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posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by HolgerTheDane

Originally posted by Sky watcher
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Perhaps you are more stupid for not reading what I actually wrote.

Find your bible or read it on-line. It has nothing to do with not being able to read english

Exedus 21
"If you buy a Hebrew servant" . . . .
"And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave". . .

This is quoted from the bible. "If you buy a servant..." and If a man sells his daughter..."

How can you NOT get this to be slavery?



Oh dam I miss read your post sorry, I was tired that time but I didn't think that tired. My bad.

Slavery was very normal to them as well because they were all unpaid beaten slaves in Egypt.

In Israel Its really not slavery like it was done in Egypt or America for that matter when it was just Jews to Jews, Now when Romans or Babylonians came into play then they were just kidnapped and then sold as slaves. A Jewish man who wanted help and needed a worker would buy a Jewish son or daughter for a set time to do work for them.
The Family would be paid for the so called Servant, Kind of what we have today lol. Its not right but thats how it was back then. They are some serious Laws mixed with some most basic laws that fit the times.

You must remember that God did not change the Laws because back then they crucified Jesus and did not listen to many Prophets before Jesus, from then on he don't mind if they suffer a bit. He gave everyone freewill to do what they want until The End Times.




posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by HolgerTheDane

Originally posted by BillfromCovina
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The RFID tag being the mark of the beast. You state that the hand or forehead are expicit in the bible. You also state that this is natural. Currently Verichip installs its RFID chip under your right tricep. Since the bible is explicit, this prophecy can not be true.
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Have you guys ever tried to think laterally on the coming of the beast?

Try this one:

The christians were originally recognized by the symbol of a fish.

Peter (the great apostle Peter) has changed the concept of Jesus to change from a truly remarkable man with very good ideas to something that includes paranormal activity. This is documented extensively by numerous sources. I nearly said realiable sources but of course - that is a no no word in this case.

Now we are left with christians worshipping a crucifix - a torture instrument.

The bible clearly states that we are not allowed to worship idols. So what's with the crucifix?

And the way we are blessed in certain parts of cristianity is with the parson/reverend/priest/minister scribing the sign of a cross on your forehead.

Could it be that we are not talking about RFID-tags but actually the sign of the cross?

Could it be that . . (you fill in the blanks)



Since the church will be tormented and destroyed in the final days because of the beast I don't think so. Do you know what the Devils real name is from ancient times? Not that many know it, It has six letters.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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S&F for you, my friend.

"First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." (2 Peter 3:3,4)

"But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men." (2 Peter 3:5-7).

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyoneto come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:8,9)



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by toasted
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I'm sorry to tell you that there's a big problem here.

I hate to tell the good pastor, that Isaiah said nothing about the jews, but about Jacob/Israel.

If the pastor or anyone reading this cannot tell me the difference between Israel and the jews, then he has some studying to do.

I think the good pastor means well, but he missed the chapter on who is who...and it is not normal fare in seminary.


for pastor crone on the 1st vid.......


MMM What are you talking about? Isaiah wasn't talking about the Chinese.

Isaiah 36
1Now it came to pass in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah, that Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the defenced cities of Judah, and took them.

2And the king of Assyria sent Rabshakeh from Lachish to Jerusalem unto king Hezekiah with a great army. And he stood by the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field.

3Then came forth unto him Eliakim, Hilkiah's son, which was over the house, and Shebna the scribe, and Joah, Asaph's son, the recorder.

4And Rabshakeh said unto them, Say ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest?
en.wikipedia.org...

King Hezekiah was King of Juda IE: Israel and he is JEWISH, He ruled over the Jews.

Isaiah 11:11-12 (King James Version)

11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

His people are the Jews.

Isaiah 43:1-6

1But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

So here God is saying Oh Jacob, you who I God created as (A JEW) Who formed Israel a nation of Jews fear not.

4Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.

5Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;

6I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;

So we now see that he means the Jews, His people. It cant be all people or who would give them up? You were very vague in your post so I hope this is what you were talking about and not that Jacob was renamed Israel by an Angel.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher

Originally posted by toasted
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I'm sorry to tell you that there's a big problem here.

I hate to tell the good pastor, that Isaiah said nothing about the jews, but about Jacob/Israel.

If the pastor or anyone reading this cannot tell me the difference between Israel and the jews, then he has some studying to do.

I think the good pastor means well, but he missed the chapter on who is who...and it is not normal fare in seminary.


for pastor crone on the 1st vid.......


MMM What are you talking about? Isaiah wasn't talking about the Chinese.

[[[....I didn't say Isaiah never mentioned the jews, but I was talking about Isaiah 43
...there was no mention of Judah, only Israel. The tribes had already split 950 BC so the were 2 Houses, The House of Israel and and the House of Judah, and Isaiah knew the difference. ]]]



Isaiah 36
1Now it came to pass in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah, that Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the defenced cities of Judah, and took them.

2And the king of Assyria sent Rabshakeh from Lachish to Jerusalem unto king Hezekiah with a great army. And he stood by the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field.

3Then came forth unto him Eliakim, Hilkiah's son, which was over the house, and Shebna the scribe, and Joah, Asaph's son, the recorder.

4And Rabshakeh said unto them, Say ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest?
en.wikipedia.org...

King Hezekiah was King of Juda IE: Israel and he is JEWISH, He ruled over the Jews.

Isaiah 11:11-12 (King James Version)

11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

His people are the Jews.

Isaiah 43:1-6

1But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

So here God is saying Oh Jacob, you who I God created as (A JEW) Who formed Israel a nation of Jews fear not.

[[[ No he's not, he was speaking to just Israel, not the jews. Israel was SCATTERED after captivity and never returned, this is addressed to them, just as Christ said He come only to the lost sheep, that was Israel, the scattered tribes...they were not all jews!!!! only one tribe was Judah. the babylonian captivity really formed the jews as they are now, they formed the babylonian talmud and 66-70 AD is what they got for all that they had done, it was extreme punishment! Isaiah knew what he was saying, it was after captivity and after dispersion.
The great tribulation happened already, it was from 66-70, and the abomination was of the jews defiling their own temple, the tribulation was of them getting slaughtered because God had enough of their nonsense with idols ]]]

[[[ and I'm not picking on the jews, cuz all of Israel was punished in captivity because we all were His unfaithful bride, just doing whatever we wanted to do, over and over and over again. ]]]


4Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.

5Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;

6I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;

So we now see that he means the Jews, His people. It cant be all people or who would give them up? You were very vague in your post so I hope this is what you were talking about and not that Jacob was renamed Israel by an Angel.





I hope you can read my comments above ^^^ in the triple brackets.

in 3 different parts of your quote ^^^

READ THAT FIRST then this;

and don't forget Israel was to be known by a new name and have a new land...you have made the same mistake many others have made by misidentifying, first the correct group and who they are today, and then the location.

the jews have not fulfilled the Abrahamic covenant, after they left captivity and were escorted to just outside the DARIEL PASS , where they gathered together, there was over a million of them and they became the caucasians who got their name from so many of them passing thru the caucasus mountains settled to the north and to the northwest and to the west.

The ASSYRIANS never called Israel by the right name, they called them many many many different names, among which were OMRI , Beth Omri, GIMMER, CIMMERIANS see the Post Captivity Names of Israel by Pascoe Goard , then read Missing links discovered in assyrian tablets, by E Raymond Capt. who also has some great archeological videos all of us in Christ should view and share with our brothers

In 1850 20,000 tablets of cuneiform writings were discovered, and later printed in 1930, but who Israel was in the tablets was overlooked until after the 1930 stuff was printed.

