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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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No, I totally agree----that's what I was saying, we're getting evidence that it's the government forces and not citizens, but even if it were the citizens, the fact that the gov is letting the looters do their thing is telling.

I'm going to edit my post about this----I was totally unclear with what I was saying!
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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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I was quite disturbed to find out about the looting of the Antiquity Museum and the deterioration (or was it destruction?) of 2 mummies.


The Egyptian military could follow the Tunisian military by refusing orders to shoot at demonstrators or impose the curfew


First part was confirmed by some officers and generals in the Egyptian Army.


The military can replace Mubarak with a temporary emergency governing council or leave it for civilian opposition groups to form government in consultation with the military



For the military to be the guardian of the state's sovereignty and stalbility, it must be the protector of Egypt's future politics, not its permamnent leader.


english.aljazeera.net...

Very well said.


Worldwide:


A search for "Egypt'' on the Sina microblogging service brings up a message saying, "According to relevant laws, regulations and policies, the search results are not shown".


english.aljazeera.net...

Even China is afraid, and for good reason.




Protests have been taking place on a nearly daily basis in Sanaa since mid-January calling for an end to Saleh's rule which began in 1978.
Saleh was re-elected in September 2006 for a seven-year mandate. A draft amendment of the constitution, under discussion in parliament despite opposition protests, could allow him - if passed - to remain in office for life.
Saleh had urged the opposition which rejected the amendment, to take part in April 27 parliamentary elections to avoid "political suicide."


english.aljazeera.net...

More shenanigans in Yemen



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Egyptian troops, have fled the Gaza border, possibly leaving it under Hamas control.....



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Great work as always people!!!!!!

Wouldn't surprise me if it were government thugs doing MOST of the looting and raping. I mean, after all, they work for the Mubarak regime, torture, rape, kill unarmed protesters and kill children.

A lot of time, in this kind of regime, the worst of the worst join the government police forces/army so they can rule over people and do whatever they want. It's happening in lots of countries, even here in the western world when you see plenty of cases of cops dealing drugs, killing and stealing money and when they get caught, they just get a ``desk`` job.




Egypt25Jan: In #Tanta, families arrest thugs holding "Secret Police IDs", they handed them to the army



Urgent| Aljazeera: Fertilizers factory set on fire in #Alexandria. People should be aware of the fumes.



Security alert in the cities of eastern Libya

They fear an uprising.


Muhammad el-Baradei says that if he were to be president he would recognize Hamas as ruler of the Gaza Strip

That is an interesting development. Hamas, after all, won the election in 2006.


Dostor: Hamas Authorities are protecting the egyptian borders after the egyptian security vacuum



Nesreen Salem CONFIRMED: The looting, stealing and raping of women is the work of Omana2 elshurta almasriya - they have been given orders by Amn Eldowla to burn down the police stations, release the prisoners (who now have no records) onto the public to exhaust them all night guarding their belongings, so they're too tired in the morning to protest.


And now SUDAN :

Sudanese youth have been actively using online media to garner support for their planned demonstration on Sunday, 30 January, hoping to replicate the scenarios of the successful Tunisian revolution and the unfolding protests in Egypt.


And this was filmed over Jerusalem yesterday...

Weird uh?
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Al Jazeera: Libyan leader Gaddafi & Palestinian President Abbas call Mubarak to voice support

Even Abbas... if he hadn't seal his fate already... it's now done.


Bedouin taking over near Gaza border

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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Looks like police has changed their status from security forces to criminal gangs in 24 hours - I see this is very cruel tactic, but maybe effective also - against rioting public to get them ask, to want wide police presence back to Cairo streets... Mubarak is looks to stay in power, and war is on from hearts and minds.

Army needs to shape up their stance - and I see that suddenly "melted" police is a great threat to public.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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I agree they need to make an example of these looters arrest them in public for all to see or whatever just do something.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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@AlArabiya_Eng: BREAKING: 700 prisoners escape from #Fayoum prison, Egypt



Reuters: senior police officer has been kidnapped in Damietta



BBC Arabic: Tens of thousands of protesters are still in Central Cairo. Women & men are organising snacks. It's 00:30 am in Egypt now



Al Jazeera: From the German news agency: 19 private planes have just departed Cairo Airport carrying Egyptian & Arab businessmen & families



Al Jazeera: Death of Major General Mohammed El-Batran, . of the Investigative Unit at Fayoum Central Jail & 700 of prisoners flee.



call for protest in libya on feb 11



call for protest in syria feb 5



call for renewed protest in algeria feb 12



call for renewed protest in yemen feb 3



Philippine diplomats prepare to leave Egypt amid violence



Kuwait offers free flights from Egypt



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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11:06pm Cairo neighborhoods are being policed by local residents wielding kitchen knives and hunting rifles, after the military called for civilians to protect their own property.

