #Libya #Feb17

Media entry? Probably to say that all the crimes of Gadafi were an invention of US medias or something like that.

Hospitals throughout the capital of #Tripoli have run out of medicines and supplies as wounded #Libyans continue pouring in.

#Gaddafi mercenaries carrying swords sweep through the city and attempt to break into houses. NOW #Tripoli #Libya

Hillary Clinton going to UNHRC on Mon to discuss situation in #Libya. That might be too late for the Libyan ppl


He said that media are going to be shown around by government tomorrow.. and gaddafi is hiding injured and dead people.. #libya #feb17

Gaddafi's regime are taking the bodies lying on the streets of tripoli taken away as well as wounded people kidnapped from the hospitals and taken somewhere we dont know where, and people are made to clean and paint the city of Tripoli.

The pilot of Moammar Ghaddafi's private jet, a Norwegian citizen, has been able to flee Libya with his family. They are now safe in Vienna after fearing for their lives in Libya.....


Israel to let 300 Palestinians return to West Bank from Libya

Caller Personally Confirmed: 1500 young men buried alive in an Underground room in Benghazi | @speak2tweet

Jazeera, I want to deliver this information, I confirmed it personally, on my responsibility. I am a Libyan citizen. Today in Benghazi they discovered a room underground, a room that is completely locked-in. Completely locked. Holding 1500 young men from Benghazi. From the 15th of February the first day of demonstrations to today when they got them out, the 22nd, they had been without food or water. They heard the voices from the barracks, noise, people. After they went to check, they got them out, God be praised, alive. 1500 young men, buried alive, buried alive. Muammar must be obliterated. We will not surrender. Our dead are in heaven, he is in hell. God bear witness that I have delivered this message, if there are any Muslims. God willing.

Sick. And those kind of prisons are all over Libya.
Cuba FM blames US media for Libya violence
Yeah I'm sure the reporters hired those mercenaries. Ridiculous.
Who is propping up Libya?

Unlike in Egypt or Tunisia, it is not the conventional military that holds the balance of power in Libya.

Cables show Libya pressed oil firms to reimburse terror costs

Libya's ruling family tried to coerce billions of dollars from Libyan and foreign oil companies, and its leader Muammar Gaddafi exhorted the United States to sow division in Saudi Arabia, leaked American diplomatic cables reveal.

Duh. A thug will always act like a thug.

Libyan ambassador to Indonesia resigns (DPA)

Turkey evacuates 3,000 citizens from Libya (Reuters)

Report: Journalist critical of Gadhafi regime missing in Libya (DPA)

Aide to Gadhafi's son quits over Libyan violence (Reuters)

India planning to evacuate 18,000 citizens from Libya (DPA)

Report: UK does not rule out use of force to rescue 170 Britons stranded in Libya (Reuters)

Obama on Libya: Bloodshed outrageous and unacceptable and must stop (Haaretz)

Al Jazeera: Protesters 'in control' of Libyan city of Tobruk (DPA)

Report: Qatar's ambassador to Libya leaves the country (Reuters)

U.S. considering freezing assets of Libyan government (Reuters)

Considers? Should have been done days ago.

UN may impose no-fly zone in Libya to deter air strikes against civilians (AP)

MAY being the keyword here....

UN chief: Libya authorities committed wide-scale human rights violations (DPA)

Really you said that? You love stating the obvious uh?

300,000 could flee Libya turmoil, says Italian Foreign Minister (Reuters)

Estimates of 1,000 dead in Libya are credible, says Italian Foreign Minister (Reuters)

That's on the LOW side...more like 2000-3000...
Somalia :

Pirates kill four U.S. hostages near Somalia (AP)

Yemen :

Yemen security forces place port city of Aden under siege, reports Al-Quds Al-Araby (Ch. 10)

India :

50,000 protesters in New Delhi angry at increase in food prices (AP)

Spreading...100 000+ protesters are expected.
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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 11:20 PM
I pray for Gaddafi (and his involved Family) to have a very long and very painful Death...this Man is a inhuman,insane,deranged Psychopath

This Lunatic has ordered a Genocide and the blowing up of Oilfields which is vital for Lybias Economy...Sanctions won´t do #. I see WMD´s going off somewhere if nothing is done to kill this Animal very soon.

I´m getting more and more angry reading everything he does,and i´m mad at our Govts. that don´t do #.

My last hope is,that those Ships are full of Soldiers and Military might to crush this Bastard. Notice how many Nations are sending Military Ships to Lybia to "evacuate" Civilians at the same Time?

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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:37 AM
reply to post by Shenon

Indeed, the guy's a psycho...

Second Suspected Syria Nuclear Site Is Found

A second suspected nuclear installation has been identified in Syria, according to commercial satellite photos, providing new evidence that Damascus may have been pursuing atomic weapons before a 2007 Israeli military strike.

