A moving video from Democrats

Now if this truly is from Democrats, they now feel like brothers in arms.

Found the video while browsing Market Ticker, pretty much sums up what we're all feeling.

According to KD Youtube keeps taking the video down, so someone posted the video on their website here: www.joeseales.com...

S&F

Downloading it. Posting to YouTube. Sending to all friends and subscribers. Will post to ALL of my different accounts and websites.

Thanks for the vid.

Says it all, almost.

Revolution if they like it or........

That was their attitude, I have mine.

Wow, this is a very moving subject. Socialism will never dominate America, not as long as there are true American patriots with one single breathe left in them. I will never become part of that system.

LIVE FREE OR DIE!

That was a pretty stupid video in my opinion. I agreed with everything up until the point they said Socialism. This crap isn't Socialism this is Corporatism with a very corrupt and evil governemnt. There is nothing Socialist about it except for the redistribution but that is taking Socialism and reversing it because they are giving that money to the rich. This is CORPORATISM not SOCIALISM. WHat is wrong with you libertarians why can't you understand this?

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Excuse me sir, but as of right now the USA is quasi-socialist. The definition of socialism is when the government owns all means of commerce. Right now the government owns Auto companies, and parts of banks, making us socialist.

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They do not own these companies they own a part of them. If it was truly socialist there would be no CEO of any company and we would own all of these companies which would give the government absolute control. This is obviously not happening we are only giving money to the corporate fat cats and getting nothing in return.

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I will have to agree with you on the socialism issue here.

This a whole new form of corporate fascism. Labels, aren't they so nice. Let us just all agree to call it the standard screw the taxpayer regime.

We can all agree on that can't we? Screw the American people whenever they can.

Pass legislation that the unions that support them do not fall under. Exempt themselves from the same laws they pass on us. And we are all here arguing over semantics.

Simply frelling brilliant.

The title of this thread is misleading... and all logic goes downhill from there:

So, let's review a little history:

The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit -- and projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade. During eight years in office, the Bush administration passed two major tax cuts skewed to the wealthiest Americans, enacted a costly Medicare prescription-drug benefit and waged two wars, without paying for any of it.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Normally the edicts a president or a congress makes take years to take effect. Try launching a large project in a corporation today, it takes a good few months to get it off the ground, let alone to see long term results. We're lucky if the efforts of one president show results in his term, except if it is of such massive scale involving Trillions of dollars. If anything the last financial crisis was caused by an overheated economy, where government forced banks to give loans to unqualified people causing a ponzi scheme in real estate and securities.

The body of congress is to blame. The same connivers have been there for decades gaming the system and causing massive material damage to the country.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Dbriefed]

This crap isn't Socialism this is Corporatism

Yes, this word Socialism is being used all around but it does not describe the situation one bit. The BAIL OUT was of the CORPORATIONS/BANKS. The little guy was not in this for a moment. He owns nothing that the bailed out entities have.

So lets use words correctly or the message will be lost.

This is what the Socialists in UK say is socialism

A genuine socialist government would nationalise the major banks and finance houses as a key to controlling the economy. This would be the only way to avoid the catastrophic effects of a meltdown of the finance sector. To be effective, bank nationalisation would have to be carried out in conjunction with the nationalisation of the commanding heights of the economy, the major manufacturing monopolies, construction companies and transportation. Compensation would be paid to small investors on the basis of proven need. Nationalised companies would not be run by City financiers and big-business directors, but by democratically elected boards of management, with democratic workers’ control. Then it would be possible to develop democratic, socialist planning of production in order to meet the needs of the overwhelming majority of society.

I found it here

Northern Rock Bailout

Yes, better description is "We get the profit, you get the losses" -ism

When the government nationalizes corporations, that is Socialism. When the government allows corporations to fail, that's Capitalism.

The word 'Systemic' has been thrown about frequently by TPTB. Systemic refers to The System which is comprised of; The Fed, the Treasury, financial organizations, major corporations; 'The System'.

Applying Socialism allowed The System to survive.

The System = The Matrix, it trains you how to maintain it, it controls how you live, punishes you for not conforming, keeps you from changing your social level, takes money you make, owns the money you save, owns the assets you bought.

Do forget about labels.

What really matters is how we can put food on our tables right now. Many are starving or soon to starve when savings dry up as it eventually will.

If we continue to bicker on semantics, not only us, but our children will starve or be sent to senssless wars.

Socialism, communism, capitalism or democracy, the masses MUST be represented and served for their interest and not for the interest of the minority few. That's what and how civilisation and societies must operate upon - freedom of speech, freedom from hunger, freedom from illiteracy and freedom from diseases for each and everyone with NONE left behind if we as a society can help him/her.

If we, this educated generation and masses, still don't get it, we will not only doom ourselves but the innocent next generations as well.

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I was waiting for the Credits at the end.

" BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FOUNDING CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA"

It's obviously NOT a video made by democrats, since the Bear Sterns and AIG failures happened in 2008. Republicans are the only group that believes the financial meltdown, 'government takeovers', jobs crisis and recession started in 2009. It's way too easy to put together an internet video and claim you are "insert party affiliation here". Don't get suckered by this tactic.



[edit on 1/24/2010 by mythatsabigprobe]

Wow, anyone that believes that this video was made by a democrat, or liberal, is being deceived. Even the terms being used are literal talking points of the conservative right. The things being brought up are all things that agree completely with the Republican Right, many of which are in direct opposition to basic liberal leanings.

This is nothing more than a video, created by someone or some group on the right attempting to pose themselves as a disgruntled democratic left in hopes of creating the illusion that Obama has lost both the left, and the right and they are all alone, with no support. This can not be farther from the truth.

I probably didn't have to point this out, as may of you probably were able to pick up on the deception right away, this is ATS after all.

This is most likely corporate disinformation propaganda that hopes to maintain the corporate welfare state they have created.

Well, I might as well post the letter to the Republicans video.



It seems the America of old is being called out and told to stand together or we will surely fall if we do not.