Anyways Israel is not just jews, there were 4 different mothers of the tribes, and there are actually 13 tribes, the 13th being the forgotten tribe of Mannasseh...funny how the USA had 13 colonies and 13 arrows and 13 stripes....are you catching on yet? maybe not, it may take a while for it all to sink in, it's a lot to digest at one sitting

Israels punishment of captivity was also to forget...as in forget who they are and were...at least for a while. Christ came here to speak to us, those who were scattered. the jews weren't scattered, they were slaughtered and temple destroyed.

I have a lot more, but I think this will be plenty to deal with for the moment.

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posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 11:54 PM
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Bill

I was taught the MARK of the beast would be, in the way you think, and the things you do.....


no stupid tattoo or implant or anything physical



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by toasted
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Bill

I was taught the MARK of the beast would be, in the way you think, and the things you do.....


no stupid tattoo or implant or anything physical

Hello Toasted
My point in posting is that all these prophecies can easily be shown not to be relevant and none of them fulfilled. The believers will believe no matter what I say. They will follow what ever their religious leader says. Their leaders use an old brainwashing technique called fear. They have given up their critical thinking skills and follow blindly. Once you show them how easily you can defeat their arguments, they run away and look for easy prey.

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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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You do realize that prophecies are simply telling you what is going to happen if humanity does have a change of heart its not about worshipping and dieing for God...its about you figuring out who you are, you finding your divinity which is literrally lodged into your heart, that is why many cultures always referes being in the "HEART", this is why christianity has a thing called "The heart of Jesus"...Jesus completed the Hole Trinity because he figured out what all this chaos is about he knew himself and was himself in selfhood, that is how he transcended physicallity that is why the most powerful kings and armies feared him. Budha "A man who conquers himself is far more superior then a man who conquers a hundred armies" something like that..if people deicde change and be in peace then hey prophecies can be stop or delayed...but the earthquake that happened in Haiti's that is literrally the Bush Nazi faction that used Tesla technology its different from HAARP...



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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Elmo I do agree with some of what you say but I disagree with alot. The truth is even more simpler. Once you abandon your fears you can see through all these prophecies and the bible. You will no longer need it. You no longer need to be saved. You need no Messiah or Maitreya.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 08:24 AM
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This is ridiculous. A bunch of false dis-info Roman Catholic propaganda.

Khazars are not the real Israelites. They are fake Jews.
If you still think Jews are real Israelites you are totally lost.

Jews having enough money to stage Biblical prophecy doesn't make them real Israelites, in fact thats a prophecy in it self.

These fake Jews are Amalekites in the Bible, they come out of Esau(white people). They are basically the children of Esau/Edomites.

Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked. He covers the faces of its judges. If not he, then who is it?

To be a real Israelite you would have to serve 400 years of slavery, genocide and oppression along with a culture wiping.

God said he would use Edom as his sword against the Israelites for punishment.

The real Israelites are Natives,Hispanics and Blacks in the slave trade.
The people at the bottom.
The whites lied about the Blacks in the slave trade just being some other Africans sold by other Africans.
There are many reports books and documents of the real Israelites going into West Africa on the run.
The Apocrypha, (Books white people tried to take out the Bible)
explains how the Natives and Hispanics got to the western world.


White people could never be Israelites, it could help to read a Bible instead of having Roman Catholics read it for you.
White people are Esau, Edomites, Edom in the Bible.
Thats why Freemasons worship the Biblical Edomite King.
They are actually Red, not white.

It's fairly easy to tell who Babylon and the wicked are in the Bible, it reads like a resume.
Who raped the world and trashed it for all it's worth?

Jesus himself was a Black man, not white.
the white image is Cesare Borgia, go read up on him.
Di Vinchi and Michelangelo were hired to destroy and paint over any trace of the Israelites being people of color, thats another Biblical prophecy right there.

www.scribd.com...

Any Natives, Hispanics and Blacks(non African) that want to know more about their wiped out history U2U me I have many books and documents.
Anyone who disagrees with what I said simply doesn't know.

Here is some dirt on so called Jews.

www.dailymotion.com...
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.sprword.com...

oh and some original paintings of the real Israelites.