10:42pm Gunfire has been heard coming from the direction of the interior ministry in Cairo during a confrontation between guards and protesters, and the National Press Building next to the NDP .quarters is on fire.


blogs.aljazeera.net...



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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When you protect your home with a kitchen knife... you're pretty scared.

Obama Administration Cut Funding To Promote Democracy In Egypt, Disappointing Human Rights Activists

In its first year, the Obama administration cut funding for democracy and governance programming in Egypt by more than half, from $50 million in 2008 to $20 million in 2009 (Congress later appropriated another $5 million). The level of funding for civil society programs and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) was cut disproportionately, from $32 million to only $7 million. Though funding levels for 2010 are not yet available, they are expected to show an increase to $14 million, says Stephen McInerny, the director of advocacy at the Project on Middle East Democracy. He notes that the Bush administration slashed economic aid to Egypt in the 2009 budget but kept the funding for democracy and governance programs constant, while Obama cut funding to those programs in an effort to make the cuts more proportional and under pressure from the American embassy in Cairo.


But eh, now the MSM is trying to say that Obama secretly supported the resistance. GIVE ME A BREAK.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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I have an idea this is going to turn into one of the most epic threads ever to grace ATS. This spirit of revolution it appears to me is going to spread like an uncontrollable wildfire across the mid-east,maybe even the world. Vitchilo I'm afraid your title will end up being prophetic.




Sudanese activists now have full copy of mass action strategy guide used by Egyptian protesters, is.gd... #Jan25


And a link to the story.

www.guardian.co.uk... st-leaflets-mass-action?CMP=twt_fd

Looks like I'm going to be in for many sleepless nights as I just cant tear myself away from these historic changes happening in the world. Guess I better send away for some no-doze.

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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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President Mubarak's two sons, Gamal and Aala, reportedly arrived in London a few hours ago: aje.me... #jan25 #egypt 19 minutes ago via web


Fleeing?


#egypt police have melted away, no presence on streets. reports that thug elmnts of plainclothes police invld in looting #jan25 (viaphone) 14 minutes ago via web


More reports of rogue police officers.


#egypt prison of 1000 stormed by ppl trying 2 free prisoners, high rankng prisonguard killed #jan25 (via phone)



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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Oh my bad I thought you were saying the opposite, my apologies...But yea in regards to your other post it's weird how on CNN they say unrest and chaos but if it were North koreans doing this they would be called heros..totally agree they should change the .line to what you suggested...i wonder if or when mubarack will finally listen to the people of Egypt



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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HOLY S###, Vitchilo!, WTF is THAT? That video just blew my mind. I would LOVE to hear the military explanation for that!



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Yep MSM doesn't ``lie`` a lot, they MOSTLY SPIN the story...

And the UFO video... there's a debate about it on ATS in the UFO forum. Here's the thread... one thing is sure, no plane or missile or drone, that we know of, can do this kind of flying.

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Vitchilo I'm afraid your title will end up being prophetic.

Actually I asked a mod to change the title... Since the original title of this thread was : ``Israel about to go in Lebanon/Iran?`` ...


Crowd drags two looters to Army soldiers at State TV...after beating them senseless



Vodafone restored voice services to our customers in Egypt this morning, as soon as we were able.


About the new appointed VP :

3:25 From @WLLegal on Egyptian strong man: "Omar Suleiman's role in the CIA's rendition/torture program from Stephen Grey's book Ghost Plan
And: "In The Dark Side, Jane Mayer wrote that Omar Suleiman, Egypt's new VP, coordinated the CIA rendition/torture program.


Egypt shutdown worst in Internet history: experts

"It's a first in the history of the Internet," Rik Ferguson, an expert for Trend Micro, the world's third biggest computer security firm, told AFP.

Julien Coulon, co-founder of Cedexis, a French Internet performance monitoring and traffic management system, added: "In 24 hours we have lost 97 percent of Egyptian Internet traffic.

According to Renesys, a US Internet monitoring company, Egypt's four main Internet service providers cut off international access to their customers in a near simultaneous move at 2234 GMT on Thursday.

Quite crazy.

TENS of thousands of demonstrators have started a silent protest in the Albanian capital Tirana, a week to the day after clashes during an opposition rally killed three.


