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Originally posted by ClintK
Sigh...why do I have to educate you people every time?
A U.S. President CANNOT overturn an ammendment to the U.S. constitution. Period. It requires a 2/3rds majority of BOTH houses and that's just to start. Then it goes to the states and it reqires 3/4ths of the states. It only takes 13 states to NOT approve the ammendment and it's a no-go.
That's what happened to the Equal Rights ammentment. It passed with a 2/3rds majority of both houses but it couldn't get approval from 3/4ths of the states and there's a time limit on those things.
And it takes an ammendment to repeal an ammendment, like the 21st repealed the 18th (probibition).
When people float this nonsense --Obama is going to overturn the 2nd ammendment-- it' clear they are completely ignorant of how laws are made in their own country.
All it does is get ignorant people all upset, which frankly makes it clear it was done to serve a political agenda.
Originally posted by Dramey
how long do you really think the cops will last in that situation
how long do you really think cops can keep control if its only them and criminals with weapons
banks, malls, public buildings will be robbed by armed criminals on a daily basis
i say go ahead, make em illegal and watch what happens
Originally posted by WTFover
reply to post by skull_bones
You beat me to the punch with this one. The thing people need to understand is that it only takes 5 (five) people to make the private ownership of firearms a crime. Some here have said it will never happen. I hope that is true, but fear there is much evidence to the contrary. I will concur that the criminalization of firearms and the actual disarmament of the people is two different things and recognize that the first is simple and the second is bloody.
Originally posted by redoubt
It has been the pipe dream of many to disarm America. That a new effort should come along is nothing unexpected.
The problem lies in actually doing something like this in a way that doesn't fracture the union into many segments. But of course, that fracturing may well be part of the plan.
One poll that I saw several years ago was that 7-in-10 Americans (who own firearms) believe enough in the Constitutional intent for that arming, that they would defy any order to disarm.
If the SCOTUS were to so foolishly hand down a ruling that trashed part of the Constitution in favor of disarming the nation, we could well see some degree of insurrection. The nation has been through quite a lot and done so all quite gracefully. But there is a limit to everyone and everything.
There seems very little point to destroying what has worked so well for so long unless it would be to promote the rise of another nation or order. In fact, it the the US that stands today between a one world government from being successful.
But all of this being as it may be, the larger truth is that creating any kind of chaos or disorder that could lead to something like martial law, would also cripple the world's financial markets.
It's all madness unless it is madness that you are trying to achieve.
Originally posted by Dometheus
I liked this so much I printed it out, and had it on the wall. Came from ATS somewhere.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FREE MEN!
Remember this above all else...
You are not allowed to be RULED!
Your constitution forbids it!
Great men have DIED for you to have this right!
The idea of your governing structure is to ALWAYS maintain POWER within the hands of the PEOPLE...
If the people no longer feel "represented" by their elected officials THEY HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT AND OBLIGATION TO REMOVE THEM!
This is WHY your constitution provides you the right to bear arms.
* YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SUBJECTS!
* NO MAN IS SUPPOSED TO RULE YOU!
* YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO FEAR YOU!
* YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RULED BY YOU!
* YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FREE MEN!
* It's high time you all STOP ACTING LIKE SUBJECTS and START ACTING LIKE FREE MEN!
* YOU HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT NOT TO BE SUBJUGATED! USE IT OR LOSE IT!
Sorry it is so big, just wanted youall to remember it. I for one will neve give up my gun.