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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by BillfromCovina

Originally posted by toasted
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Bill

I was taught the MARK of the beast would be, in the way you think, and the things you do.....


no stupid tattoo or implant or anything physical

Hello Toasted
My point in posting is that all these prophecies can easily be shown not to be relevant and none of them fulfilled. The believers will believe no matter what I say. They will follow what ever their religious leader says. Their leaders use an old brainwashing technique called fear. They have given up their critical thinking skills and follow blindly. Once you show them how easily you can defeat their arguments, they run away and look for easy prey.

[edit on 20-1-2010 by BillfromCovina]


I can't argue with the selling of fear, I see it all over the teevee as well!!!

Well, I guess our motivations are different. But that's not a problem for me.

the real deal with prophecy for me, or if you believe, is one has to rightly divide the Word. not an easy task!!!!!!!!

According to a book I recently read, the abomination of desolation and the tribulation already went down, with the jews in 66-70 AD....and I think the man makes his case pretty well. but that is not popular opinion, which has for the most part been manipulated to the nines by original liars, then passed on by those who don't know they are passing on the lie.

My experience has also taught me that most people, including Christians, have no real idea of who "Israel" really is [ I'm speaking of the so-called lost tribes, not the current country ] and most of them don't believe anything different than the apostacy they were taught....and I'm not putting them down, I wasn't born knowing all this stuff, I had to dig dig dig, like an archeologist.

The Behistun Rock and Assyrian Tablets left evidence for all the world to see....people who love God and love truth should check them out.

I suppose you're gonna shoot me down now, but that's ok too, but maybe you'll just ask for evidence first....



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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I suggest a re-read of this thread (I know - YAWNNN)

In that you will see that both sides (or all three or four sides) are spouting Bible quotes to support their very differing views.

And the fascinating thing is that they fit in each their interpretation.

If that doesn't teach you something about the Bible and the true nature of the content of the Bible you are blind and deaf.

Also you should remember that revelation has been quoted for more than a thounsand years and clergy-men have shouted from pulpits millions of times and preached about the coming of the beast.

Remember that Scripture was the driving force behind the Spanish Inquisition and the horrors of persecution.

Remember that Scripture is behind uppression all over the world as we speak (or type).

Remember that the churches protect their own - even when they commit crimes against fellow humans. (does Catholic peadophiles ring a bell?)

The Bible is misused every day...

Remember that when you speak out against the islamic fundamentalists.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:17 PM
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I'm glad you have done your homework. Tho I see fault here with the youtube vid...the 2nd century is not far enuf back to say they looked like this from the beginning....can't do that. The northern tribes were GONE, and never came back, the southern tribes came out of captivity and only a remnant went back...and there were squatters there, and everyone wanted to be a jew, and everyone that was there except the Hebrews/later known as Christians, wanted to be a jew and referred to themselves as jews, no matter where their origin. so that part is messed up.....

[ David has red hair and blue eyes ]

Many folks have been following the BS they see on the teevee, or listen to their uninformed pastors who are not taught who the true Israelites were and are!

The true Israelites, the lost sheep, who disappeared after captivity, passed thru the caucasus mountains, and getting the nikname caucasian for there were so many of them.....and so many of them think they are gentiles!!!!! aya carramba!

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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:33 PM
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I'm glad you have done your homework.

Many folks have been following the BS they see on the teevee.

The true Israelites, the lost sheep, who disappeared after captivity, passed thru the caucasus mountains, and getting the nikname caucasian for there were so many of them.....and so many of them think they are gentiles!!!!! aya carramba!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:50 PM
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No need to try and disprove you. I agree that the book of Revelation was about that time and not today. I can't fault anyone who asks questions and is searching for answers. I wanted to challenge those who accept blindly. I was raised Christian and went to Christian schools till I graduated high school. I read the complete bible three times before I was ten years old. I know all the arguments and all the prophecies. I read all Hal Lindsey's books, many of them over 20 years ago. Once you abandon the fear and see how it is used to control people you start to realize the truth. This includes the fear of hell. No such thing. When you shine light into darkness, darkness flees.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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Hi toasted.