The publishing Wednesday of the photos by Washington's Institute for Science and International Security could increase pressure on the United Nations to demand expansive new inspections of suspect Syrian facilities during a March board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

So... remember those two Iranian ships who just docked in Syria? What if they brought parts for the nuclear facility?


Graphic : video of Gadafi soldiers corpses who have been burned because they did not follow orders to shoot protesters

Now I don't know if he shot them first then light them up... or he light them up while they were alive, but this is still pretty sick.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:17 AM
Every Arab and American should watch this:

WAKE UP AMERICA, WAKE UP THE MIDDLE EAST!!! You are all being duped and the only ones who don't believe it are the Americans because they are sheeple like the Arabs. What does it take for the Americans to wake up? When you become another 3rd world nation??? By then it will be way too late.

Already the USD$ is not being accepted in many nations; it's over. Your dollars are worthless and even us Australians won't touch it now.

This is happening RIGHT NOW.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:24 AM
reply to post by Shenon

Ghaddafi knows whats coming and thats why he cut off oil supplies to Europe.

The tyrant should had gone along time ago however Europe and the USA wants to drop their debt on to the Middle East and scam them, then the globalists plan on leaving the area in complete turmoil. Middle East oil will be no more...and when the USD$ is destroyed by end of 2012, the ME nations will have so much USD$ and it will be worthless.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 03:46 AM
Libya :

Before I go, id like to pick up one point i heard on the radio before i spoke, east libyan locals queuing for guns 2 head to tripoli

Phone services are mostly down in Tripoli. Internet only by satellite. Airport in a mess. Nearly no airport staff working, no ”real” passport control. Fighting around freeway into Tripoli.

Embassy quarter of Tripoli very calm.

Hospitals are overcrowded. Reports of rape cases (more then 100).

ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross) is leaving Tripoli, no one is sure for the moment and there is fear that they will target foreigners…

The situation is real bad when the RED CROSS of all people leaves...

Latest news from Libya: They was a bomb shell 100meter a way from us..they will target foreigners..specially wit the camera.

I have get the information that, Gadafi order to kill who is caring the camera we all know why dont we

British special forces put on standby for possible rescue missions in Libya, sources tell Sky News

Egyptian workers fleeing Libya say anti-Gadhafi militias have seized control of Zuara, 75 miles west of Tripoli - Reuters

Syria :
Satellite images reveal 'uranium conversion plant' in Syria

Uranium facility discovered near Marj as Sultan, close to Damascus, reports 'Sueddeutsche Zeitung'; reactor may be related to al Kibar project bombed by Israel in September 2007.

Syria is suspected of harboring a uranium conversion reactor near the town of Marj as Sultan, near Damascus, according to a publication released Wednesday by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security based on reports by the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung.

Satellite images of the site near Marj as Sultan, obtained by the ISIS, reveal that on July 25, 2008, there was considerable activity involving the pouring of material on the ground as well as trucks and other vehicles that could have been related to the operation.

The ISIS document said this could have been part of a plan to lay down concrete or asphalt, which could be "an attempt to defeat the environmental sampling that IAEA inspectors would likely carry out to see if uranium was present in the event of a visit to these suspect sites."

The ISIS document cites information from Sueddeutsche Zeitung revealing that among the equipment kept inside two buildings near the Marj as Sultan site, there was a scrubber, two cyclone separators, large diameter pipes, a manifold, reaction vessels made from stainless steel, and storage tanks.

This equipment is in line with "what would be expected in a small uranium conversion facility," the ISIS report said.

Now this whole report smells funny. The timing of it... the pics were taken ON JULY 25 2008... 3 years ago... and they report it NOW... the day after Iranian ships dock in Syria... yeah total coincidence. This stinks of war propaganda.

There could be nothing real in the building... it could be a normal building... just claims that's it's an uranium enrichment facility... it wouldn't be their first ``mistake``... yeah mistake... that's it... like WMDs in Iraq... was all a mistake.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 03:54 AM
Mo and his wanna be imperial family is about to become history if he was stupid enough to piss appoff the Chinese and everyone else they deserve what is about to happen.V,I can't say this enough this thread is incredible and I am most impressed with the contributors who filled in when you took a much needed break.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 03:56 AM
reply to post by mike dangerously

Thanks, and it wasn't much of a break.
I still posted about other issues. But the killings in Libya just made me sick and I just couldn't think about it or post about it... it was depressing me too much.

Anyway, more news.
Libya :

Warfalla tribe prepares attack against Tripoli to free the city #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17

Hopefully this is soon the fall of Tripoli and the end of that bastard.

AJELive: 7 reported killed, 40 injured as #Gaddafi forces storm Az-Zawiyah in #Libya. More on #AlJazeera's liveblog: 31 seconds ago · reply

German news reporting al-Sawija (southwest of Tripoli) has been attacked by Gaddafi supporting thugs. Many dead.

