Originally posted by BillfromCovina
Originally posted by Sky watcher
(1)Are you so ignorant to think that God himself is going to walk each and every Jew to Israel from the ends of earth?
When he led them out of Egypt did he walk with them and hold their hands singing? NO, BUT HE MADE SURE IT HAPPENED THOUGH!!
How can Jews come from the West of Israel from the Persian or Babylonian empires when they never were to the west of Israel? They were from the east
and to the north only!!!!!!!!
P.S. The Maccabean Revolt was war against Israeli Jews and the Nephilim who lived after the great flood. A small part of Jordan would not be
considered the four quarters of earth.
Obviously you do not know your bible. I also did not post that god would be holding their hands and singing. According to the bible, god did lead
them out of Egypt. " And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give
them light; to go by day and night"
To the west of Israel would be the city states and kingdoms of Greece. There would also be islands such as Crete. Some of these were controlled by
Persia at one time. You would have to believe that there was no trade or sea travel by Jews. They probably had enough of sea travel after Noah. To
the south was Egypt. The Jews had a limited view of the world. In the New Test the devil needs to take Jesus to a high mountain to show him all the
kingdoms of the Earth. How is this possible if the world is a globe.
PS- Your understanding of the Maccabean revolt is a delusion so I won't bother.
Thats like saying Alaska is west.
The 66 chapters of Isaiah consist primarily of prophecies of Babylon, Assyria, Philistia, Moab, Syria, Israel (the northern kingdom), Ethiopia, Egypt,
Arabia, and Phoenicia. The prophesies concerning them can be summarized as saying that God is the God of the whole earth, and that nations which think
of themselves as secure in their own power might well be conquered by other nations, at God's command
Don't see Greece in the equation to fit YOUR theory. You would have to go WAY north to get there and one could get to Greece territory at that time
by only going north so your wrong.
"god did lead them out of Egypt. " And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of
fire, to give them light; to go by day and night"
How do you know God wasn't there this time? Did you escort them instead?
You said God did not take the Jews out of Russia and such and put them in Israel this time because they came by Ship or Plane. Don't you think God
would just have them use the easiest form of transportation this time? I mean they didn't need someone to guide them because they have EL AL Airlines
thanks to GOD.
"Your understanding of the Maccabean revolt is a delusion so I won't bother."
Noah and the Giants (Anakim or Annunaki) after the Flood.
Noah's three sons may have brought with them wives, who were not pure descendants of Adam but those of the Anakim (Heb. ‘anaqim, sons of Anak,
Heb. ‘anaq, long-necked) or possibly the Canaanites. Or else after Ham and Japheth eventually became the ancestors of the "goyim," where they
combined with the Anakim who survived the Flood. The early Sumerian texts called them Anunaki, "those who came from heaven to earth." The
Anakim as in Genesis 6:4 they are the sons of the sons of God, they are called the Nephilim (uncertain etymology) or giants (Heb. rapha, raphah, Heb.
gibbor, mighty, Rephaim of Canaan ancestor of Og, king of Bashan, Emims of the Moabites, Zamzummims of Ammonites, Heb. murmurers, Zuzites (Zuzim) in
Gen. 14:5) who were of old, men of renown. This crossbreeding may be the reason why the ancestors believe that sexual relations could affect one's
health. One might even suspect that the Anakim were possibly the Greek Gods of mythology "fallen angels" the original Hebrew "B’nai Elohim"
some who did not survive the Flood.
The final group of exercepts that date to before the Maccabean crisis are several writings that would eventually become 1 Enoch. These include
selections from the Book of the Watchers,
(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the
Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or
"slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.
This now accounts for how we have evil in the world. While the fallen angels were punished, the giants were slaughtered and mankind was wiped out with
Noah's Flood, this condemning sin did not go away because these evil spirits, who were unable to be drowned or killed, still roamed the earth
Now, in Genesis 6:1-4, the offspring of the Sons of God and the daughters of men are called Nephilim, who are the "heros of old, the men of renown."
Literally, the word nephilim means "the fallen ones" and is a common euphemism for "the dead" in Hebrew. Forexample, in Jeremiah 6:15, "They will
fall among the fallen [Hebrew, nopelim]. In Ezekiel 32:27, the Nephilim are fallen warriors:
"They lie with the warriors,
The Nephilim of old,
Who descend to Sheol
With their weapons of war."
Elsewhere, the Nephilim are giants who were native inhabitants of Canaan.
In Numbers 13:33, they advise Moses "All the people whom we saw in
its midst were people of great size there we saw the Nephilim - the Anaqim are part of the Nephilim - and we seemed in our own eyes like grasshoppers,
and so we must have seemed in their eyes."
In Deuteronomy 2:11, the giants Anaqim are called Rephaim, and two of the most famous of the Raphaim are King Og of Bashan, whose huge iron bed could
still be seen on display in Rabbah of Ammon (Deuteronomy 3:11) and the warrior Goliath, who descended from the Raphah in Gath (2 Samuel 21:19ff).
Thus, it would seem that the Nephilim were both the race of heroes who lived before the Flood and in Canaan before the Israelites conquered the
Promised Land. The Rephaim and Anaqim were defeated by Joshua, Moses, and Caleb, and then the rest by David. Joshua 11:22 says that "No Anaqim
remained in the land of Israel, but some remained in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod."
[edit on 18-1-2010 by Sky watcher]