need help demon / alien

ok im not really sure about this but recently ive had sleep paralysis quite often maybe about 3 times a week and the other night i was asleep felt something touch my head i woke up instantly and could not move i managed to move my hand and felt like a grabbed a beings wrinkly wrist about 10 seconds later it touched my head again and i had a fit n fell back to sleep

also recently my bed has been shaking quite alot and its gets abit scary have to sleep with a pillow over my head because it seems as if something touches my head???

what does everybody think have you heard of this before??

[edit on 16/8/1991 by tdrowe2008]

"...recently ive had sleep paralysis...."

Sounds like you've answered it. Not aliens. Not demons. Sometimes what you feel isn't what's happening.

Sleep well, friend.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by Jeremy_Vaeni]

yes i no about the sleep paralysis explanation but alot of times it happens im not paralysed my bed definately shakes wen im closin my eyes about to go asleep sometimes i to scared to go to sleep

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Sleep paralysis can be scary. I know it's hard but try to stay calm when it happens and don't fight it, you know what it is and it won't hurt you in any way.

Sleep tight

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Having been a sufferer of reoccurring sleep paralysis as a teenager I think one thing is always very consistent when it afflicted me.

A feeling of an overpowering breath taking presence and a feeling of physical insecurity were the main consistencies I can remember. A more powerful episode would cause sensations - you feel like you were touched or that you touched something.

I think your mind is playing tricks on you and something I would advise is to stare right back into that abyss and give it your war face the next time it happens – That is how I beat it (I was sick of feeling like a victim).

Of course if it is an entity of some type then you will either scare it away or give it a knee jerk reason to divest you of your liver.
Good luck!

Well given you account it will be kind of hard to explain this as sleep paralysis. i've had things like this happen to me, and its NOT sleep paralysis.

Well, tdrowe2008, are there any smells, difference in the room at the time this happens, besides the sensations?

sounds very freaky. have you had other experiences with the paranormal?

Sleep paralysis results when (in laymans terms) your mind/conscious awakens before your body does. Your awake, but can't move. Still in a semi dream-state, you may see or feel sometning or someone in the room...ie the Old Hag, an Alien, etc. If this is it, you need to monitor your habits prior to sleep...avoid caffines, liquids, maybe some relaxing music...whatever to encourage a deep and peaceful sleep.
If it is indeed demons, I suggest prayer and maybe reading and quoting scripture prior to sleep...call upon the Lord Jesus to wrap His loving arms around you, and like a small child, give you peace. Again, this habit and prayer will have the benefit of peaceful sleep.

theres this feeling only way i can describe it is sixth sense you no that feeling if somebody walks in the door or the door opens nd you get that feeling

well i get that at night which makes me beileve there is a being presence n i put the tv back on

and ive never had any major experiences besides seeing a ufo and when i was about 7 i used to cry at night because i beileved that i had been abducted but my mum assured me they are not real im 18 now been researchin about everything everyday i have a habit to no everything about everything

[edit on 16/8/1991 by tdrowe2008]

Interesting.

It's not a topic I post on much at all, I do try to steer clear because of previous personal experiences (with my children being affected); but being that this thing has followed me to several addresses and I too have suffered sleep paralysis which I used to as a child and more and more often the last few weeks it's something I can absolutely relate.

It's a most personal experience. Once you've felt, heard and seen whatever it is that is 'haunting' you it stays with you forever. Feel free to see my earlier thread on the topic that haunts me... and as I said the one topic I mostly steer clear of... but your post sounds so so similar to my experiences, I'd actually be interested in hearing what others have to say.

The best advice I can give is to confront it while you're awake and aware. Make sure it knows it's in your space and your in control of your feelings toward it. As for the paralysis I'm sure its related but so far I've been unable to find any useful information outside of the usual REM/Lucid dream state theories. I'm not sure how it is with you but I've been paralysed and fully awake for over ten minutes before. There's been times when the weight often associated with it isn't mental, it shifts my bedsheets as it adjusts and I'm unable to do anything about it.

After 3 years of this transferring an interest in my daughter to myself I'm just grateful that it doesnt want anything from her and purely seeks to annoy or torment me... I can live with that, if it were still her I'd be much more concerned.

Very interesting... I thought I was the only one who knows without any doubt their paralysis is linked with whatever is visiting.

Don't dismiss this one guys, the OP's not alone.

Just to add, that you fell asleep again immediately does suggest what I've read about the Lucid Dream state, which is entirely different from when I'm able to eventually move again and jump out of bed arms and legs flailing - must be quite a sight to witness, I'll have to get a better cam on myself for the entertainment value.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by Pr0t0]

This happens with ets too. The bed can shake when they portal in and they use phasing, sometimes they let you see them, or partly unstealth.

I think there is also an astral connection to it. And I've never had sleep paralysis. But I've been an experiencer shince childhood. They can also change your perception so you think you're in your bed, but you may have been portalled out, instead of them coming in. Because you can be really cold, and feel like your not lying on your soft mattress under your warm quilt, while you are percieving this as your room.

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Well for what it’s worth you are in good company my friend.

When I was four or thereabouts I used to have some sort of reoccurring “dream” where four men very much like black knights would drift down through my ceiling to the foot of my bed in unison. I would scream the house down every single time as they completed the movement.

