Antisemitisme vs. freedom of speech, page 2

Let's keep it simple because i really need some answers on this....

I have collected a few quote of a dutch politician who is currently on trial because everybody seems to be of the opinion that the quotes below are merely an expression of this politicians freedom of speech

I think there should be less Muslims in Holland. I find the ideology of the Islam
Abject, fascist and wrong

Natives reproduce at a slower rate then immigrants. Immigrants are mainly held up in the larger cities. In twenty years they will be everywhere.

Islam is evil itself

Not out of hate but out of pride and self-preservation of our dutch identity and our western values, I defend a immigrationstop from all muslim countries

Of course it is not acceptable if the major cities in Holland are not predominantly white

All muslims that create problem should be kicked out of the country, including their families.

Our culture is much better then that of most immigrants

Why are we afraid to say that muslims should adapt. Because our norms and values just are a lot higher, better, more pleaant and more humane. Forget integration, assimilation! Let them wave their headscarves in protest. I can take them on

I wouldn’t want a growing number, probably in the future a majority, of our society or government to exist of muslims.

A lot of fundamental problems in dutch society like infrastructure, traffic, housing and healthcare are a direct consequence of immigrants

Islam is a violent religion. It is in the nature of the community.

1 out of 5 Moroccan kids is listed as suspect by the police. Their behaviour is a direct consequence of their religion and culture.

Might their ever be racial riots in Holland, which I don’t want, then that doesn’t necessarily imply a negative outcome.

Immigrants are a fact. Their hypothetical absence in dutch society might be my utopia but is not realistic.

I want a new article 1, in which western culture is better represented. I am okay with Jewish and Christian schools just not with Islamic schools.

I am not denying anybody family life. Even non-western immigrants can marry, life together. Just not in Holland.

The immigration of non-western immigrants must stop.

.......................If this is freedom of speech than how would we define the following (made up) quotes:

I think there should be less Jews in Holland. I find the ideology of Judaism abject, fascist and wrong

Natives reproduce at a slower rate then Jews. Jews are mainly held up in the larger cities. In twenty years they will be everywhere.

Judaism is evil itself

Not out of hate but out of pride and self-preservation of our dutch identity and our western values, I defend a immigration-stop for all Jews

Of course it is not acceptable if the major cities in Holland are predominantly Jewish

All Jewish people that create problem should be kicked out of the country, including their families.

Our culture is much better then that of Jewish immigrants

Why are we afraid to say that Jewish people should adapt. Because our norms and values just are a lot higher, better, more pleasant and more humane. Forget integration, assimilation! Let them wave their kippah’s in protest. I can take them on

I wouldn’t want a growing number, probably in the future a majority, of our society or government to exist of Jewish people.

A lot of fundamental problems in dutch society like infrastructure, traffic, housing and healthcare are a direct consequence of Jewish immigrants

Judaism is a violent religion. It is in the nature of the community.

1 out of 5 Jewish kids is listed as suspect by the police. Their behaviour is a direct consequence of their religion and culture.

Might their ever be racial riots in Holland, which I don’t want, then that doesn’t necessarily imply a negative outcome.

Jewish people are a fact. Their hypothetical absence in dutch society might be my utopia but is not realistic.

.......................If this is still freedom of speech than how would we define the following (made up) quotes:

I think there should be less black people in Holland.

Natives reproduce at a slower rate then black people. Black people are mainly held up in the larger cities. In twenty years they will be everywhere.

Not out of hate but out of pride and self-preservation of our dutch identity and our western values, I defend a immigration-stop for all black people

Of course it is not acceptable if the major cities in Holland are predominantly black

All black people people that create problem should be kicked out of the country, including their families.

Our culture is much better then that of black immigrants

I wouldn’t want a growing number, probably in the future a majority, of our society or government to exist of black people.

A lot of fundamental problems in dutch society like infrastructure, traffic, housing and healthcare are a direct consequence of black people

1 out of 5 black kids is listed as suspect by the police. Their behaviour is a direct consequence of their culture.

Might their ever be racial riots in Holland, which I don’t want, then that doesn’t necessarily imply a negative outcome.

Black people are a fact. Their hypothetical absence in dutch society might be my utopia but is not realistic.

I want a new article 1, in which western culture is better represented. I am okay with Muslim and Christian schools just not with all-black schools.

I am not denying anybody family life. Even black people can marry, life together. Just not in Holland.

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Now please remember that i am not trying to insult anybody but i am trying to understand were freedom of speech ends and discrimination starts.

And please don't start explaining me that afro-american people are not immigrants etc.. It is merely for example purposes.

Peace

[edit on 22/1/2010 by operation mindcrime]