The scripture you are talking about with King David being blue eyes red hair is often used to tell that King David was white.

The scripture is:

1 Sa 17:42: And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.

when they used the word ruddy it means "tender".
The giant didn't want to fight him because he was a small young tender man.

It doesn't make sense for the Philistine to not want to fight him because he had red/white skin.

Now according to the scriptures everyone is black until Esau, the first white man.

Heres a few quick scriptures:

Job 30:30: My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

Sgs 1:5: I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

Sgs 1:6: Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

Sgs 5:11: His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

Jer 8:21: For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me.

Jer 14:2: Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

Lam 5:10: Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

Lam 4:8: Their visage is blacker than a coal

Dan 7:9: and the hair of his head like the pure wool

Rev 1:14: His head and his hairs were white like wool

Rev 1:15: And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace
(in hebrew it says fine bronze, which is even darker than brass)

Hair

Num 6:5 he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.

Jdg 16:13 If thou weavest the seven locks of my head with the web.

Jdg 16:19 and she caused him to shave off the seven locks of his head; and she began to afflict him, and his strength went from him.

Sgs 4:1 within thy locks: thy hair

Sgs 4:3 thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.

Sgs 5:2 for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.

Eze 44:20 Neither shall they shave their heads, nor suffer their locks to grow long; they shall only poll their heads.
I made sure to go back into the hebrew where it says black, the hebrew word is "qadar" which means dark skinned.

The only people to have bushy hair, like wool and locks are black people.

Even the Angels are described as black people.


They described Esau/Edomites as what the Lord calls "clean leprosy"
Esau itself means "pigment wasted away" which time line seems to line up exactly where science claims the first white people came SLC24A5

Now I don't mean to sound racist but who else could be Esau?

If whites are Israelites, then all the Biblical prophecies have passed and we are living in The Kingdom?
The Rothschilds and Rockerfellers are really God's chosen people ruling righteously?

Babylon the great is America, also labeled in the Bible so we can make no mistake, America is called spiritual Egypt, spiritual Sodom, spiritual Babylon, The daughter of Babylon, Babylon the whore.

What the Freemasons have done with America is take every single law in the book and and sinned against it on spite.

Also take a look at the official E.U poster.

www.wildolive.co.uk...
Satanic star, tower of Babel, Homosexuality and block headed people with 1 baby with a round head representing a young person that hasn't been brainwashed yet.

Thats all for now. 4000 character maximum.

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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

You or God would never call his people Israel unless he was talking about the NATION or Jacob himself not the people from it. He would have said Israelites.

Everyone accept you knows when God says HIS PEOPLE in regards to the nation of Israel he is talking about the JEWS.

Isaiah 43:1-6

1But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

God redeemed the NATION of Israel for his people the JEWS thats why he said O Jacob, Jacob was the third patriarch of the Jewish people.

You cant take every Jew and Gentile living in the world and shove them in Israel. Its not going to happen as it never has. Thats what you saying.

I don't know who taught you what but your way WRONG. You need to understand first and foremost the phrases that god uses over and over and what they mean.

To bust open your so called proof.

But the Israelites did not follow God. They failed and refused to obey Him. They rebelled and sinned. Instead of following the one true God, they followed the many pagan gods that the surrounding nations worshiped. The nation of Israel eventually split into two nations—the house of Israel and the house of Judah.

Because of their sins, God allowed the house of Israel to be taken into captivity by the Assyrians (720-718 B.C.). While in slavery, the house of Israel became “lost” . Then during 604 to 585 B.C., the Babylonians took Judah into captivity, destroying the Temple of Jerusalem.

The Jews were not all killed off as you would like to think.

After seventy years, the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem and the surrounding region. Later, the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Temple began. But the Jews continued to disobey God.

So who returned? THE JEWS!!!!