Apparently some looters attacked an hospital where they have kids with cancer, and the doctors were protecting the kids using Molotov cocktails against the looters... that is some crazy stuff. Here the doctors would probably run to the hills or hide behind a desk or something.
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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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Bedouins are pissed.

Egypt's Turmoil: The Army's OK with the Protesters, for Now


And a prominent Bedouin smuggler in the Sinai peninsula told TIME that Bedouin are now in control of the two towns closest to the Gaza Strip, and that they planned to press on to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not step down. He also said that police stations in the south Sinai would be attacked if Bedouin prisoners were not released.


If they attack the Suez Canal... big economic doom for us.


Events could trigger sell-off

Analysts were busy updating their predictions for the dollar, oil, gas, gold, the Israeli stock market and the Israeli bond market, in the wake of the spreading Egyptian protests.

"After months of gains, the stock market is looking for a trigger for sell-offs and it could come from Egypt," said Zvi Stepak, the . investment manager at Meitav. "In previous crises, we saw investors shifting to more secure assets like gold and government bonds. If the situation in Egypt doesn't settle, we'll see price drops for stops and corporate bonds, which are considered more risky," he said


RAMALLAH: Israeli forces on Saturday attacked the funeral of Palestinian teen in the West Bank town of Beit Ommar leaving 40 mourners wounded.

Palestinian security sources said that the Israeli fired live ammunition, rubber-coated metal bullets, stun grenades and tear gas to disperse the participants in the funeral of 17-year-old Yousef Ikhleil.

The sources said the Palestinians’ sustained injuries from live ammo, burns and from gas inhalation. Israeli Army Radio said that Palestinian teens threw firebombs and stones at an Israeli military post near Beit Ommar during Ikhleil’s funeral.

Something is brewing in the West Bank.

Egyptian protestors take over police station west of Suez
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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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I think somebody needs to send FALSE FOX NEWS a link to this thread so they can get their story straight. The spin is out of this world. I have a whole new opinion of fox news after these last few days,I wouldnt vote for Huckabee were he the only one running after his lies and falsehoods.

The ptb had better get on the boat, with all the new digital communication tools available to the people spin just makes them look stupid at best, dangerous at worst. They are far from journalists far far removed from journalists.




posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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See, I don't get this----isn't Fox the "Freedom Train"? Don't they totally love the thought of spreading democracy across the world? Why would they do anything but support this bid for freedom and true democracy----unless it was unprofitable for them? On that note, anyone know how discrediting and squashing this uprising could be a good and profitable thing for Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal of Saudi Arabia? He's the biggest owner of News Corp besides the Murdoch family.

Sucks about Huckabee, too, because he seems so two-faced. He goes on the Daily Show and is a really cool guy, who definitely disagrees with Jon Stewart but isn't a d-bag about it and seems reasonable. Then he goes on Fox and spouts a bunch of atrocious BS. I don't get it. Most hypocrites stay off the Daily Show.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Is this as huge as I think it is? I believe it is,this is a game changer folks.

Catherine Hill-Herndon for reason 1.4 (d ). 1. (C) Summary and

comment: On December 23, April 6 activist xxxxxxxxxxxx expressed

satisfaction with his participation in the December 3-5 "Alliance of

Youth Movements Summit," and with his subsequent meetings with USG

officials, on Capitol Hill, and with think tanks


Its over folks, its all over, it looks to me the US is behind this and this is HUGE. And now the world,including Israel will know.



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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Bedouins are pissed.

Egypt's Turmoil: The Army's OK with the Protesters, for Now


And a prominent Bedouin smuggler in the Sinai peninsula told TIME that Bedouin are now in control of the two towns closest to the Gaza Strip, and that they planned to press on to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not step down. He also said that police stations in the south Sinai would be attacked if Bedouin prisoners were not released.


If they attack the Suez Canal... big economic doom for us.


How do the Bedouins feel about Gaza? Are they any more for their freedom than anyone else? Is there a possibility they could go into Gaza to try to help start an uprising there too? Or is that a can of worms they don't particularly want to deal with?



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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I'm getting a 404? Is this the thing from Wikileaks about the one kid going to protester traing in the US and meeting with some officials or whatever? If it's the same, it appears to me that he was already in knowledge of a pre-existing plan for revolution and only told us about it, not that we planned anything or did anything besides get the kid training? We do that all the time, for literally every single country we're not BFFs with.

If this is different, my apologies. I can't wait to read the link!



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