The details are hazy but I recall something very much like hieroglyphics and extremely intricate etchings to the armour but of course I never really took in the details other than as precursor to “OH NOOOO” before screaming my lungs out.

There was and is no reason I should have imagined this as a young child but I did, and so often I was taken to see child psychologists.
My mother still is not happy to talk about it and I have also had UFO encounters.

Like I said, you are in good company

[edit on 16-1-2010 by SmokeJaguar67]

wen i was 6 i used to have a recurring dream where i would be laying in bed and i cud see the sky and the sky was red there was a fleet of ufos maybe 3 or 4 and they came to the flat thats all i can remember though as it was a long time ago

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Ahhh those dark figures in the corner of the room when you're lay frightened crying for your mum with no sound coming out....

Scarier and probably more easily explained by a psychologist than my current house guest... but wow... you too???

My mum, before she sadly passed recently, used to tell it as one of the endearing tales as mothers do to all the new girlfriends I'd bring home as a teenager... how she'd wake to the sound of my screaming out with no sound (i.e. my breath was that loud as I was desperately trying to make a noise) and what I saw in my room as if it were 'just a dream'... of course I denied it in those days

It is very simple as many other posters have said, your body is asleep your mind is not. I go through this a good bit.

I often imagine I have woken up when in fact I have not. I am relieved to imagine I have woken up but then when I look around my bedroom I realize there is a window where there is none or a clock where there is none or a chair where there is none and then the panic sets in because gosh darn it, I want to wake up and have a cigarette a coke and watch some porn!

All of witch I deem to be more fun than sleep.

However often in sleep apnea you are in such a deep state of sleep you are nearly comatose and near death. I have had this happen sometimes your heart rate slows you stop breathing. Often then when you wake up you have an oxygen deprivation headache!

When you are in that kind of deep state of sleep your subconscious will try to frighten you awake with images of impending death by things that normally scare you, your wife, your girlfriend, your kindergarten teacher, and other similarly dangerous lunatics and felons.

Often when this occurs I dream I am getting up out of bed, I dream I fall in this process and it hurts banging my head into dressers and things like that in my dreams the pain is real.

Sometimes I dream an invisible dark force has grabbed a hold of me, and has me in a bear hug, I usually dry a half nelson, and a full nelson when that doesn’t work but simply dream I crash into more things that hurt too.

Starting to get the idea why I am looking forward to a cigarette break something refreshing to drink that brings a smile and some porn?

Bottom line there is no rest for the wicked in this world, so straighten up and fly straight!


[edit on 16/1/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

If the hallucinations are a direct result of sleep paralysis then why aren't my sleep paralysis episodes accompanied by hallucinations?
Also, the explanation that the body wakes up before the mind does doesn't make much sense to me. People move all the time in their sleep. They react to things. You poke them, they roll over. Anyone who's had a girlfriend can tell you that.
So what is the process that seems to paralyze people while they wake up when they aren't paralyzed while they sleep?
Since breathing is a subconscious act I don't understand how being awake or dreaming should have anything to do with it.

My experiences with it include the paralysis of my entire body, including my lungs. I have the ability to move if I exert myself enough during the experience.

The main point is only sometimes this may be sleep paralysis in some people, but ets also do this as well, so its not a one size fits all answer. And there are many who have experiences with ets, sitings of crafts that are shared, and contact, that do not have sleep paralysis, nor do all the experiences happen when they are sleeping, sometime they happen in your bath or during meditation. And some have missing time up watching a show or on the computer or making a late night snack as my son did on numerous occasions that he could mark as he was beginning a show he was looking forward to, but suddenly it was one to two hours later.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by Unity_99]

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That sounds like them crazy aliens at it again. Same old tricks, they never come through with new material.

Be glad it's just some so-called "sleep paralysis", because they can do a lot worse then that.

Don't mind the disinfo crew. I just set their posts to "ignore".

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To help demon/alien : From my own experience, it sounds like demonic oppression. The paralysis is the demon pressing down upon you in order to take control. You can scream but no one hears. The only way That has worked for me to pull out of it, is by saying the Lord's prayer over and over until it let's go. There seems to be more of this thing being reported and since my descovery of HAARP, and knowing that spirits draw from the electro magnetic field, I think HAARP has opened up a major portal. Good Luck.

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It's probably just sleep paralysis and astral phenomena. In the classic book Soul Traveler the author experiences the same thing: bed shaking, strange sensation, paralysis, etc. Other people in his family experience it, too. The bed never shook; it was the typical onset of an OBE. Being in paralysis is one step closer to projecting.

Read Soul Traveler by Albert Taylor. It's great and it will tell you more than a bunch of random people on a forum screaming 'demonic possession! pray to jesus!!'

I work as a psychologist, but what you describe might be two things. Either regular sleep paralysis or a ghost\demon visit. Me and girlfriend has over a some time experienced it alot of times. She experience it more often than i do. We got a ghost in our house and sometimes it wants to reach out or 2 contact us, the result is just what you describe.

If you wake up by the odd smell of something burning on the other hand,its most likely a demon. When its energy connects with your skin, a smell of something burning occur.