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Prediction: Stock Market will not collapse in 2010

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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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Being a relative Newbie on ATS I cannot resist a prediction. I've lurked a long time on ATS and know a good prediction is valued around here!

Prediction:
The reality of the situation we are in the U.S. is unavoidable. Official unemployment is at 10% and is widely admitted that it will stay there. Interest rates are artificially low, banks resist lending to consumers, housing market is propped up by tax credits and government backing of new bad loans is back up to record highs.

You can read everywhere at ATS and elsewhere that doom and gloom is on the way. I believe it. I do.

But.....

This is an election year.

At all costs to our future, our politicians will continue the ponzi scheme until after the elections. A stock market collapse signals to even the most ignorant that we are screwed. Our politicians fancy themselves as "Heros", doing the dirty work so that the ignorant public will not rise up and destroy the government.

You see, it literally is a national security issue. A very real one. It does not matter that their incompetence and corruption has lead us to this point. A catastrophic collapse of our economy at the same time as an election is a recipe for revolution. Revolution is, by nature, destructive.

In a situation like that the Republicans know they will be in as big trouble as the Democrats. Any serving politician knows when Revolution comes they will be out no matter what party they are in. This is why they all support the lies to varying degrees.

They know it is unsustainable, they just need to get past the elections.

Mark my words, the government will support the stock market at all costs, do not bet against them on this.



I'm not an expert, but I'm a survivor
I have money in the market, I'm up over 1000% on GNW since Feb-Mar 2009. I'm up 600% overall. I guarantee you I will be out of the market by Aug-Sept 2010 no matter what they say about the market.

I won't be buying Gold either. Talk about a bubble that is going to burst. When you see Radio and TV saturated with ads to invest in something, that's the time to sell it if you have it, not buy.

My Plan:
I'm going to take my profits no latter than Sept and pay off our property completely. I'm going to buy a newer (not new) vehicle since I'm in need of one. I'm going to buy the things I need and think I'll need in the next year. It will be cheaper to get the things you need now than try to buy them with Gold if/when the SHTF.

Lastly, my Gold Rant:
You know what Gold is for? Jewish Refugees. Gold, Diamonds, etc. are used to take alot of estate/family wealth and compact it into something you can physically carry out of the country you are being persecuted in. You sell your entire estate and convert it to gold and escape before getting put into a concentration camp and incinerated. It is not an investment, it is estate transfer to a safer location and it is temporary. Anyone who buys it as a long term investment will be disappointed in the end.

The vast majority of people have absolutely no need for it. Anyone that tells you different is a sucker or a scam artist.




Disclaimer:
Our Enemies are very smart. They know (Just like our CIA) how to help start revolutions. I cannot completely rule out collapse prior to elections due to influence and actions from foreign nations.




posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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I call this "casino predictions". All is rotten, notorious criminal runs banks and the stock market. No more slaves get employed. So what? Do you have a might dream? How can this #ing system work without slaves and consumers? Make the owner of slaves and money more rich? Still wanna be a Ferrari owner? You make me sick, sorry. It's time to close the #ing felons-market. Close that damn money machineries down....



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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I call this "casino predictions". All is rotten, notorious criminal runs banks and the stock market. No more slaves get employed. So what? Do you have a might dream? How can this #ing system work without slaves and consumers? Make the owner of slaves and money more rich? Still wanna be a Ferrari owner? You make me sick, sorry. It's time to close the #ing felons-market. Close that damn money machineries down....



I make you sick?

Why is that?

I'm sharing my ideas here, from my perspective.
Saying I'm in the market and stating my return isn't for bragging it's just saying part of where I'm coming from.

I'm self-employed, I'm a technician. Business was down almost 40% in 2009. I'm in the market for survival not because I'm some type of fat cat profitting off the backs of others.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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You can only steal money in this system. There is no merit. At the end you will loose it all because the whole game makes you greed. The Stock market brings the absolutely worst properties of human to an come out.

Sorry, don't take it personally - but this is so unnatural - Nothing comes from nothing period.

This guy got's it at least:


And he knew it all the time:




[edit on 16-1-2010 by cushycrux]



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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A question if I may?

What elections are you referring to?

I am not from the USA.

PS, your analogy on Gold is SPOT on.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 07:50 AM
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You can only steal money in this system. There is no merit. At the end you will loose it all because the whole game makes you greed. The Stock market brings the absolutely worst properties of human to an come out.


You highlight the problem I think many here at ATS have. You have knowledge of how screwed up the system is but a disconnect on how to use that knowledge in the physical world to help yourself and others.

In the end 99% of conspiracies are about money. Mabe they're about control but control of others to increase their wealth. Yes, it's greed.

What are you going to do about it?

I think the best way to fight a conspiracy is to profit from it the same way they do. It strengthens you, confirms the conspiracy and dilutes their profit which weakens them.

I take my knowledge and use it to strengthen myself and others around me. You can't fight the system when you are weak. You are of no help to others when you are weak.

