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Senate Can Pass Health With 51 Votes, Van Hollen Says

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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So, they've already been planning this. It doesn't matter what obstacle is thrown at them, come hell or high water this is gonna pass. This is an absolute travesty, and yet people are just sitting by doing nothing, where oh where is the MSM on this. Change they'll be a making alright.........is this really happening, are people this blind?







www.bloomberg.com...




posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
So, they've already been planning this. It doesn't matter what obstacle is thrown at them, come hell or high water this is gonna pass. This is an absolute travesty, and yet people are just sitting by doing nothing, where oh where is the MSM on this. Change they'll be a making alright.........is this really happening, are people this blind?







www.bloomberg.com...


What are you talking about?? The dems. have a big majority, and will be passing their agenda with a larger margin than the republicans passed theirs. Elections have consequences, stop with the melodrama.

Best,
SN



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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Did you read the article from Bloomberg, or are you just stating your opinion on this? They have planned for every obstacle, payed off those they needed to, and are willing to push this through no matter what anyone wants. So melodrama as you put it aside, you have no problem with this?



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Did you read the article from Bloomberg, or are you just stating your opinion on this? They have planned for every obstacle, payed off those they needed to, and are willing to push this through no matter what anyone wants. So melodrama as you put it aside, you have no problem with this?


You are acting like the country isn't basically split on the issue. I think your world-view might be skewed into thinking fair and balanced is something other than what it is. Based on the data, a majority of the country would support the bill if it was MORE progressive (i.e. contained a public option):


CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Jan. 8-10, 2010. N=1,021 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"Would you feel enthusiastic, pleased, displeased, or angry if Congress passes a health care bill?"

Enthusiastic Pleased Displeased Angry Other (vol.)/Unsure
% % % % %

1/8-10/10
14 33 23 28 2


"Now thinking specifically about the health insurance plans available to most Americans, would you favor or oppose creating a public health insurance option administered by the federal government that would compete with plans offered by private health insurance companies?"

Favor Oppose Unsure
% % %

1/8-10/10
54 46 1


Gallup Poll. Jan. 8-10, 2010. N=1,023 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.

"Would you advise your member of Congress to vote for or against a health care bill this year, or do you not have an opinion?" If no opinion: "As of today, would you say you lean more toward advising your member of Congress to vote for a health care bill, or lean more toward advising your member of Congress to vote against a health care bill?" Combined responses

For Against No Opinion
% % %

1/8-10/10
49 46 6



[edit on 1/15/2010 by skunknuts]



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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ObamaCare is dead.
The rest of the democrats will run for the hills when
Senator Brown is sworn in after the landslide victory.
No one wants to get Coakleyed in November 2010.

Oh BTW, a clear majority of Americans are against ObamaCare.
Is that even a factor any more?



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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What the American people want never mattered , never will.


Change the old boss , same as the new boss.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by adifferentbreed
 


ObamaCare is dead.
The rest of the democrats will run for the hills when
Senator Brown is sworn in after the landslide victory.
No one wants to get Coakleyed in November 2010.

Oh BTW, a clear majority of Americans are against ObamaCare.
Is that even a factor any more?


'Coaklyed??!!' WTF is that, Glen Beck trying to be funny? Go a., count your chickens, just like in NY.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:40 PM
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Oh BTW, a clear majority of Americans are against ObamaCare.


Wrong. I think many people wanted Obamacare. Obamacare was a vision during the election that many people shared with him.

But for some reason, Obama dropped the ball. Instead of defining the vision he had for healthcare, he settled for anything Congress could pass. In other words, fulfilling the promise became more important than passing a quality healthcare bill.

This is why we have the crappy bill they are debating at the moment. This bill is not what Americans want.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Coakleyed is a new verb.
You will hear it more and more as the year goes by.
It means to get blasted by "the people" after ignoring them.
Keep an eye on the landslide victory for Senator Brown.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
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Oh BTW, a clear majority of Americans are against ObamaCare.


Wrong. I think many people wanted Obamacare. Obamacare was a vision during the election that many people shared with him.

But for some reason, Obama dropped the ball. Instead of defining the vision he had for healthcare, he settled for anything Congress could pass. In other words, fulfilling the promise became more important than passing a quality healthcare bill.

This is why we have the crappy bill they are debating at the moment. This bill is not what Americans want.


Great! Lets put the 2,000 page monster in a wheel barrel and
throw it in a fireplace. It could warm the White House for 5 hours.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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I'd like to agree with you, what's your take on the article? It seems this was an alternate plan for awhile now, and they can pass it with 51 votes.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by skunknuts

['Coaklyed??!!' WTF is that


It means you were struck in the . by a shinny UFO right after you snapped a photo of it...





posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
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I'd like to agree with you, what's your take on the article? It seems this was an alternate plan for awhile now, and they can pass it with 51 votes.


It's called "bi partisan" effort - 60 votes

I would like to thank Obama being passive and Sarah for her wonder truth mongering about murder squads-

Certainly is a bi partisan work



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


I'd like to agree with you, what's your take on the article? It seems this was an alternate plan for awhile now, and they can pass it with 51 votes.


It's an air ball. We live in a democracy not a dictatorship.
Just watch what happens. Ignoring the majority [GOP/independents]
is a really bad idea. James Carville will give the liberals the bad news.
ObamaCare is dead. RIP
He will then tell them to focus on the economy for the next 10
months and hope for the best.
Right now Team Obama is trying to "pivot' while standing in a
huge pile of cows*it.

[edit on 15-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]



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