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Underground Egypt-Gaza tunnel dubbed 'wall of death'

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by dereks
You appear ignorant of the Hamas Charter
"On the Destruction of Israel:
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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' "


So Hamas will accept nothing but the destruction of Israel...


I don't think that is gonna happen. I think it is the other way around. Gaza and West Bank have become extermination camps. It is literally becoming just a matter of time before the endgame is complete.




posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 05:20 AM
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I must just point out that Hamas do not posses weapons that are capable of penatrating the most serious defensive weapons that Israel could feild.
Thier pathetic little rockets and mortars could be blown from the sky with no effort on the part of Israel , since they have anti missile tech built in thier nation by thier nation , which if actualy USED would render every method of attack utterly useless. The only reason they havent set this up, is because it suits them to have an excuse to invade and destroy non combatant palestinians, so that they can occupy thier lands later ,in direct contravention of international law.
Look at the last major offensive by Israel. A few rockets kill a couple of folks, and all of a sudden you have a massed offensive, children being blown up in thier schools, non combatants being shot in the street, tanks shelling everything in sight with little to no regard for innocent life. The whole thing stinks. Thousands of dead, thousands made homeless, and because this is Gaza , no one can get aid in because it might get to terrorists!
And you know, it smacks of the same methods used to begin the Iraq war. Either orchestrate or allow a terror attack on a highly populated civilian environment, then because you have taken casualties, use that as an excuse to go OBLITERATE a nation, take its resources, install corperations and companies to accumulate funds and raw materials on your behalf, and away you go , money for nothing and genocide for free.
Thing is , anyone with an ounce of sense knows that the only way to take down a terror group is queitly , cleanly , and with vastly superior intelligence skills. Land war NEVER works on these fundamentalists, so any invasion is pointless, counter productive, and ultimately can have only one outcome. The death of the innocent, and rising anger against the aggresor.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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Perhaps, as you put Israel responds with a heavy hand when retaliating against Palestinian rocket attacks? However, when dealing with an enemy you go at them with all superiority available in a given confrontation. The key is to decimate the enemy into submission and surrender. That is warfare, and unfortunately, it is the game Hamas is playing with Israel.They bring the stiff response on themselves by provoking Israel. Now, put the shoe on the other foot, and lets say Israel is in a position Hamas is in militarily. Do you honestly think Hamas wouldn't use the same methods and tactics to break the Israelis?

Whoever said warfare was fair, and certain rules must be adhered to in a given conflict? War is war, and whenever it is utilized the civilian population usually suffers from it. That is why it should be avoided at all costs by the politicians. If Hamas wanted to ensure the safety of their people they would hold off on rocket attacks and suicide bombings.

Then, perhaps the incursions into Gaza would end? Plus, the reason civilians are dying, is that the militant arm of Hamas hides among the elderly, woman, and children. It is difficult to find those that are responsible when they look like an everyday civilian. My personal opinion is, maybe Hamas should end their little war of attrition with Israel, and open up diplomatic dialogue with the Israelis, and perhaps; a reasonable settlement between the two can be met. Then maybe the bloodshed on both sides will end.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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These tunnels are a life line to the Palestinian people, these are the ONly ways of getting food and medical supplies into Gaza, apart from the meager charity and UN food dispensaries. The whole of Gaza's infrastructure has been destroyed. The destruction of schools hospitals and the manufacturing industry has led to a huge rise in unemployment and homelessness.
I agree Hamas is no help to the Palestinians, but they now have a fresh group of angry youngsters who have lost their families in last years operation cast lead. Youngsters who have nothing to live for and who will now contemplate being Martyrs.

I believe 90% of Palestinians and 90% of Israelis want peace, its the extremist levels on both sides that are dictating the policies.

However when it's the Palestinians who have been suffering the most through the troubles, I will always stand up and defend them. Especially after the actions of operation cast lead.

[edit on 18-1-2010 by woodwardjnr]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Jakes51
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Perhaps, as you put Israel responds with a heavy hand when retaliating against Palestinian rocket attacks?


No I do not put that, I put that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine (Gaza/ West Bank) and Israel is committing crime of Apartheid to gain land.

[edit on 18-1-2010 by December_Rain]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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I think the responsibility falls on those who could protect themselves at no physical risk to either themselves , or thier enemies, to do so . Moreover, it falls to the richest and most technologicaly advanced nation to be the most adult and least territorial. They could defend thier borders with no loss of life if only they cared to... but they do not care to.



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