I take what I learn and use it to make money the same way they do. GNW (Genworth Finacial) is a spin off of GE, they do reverse mortgages among other things. GE is Best Buddies with Obama. Reverse Mortgages are the next tool to transfer wealth to the rich. The Baby Boomers are the only ones with equity left in their homes. The rich are coming to get it.

Am I an **shole for profiting of this "conspiracy"?

If I sit back and just complain I'll be broke and of no use to anyone. Worse, I become a burden on others.

I'm a former Marine, I'm a fighter and a survivor. I know the weak don't win fights. Froto doesn't win in the real world.

As long a 2 men exist, one will try to dominate the other sooner or later.

My friend,
I agree with you on principle, but....

In the U.S. you need money to live.
If I was in caveman days, I'd hunt to survive.
In the modern word earning money is the new hunting.
When the world changes then I will adapt. I'm good at that.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:07 AM
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What elections are you referring to?

I am not from the USA.

PS, your analogy on Gold is SPOT on.



The U.S. has Congressional Mid-Term Elections in November 2010. Called Midterm because they are half way through the Presidential term. 1/3 of the Senate and (I believe) all of the House are up for election at that time.

Democrats are likely to lose alot of ground already because of the Healthcare issue among other things. Republicans will be in trouble too actually because fresh Republicans coming in are not going to have the same loyalty to the party line. They may actually have principles until corrupted later on.

Stock market collapse would lead to a "vote all incumbants out" mentality or strengthen an already growing independent movement. Worst case scenario....Riots in the streets like less "stable" countries.

Just my take.

Thanks for the props on the Gold analogy.

I also think Real Estate is scary investment believe it or not. At least regionally. In Texas we get taxed 3% of the Value every year. A lot of rumblings from States about going after property owners for more taxes.

[edit on 16-1-2010 by ActivePatriot]



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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I'll add that UNOFFICIAL unemployment is at 17%-21%.

That being said there will most likely be a large blow to the stock market this year.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:47 AM
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I'll add that UNOFFICIAL unemployment is at 17%-21%.

That being said there will most likely be a large blow to the stock market this year.


UNOFFICIAL is the key word.

They will maintain the lie as long as they can. If it's 15% that's real bad.

Falling Tax revenue paints an ugly picture
IRS Income Tax revenue Falls

Say unemployemt is 10% then factor in everyone who has taken 10% paycuts. Then factor in all the Baby Boomers retiring and drawing social security.

It really is doom on the way.

I'm sticking to my guns that our fearless corrupt politicians will work as hard as they can to keep the market up until the elections.

My title is a little misleading though because I'm only saying it will stay up until the November elections. It's a goner past that.

Even if it does take a hit before the elections, it will be nothing like what's going to happen afterwards. We are literally broke.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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I believe many people are already of the opinion to vote out all of the incumbents. I know my health care costs went up this year and so did my brother's by large percentages. This is something I pay just to have health care insurance whether I go to a doctor or not. My costs went up over 21 percent, his went up over 40 percent. Thanks Obama and the democrats. Requiring insurance companies to pay for everyone who is too lazy to exercise and take care of their health makes me pay for their health insurance instead of putting the costs where they were more fair. The insurance companies already jacked up our rates in anticipation of the new Obama rules. Our country is bankrupt and Obama and the democrats seem to know of no problem that they can't borrow and spend more on. Eventually everything will come crashing down to create misery for all of us. If it doesn't, I will be surprised.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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I'd like to make another prediction.

The Sun WON'T blow up in 2010.

I know it's a long shot, but I had a lucid dream that was so vivid that it must be true.

I'd also venture that the Sun will remain intact through 2011.

Course, I'm not going to make any predictions about 2012.
Anything can happen.


OF COURSE THE STOCK MARKET ISN'T GOING TO COLLAPSE IN 2010.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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The market will fall just like the Sun will fall in less than an hour where I live

[edit on 16-1-2010 by Exmar]



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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OF COURSE THE STOCK MARKET ISN'T GOING TO COLLAPSE IN 2010.


How much do you follow the Stock Market or reality for that matter?

The market is fundamentally defying gravity. It along with housing are getting propped up by the government. The market is getting manipulated in after hours trading with relatively little volume.


The free market does not exist right now. If it did, the Credit Default Swap market would implode and correct the 50 trillion dollar scam to next to nothing. Housing prices would correct and everyones precious 401k's would be back down to Dow 7000 levels. GM would have gotten broken up or sold for pennies on the dollar to a foreign investor.

You're going to compare the market to the realibility of the sun?

I get what you're saying, that it's not a very bold prediction.

My greater point is that the Market is being manipulated by the Government, and despite the fact that they are running out of tools and money quickly, they will keep it propped up at all costs until after the elections.

They will run out of moeny, the truth is they already have. It is inevitable that the market will crash and crash hard. When it does it wont' come back for years, America will be fundamentaly changed for it.

It's not a question of if but when.

I'm merely predicting when based on the reality of the corrupt system we live under.



[edit on 16-1-2010 by ActivePatriot]



posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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I'm going to agree with you that the market won't collapse as in fall apart completely and ruin America. But I do think the market is going down until late June. That will be the turning point. Two more quarters of ironing out the wrinkles and then steady upward growth....



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