1 arrest was for simple assault...the other 2 were for disorderly conduct...and i dont care what anyone says...if a cop asks you for id...99% of the time its for a reason....so just give it to them...dont be a dick and start mouthing off...Dead Prez is a group known for bringing media attention to themselves...because otherwise most people wouldnt know about them nor give two sh@ts about them....they dont want racial fairness nor equality as them sometimes claim...they want to get rid of white people...plain and simple...theres nothing wrong with being "pro-black"....but theres something def. wrong with being flat out racist....and if you do listen to their records like you say you do....then you'd know they were/are racist...

Also...they claim that NYPD is racist and stopped them cause they were black...but do you know how many African Americans there are in Crown Heights?...ever been there?....thats bs in itself...and dont you find it a tad odd that the pictures of the shoot that defends them never were released?...come on now...

I find it funny that you should ask me if I've ever been to Crown Heights. I've been there plenty of times. I was born in Brownsville, BKKLYN and lived there many years. I've been all through Crown Heights, and i do know that it has been a trageted area for the city "clean-up" project. You know removal of street vendors, panhandlers, homeless and so forth. I also know that there is a very large Jewish community in that area. Smack dab in the middle. If this was near that part of Eastern Parkway, than you can bet cops will be present for one. And would be harassing for two.

I guess we shall agree that we disagree on this one.

Its not Harassing when youre asking someone for ID after a radio run in a high crime area...theres nothing wrong with "clean up"...do you expect them to "clean up" good areas?...that wouldnt make sense...stop hating on people for doing their job and a service to the public...Im still waiting for Dead Prez so called pictures...why arent they public?....

Please, don't turn this thread into a bash DP thread. We should keep the positivity up and just hope this good news spreads to the West Coast, where we could use some news like that.

sounds good...case closed on my part...

well, it's been a month now, I have not read, seen or heard anything about the gangs fighting eachother or anything else,

has anyone else found anything ?

I wanted to bring this back up...

it's been a few months now, nothing major to report on the "fighting" between the two gangs...

at least nothing that I could find... anyone else heard anything ?

First of all noone deserves to die ... even if they killed someone they still do not deserve to die. Althogh if someone killed my little sister or one of y loved ones they would die. But , everyone deserves a chance on living and everyone does something for a reason whether that reason be attention appetite for killing someone or something excited that thoguht untill it actually happens if you think about anything long enough, it will happen or will have some kind of effect on your life. So keep Positive Karma and try and help others out whenever possible if everyone did that then we would all be happy. But the truth behind the truth in MY OPINION is that someone there locally in that town has friends on the other side and they finally realized that its not worth it but what will end up happening is the bigger members from another town will come in and take care of that especially since it has been talked about enoguh for it to be brought to our attention I mean taht is thier lives what woudl they be if they were known for picking up the envirnment someone going to give them a Talk Show like Oprah ... NAh I don't think so ... and the things they sell is for them to survive and it has been happening forever and will not change unless we are all Living Communistic lifestyles where the government runs our lives tells us what we can eat and what we cannot and replicates the Egyptians systems of RULE ... Then we will be up for NWO and that is another post so ... I am off

Originally posted by bet555
First of all noone deserves to die ... even if they killed someone they still do not deserve to die. Althogh if someone killed my little sister or one of y loved ones they would die.

this is known as a double standard. do as i say, not as i do. its ok for you do to this but you dare tell others its not right for them to do it? uh try to at least APPEAR to be consistent even if you're not going to be, try to fool someone.

while im not big on this eye for an eye business i do feel on a certain level whatever it is you do that is so heinious that the moajority of society views you as nothing more than a scumbag you probably deserve whatever happens to you, whether dictated by law or meeted out by the hands of a vigilante. the only way i can look at it is from their eyes, if they dont care what happens to other or themselves why should i? maybe its "wrong" to think that but i cant make them care about what they do in this world, only they can and we have to react to such people in a way to prevent them from doing it again. after all it is THEIR actions that lead them to the consequences of the death penalty or a worse fate that can be found in a prison cell.


what i'm wondering is this; has any of these "gang members" ever botherd to question why their "leaders" give ordrs and do little else? they're no diffetrent than politicians that use soldiers like pawns in their own sick twisted game to have and keep power. while they rot in a prison cell for following whatever orders they were given their "leader" is still out there living life a free man doing as he spleases while they have all the time in the world to try and blame the cops or the white man or "the establishment" or whatever it is fashionable at the moment to blame for all the ill they have done to themselves. mindless pawns and they dont even know it.

what is it they hope to gain from this? longer prison sentences? more dead gang members? what is the point of this exactly? do they think entire police department and cities are just going to up and leave and let them take over? do they think police departments and regular citizens are going to simply allow them to sell drugs shoot people rob rape and kill people?

i try to give people a benefit of the doubt but i cant heads or tails of this. i cannot find any logical reason for any of this. these people are simply retarded.

we'll see how long that lasts for

Originally posted by elevatedone
I a very optimisic person, I really really hope that this continues with these guys.

Even if they don't quit selling the drugs, just the thought that they will see eachother on the street and not start shooting, I think that's great.

The nuteral territories is also a good thing, especially since schools and churches are now "nuetral", maybe some kids will not see the gang violence and end up in that lifestyle.

Agreed, but real gangs get screwed for drugs any day of the week. Shooting will happen based on the trade alone.

I can't see this lasting long.

There was a cease-fire here in Manchester (UK) in the mid nineties. It didn't take long till some gang members (I think it was the Gooch) realised it would be a good time to get rid of some of their rivals that they have a beef with (the rivals were the Doddies) and went out to shoot a couple. It all kicked off again after that, worse than before.

I have a feeling that something similar will happen. These gangs are still going to bear grudges and it will only take one group seeing a rival selling to one of their customers or being in their territory for something to go off.

OK, some gang members are extremely intelligent people but others are very disturbed, violent kids.

Good luck Newark, anyway!

guess they dont have a chance if they dont combine forces when ms13 and 18 roam wildly around ,

just a thought