Ezekiel 37:21-22 (King James Version)

21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

Once again we cant have everyone in the world moving to Israel so it has to be Jews. The Children of Israel has always been the Jews.
God gave the land to the Jews and called it Israel so your argument holds no water.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Jews would look like anyone else from the mid-east in biblical times, They would look like Kuwaitis or Egyptians in color. Jews only look whiter today because most of them had gone to other northern countries for generations only to move home to Israel later.

Do Syrians look black to you? How about Iraqis? The garden of Eden was in Kuwait so in the begining they would look like Kuwaitis.

Thats not a hard one to figure out, You based your post evidence off a guy saying he was black because he had been baking out in the Vineyard lol.

Let me guess your black with an agenda. Only black people came from Africa back in the day so your post is kinda not needed.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 09:20 PM
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The real conspiracy in religion is that it is used to divide people. People use it to give labels to one another. To try and say we are the "chosen" and you are less than. Once you believe that certain people are bad and don't believe the right way, this then is used to take advantage of or kill them. As Skywatcher has shown, believers will twist and turn their prophecies to try and make them come true. No matter what you show them their prophecies are always true even when they are obviously not. Only when an authority from their religion says it is not true, then they will accept it.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher
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11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

You or God would never call his people Israel unless he was talking about the NATION or Jacob himself not the people from it. He would have said Israelites.

Everyone accept you knows when God says HIS PEOPLE in regards to the nation of Israel he is talking about the JEWS.

Isaiah 43:1-6

1But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

God redeemed the NATION of Israel for his people the JEWS thats why he said O Jacob, Jacob was the third patriarch of the Jewish people.

You cant take every Jew and Gentile living in the world and shove them in Israel. Its not going to happen as it never has. Thats what you saying.

I don't know who taught you what but your way WRONG. You need to understand first and foremost the phrases that god uses over and over and what they mean.

To bust open your so called proof.

But the Israelites did not follow God. They failed and refused to obey Him. They rebelled and sinned. Instead of following the one true God, they followed the many pagan gods that the surrounding nations worshiped. The nation of Israel eventually split into two nations—the house of Israel and the house of Judah.

Because of their sins, God allowed the house of Israel to be taken into captivity by the Assyrians (720-718 B.C.). While in slavery, the house of Israel became “lost” . Then during 604 to 585 B.C., the Babylonians took Judah into captivity, destroying the Temple of Jerusalem.

The Jews were not all killed off as you would like to think.

After seventy years, the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem and the surrounding region. Later, the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Temple began. But the Jews continued to disobey God.

So who returned? THE JEWS!!!!

Ezekiel 37:21-22 (King James Version)

21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

Once again we cant have everyone in the world moving to Israel so it has to be Jews. The Children of Israel has always been the Jews.
God gave the land to the Jews and called it Israel so your argument holds no water.



I don't care what "" everyone"" thinks they know about the jews...they're apostacy.

and only a REMNANT returned to jerusalem, and they continued to screw up, like all our ancestors were screwing up, and had them slaughtered and their temple destroyed

and if you only have that kind of depth on the scriptures.[ about the color ]..you're gonna have a very very hard time with it all....


[[ Once again we cant have everyone in the world moving to Israel so it has to be Jews. ]] how about everyone who came to america? see any parallels there?

do you have any idea WHO is overseeing Israel [ the PEOPLE, not the state ] from the House of David as was prophesied? you can't cuz you are so far off base, I have no idea how to reel you back in.....

you forget Isiah also said, Israel [ those who believed in Him ] would be known by a new name

and they would have a new home...the state of Israel is not a new home, it's their old home...

[[ God redeemed the NATION of Israel for his people the JEWS thats why he said O Jacob, Jacob was the third patriarch of the Jewish people. ]]

here we go again...Where does it say that? the bible never says jews til II kings.....you don't get it at all!!!!! besides, how could they possibly be jews PRIOR to JUDAH being born?!?!

You're all twisted around my friend, good luck unraveling the mess you are in the middle of, you're gonna need it, even tho you don't know it right now.





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