Iran :
And I don't think I posted this ... back on February 15...
Russia can no longer support future sanctions against Iran - Lavrov

Russia will not support future sanctions against Iran, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in London on Tuesday.

"With the approval of Resolution 1929 in [June] last year, practical possibilities to impose sanctions on those related - even indirectly - to the Iranian nuclear program have been exhausted," Lavrov said at a news conference with his British counterpart William Hague.

"Further sanctions would mean the suppression of the Iranian economy and creation of social problems for the population," Lavrov said. "We cannot support this."

+1 Sanctions should hurt the leadership, not the people. That's why sanctions against North Korea about food is ridiculous and literally MURDERING them. But eh, like the elite cares about people.
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Bahrain :
The Gulf's terror of democracy

There's a specter haunting the Persian Gulf: democracy.

This Tuesday, no less than 20% of the population of Bahrain poured into the Lulu (Pearl) roundabout in Manama in its biggest anti-feudal monarchy demonstration intimately connected to the great 2011 Arab revolt. A whole cross-section of Bahraini society - teachers, lawyers, engineers, their wives and children - rolled along in a wide, unbroken column of red and white, the colors of the national flag.

Saudi Arabia :

This Wednesday, there were reasons to believe the revolt was finally hitting the holy grail, ie, the House of Saud, as 100 youngsters hit the streets of Hafar al-Batin, in northeast Saudi Arabia, calling for the end of its drenched-in-oil feudal monarchy. What's extraordinary is that this happened as "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques" Saudi King Abdullah, 85, was returning home after three months following surgery in the US and convalescence in Morocco - amid massive regime propaganda, complete with Orientalist touches such as men in white robes doing traditional Bedouin sword dances on special carpets.

The guy is 85! He's about to die... by protests or natural death, the guy will soon be gone!
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 05:50 AM
Libya :

Most of Libya is liberated... only Tripoli remains in Qaddafi's hands. Troops from the UK-Germany-US will be on the ground in Libya today, protecting areas, evacuating people. Regular soldiers to protect ports while special forces help evacuations.

And it seems that even if Qaddafi

Loyalist elements still in town. Benghazi's fear Ghaddafi's last act of vengeance is not far away.

Saif Al Islam now on TV: "The world is conspiring against #Libya" "Nilesat has cut the signal of Libyan TV"

Chinese oil company CNPC says its Libyan facilities have been attacked, and it is evacuating workers.

Gaddafi forces blast a mosque minaret with anti-aircraft weaponry in Az-Zawiyah during ongoing attack on protesters, says the AP news agency.

reports of 3 German naval warships in waters between #Malta & #Libya, carrying 600+ soldiers. Task unclear !


Gadaffi releasing prisoners from jails with offers of cash to support his mercenaries

Like Mubarak.

Gadaffi threatens human shield policy against NATO intervention

Yeah now he's done it.

I hear by phone that Tajura, #Libya , less than 10 miles from Tripoli, has fallen. Rebel flag flying over it.


Gadaffi forces mounting a counter offensive with tanks and bombing at Misrata but #Libya - centre of Misrata remains under control of anti- #Gaddafi forces -witness #Reuters

Gadaffi's aide and cousin flees to Egypt - AP

Al Arabiya: The International Criminal Court says that the President of Chad tried to send troops into #Libya to support Gaddafi

Gadaffi believed to have left Tripoli and moved west 40kms to Zawhia

Saudi Arabia says it is "ready and willing" to make up for any shortfall in oil production caused by the uprising in Libya, says Reuters.

Make it fast please.

Several reported dead in the latest attack on Misurata, Reuters reports.

Qaddafi is about to fall... but it seems that even if Qaddafi would be gone right now, this ain't over. This ain't like Egypt. Towns who have fallen to ``rebels`` are turning into anarchy. In Egypt, people had solidarity and were policing themselves... it's not happening in Libya.

Tribes are fighting with each other, militias are being created and there's conflict between militias from different tribes and even tribes fighting their own tribes.

Yemen :

8 members of the Yemeni parliament quit, calling for democracy


HMS Cumberland about to arrive at Benghazi for evacuations, despite official port closure

Will dock in the next 15 minutes.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:24 AM
Gaddafi talking right now...

2.17pm: Gaddafi is talking at long last. He starts off in bizarre fashion, accusing protesters of drinking pills that make them commit "animal acts". He says the protesters have been brainwashed by Osama bin Laden, whose people have been giving protesters these pills.

2.21pm: There are no images of Gaddafi, just his disembodied voice on Al-Jazeera, adding to the surreal nature of the occasion. While his regime crumbles, he's talking about kids taking pills. It really is like Nero fiddling while Rome burns.

2.24pm: He is again blaming al-Qaida for turning Libya's "youngsters and children" against the regime. He says there are only a few "inciters" who also happen to be against the west. Is this a cack-handed appeal to gain western sympathy? If so it's an odd way of going about things, which will merely confirm Gaddafi's tenuous grasp on reality.

2.27pm: Now that the oil has stopped, says Gaddafi, how will the people survive. Will bin Laden support the people, he asks. How are people going to buy cars, get married or buy goods that were cheaply available, he goes on. Maybe there will be a "revision of salaries and other incomes".

Hope the Translator gets trough this without weeping...sure sounds like it. Poor Guy...

Edit: I wonder what drugs he takes...pretty heavy Stuff i guess...seriously,this guy is completely insane.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:39 AM
He stopped,thank God,this was even more weird than his last Speech.

2.32pm: He's blaming bin Laden for Iraq and Afghanistan as well. "All they want is to kill your kids, that's what bin Laden wants, he should be happy now, that's what he wants," says Gaddafi. Again he says Libyans should take responsibility for the country as he has handed power to them through people's committees.

2.29pm: I am trying to show you parental advice, says Gaddafi adopting a father of the nation tone. He now compares himself to the Queen saying he is in a similar position to her. He cannot make rules, only offer advice. He is returning to the "hallucination pills" that young Libyans are supposed to be ingesting. More Queen comparisons. He does not have the authority to impose rules on the people. "I have become more of a symbolic leader".

2.37pm: Gaddafi says he doesn't know when the violence will come to an end but urges parents to take away the "guns from the kids" and arrest those behind the violence. He wonders whether bin Laden will compensate the victims' families. Gaddafi also mentions bin Laden's theoretician, al-Zawahiri. His monologue has come to an end. He spoke for about half an hour. It was an extraordinary rant, trying to blame bin Laden and jihadists, who he said had given hallucination pills to young Libyans. It will confirm that Gaddafi is totally out of touch if he really believed in what he was saying.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:43 AM
reply to post by Shenon

Oy vey....

By the way- What's with the mispronunciation of the name? Ghadaffi, Gadafi, etc...

Muamar Qadafi, moo'ah'mah'r Qah'dah'fee, the A is like an ah or ha sound (without the h), not an eh sound.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by Shenon

Oy vey....

By the way- What's with the mispronunciation of the name? Ghadaffi, Gadafi, etc...

Muamar Qadafi, moo'ah'mah'r Qah'dah'fee, the A is like an ah or ha sound (without the h), not an eh sound.

I think everyone writes it different. Those Quotes are from the Guardian Live-Blog btw.

Funny thing is,CNN showed like 5 Minutes of his Speech,made a short Comment on it and cut away to different Topics. Didnt hear what they say,but i think the Translator just gave up or they got tired of his inate Ramblings. I could understand both,hehe.

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:03 AM

3.54pm: Reuters has a detail from Muammar Gaddafi's speech that we did not pick up on earlier:

Muammar Gaddafi ... said the protesters were fuelled by milk and Nescafe spiked with hallucinogenic drugs ...

"Their ages are 17. They give them pills at night, they put hallucinatory pills in their drinks, their milk, their coffee, their Nescafe," said Gaddafi.

Uhm,Vitchilo,look at this...2010-2011 Worldwide protests - Wikipedia

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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Qaddafi is about to fall... but it seems that even if Qaddafi would be gone right now, this ain't over. This ain't like Egypt. Towns who have fallen to ``rebels`` are turning into anarchy. In Egypt, people had solidarity and were policing themselves... it's not happening in Libya.

Tribes are fighting with each other, militias are being created and there's conflict between militias from different tribes and even tribes fighting their own tribes.

Thanks for the updates. You oughta get a medal from ATS for your efforts.

Libya is certainly not like Egypt. In Egypt and Tunisia, the military had largely kept a hands off approach to the revolution, and thus could be trusted for objectivity on the political issue.

But ufortunately in Libya, large swarthes of the military commanders remained loyal to the Beast, and had instructed their men, largely foreigners to murder their own countrymen. Thankfully, a few in the military disobeyed, but far too few. Thus the military is not trusted, and in their absence, the power grabs by tribes starts, for Libya had no civilised civilian administration infrastructure in place, for the beast trusted no one and his cabinet were rubber stamping buffoons.

The anarchy may last slightly longer even when the beast is eliminated. During this interim, there should be NO foreign troops in Libya, or they will be held liable by contesting tribal groups for taking sides. This is vital and critical. This is not a time to play heroes. The world will instead become villians.

Better thing to do is for the UN to call for a halt to the tribal power grabs, invite each and every tribal leader at UN's expense to Geneva, and let them discuss and debate amongst themselves on how they can compromise, share power and alleviate/elevate the lives of the suffering Libyans.

The world stands ready to help, but self determination must be Libya's fundamental right and initiation.

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