You'll see want you want to see, whether its true or not.

Originally posted by KSigMason
You'll see want you want to see, whether its true or not.

Perhaps more accurately, you'll see what you're capable of seeing because it is your truth.

I gotta say that I don't really see the Illuminati trying to exert it's awesome power over humanity through a semi-nekkid model.

Plus, if they wanted to try to send us all a message through a semi-nekkid model, why didn't they chose someone like Betty Paige?

To those versed in symbolism, they are unmistakable.

however, as I always contend, there are two far more importnat questions to ask that simply asking if it is symbolism:

1)Who chose to use these poses?
2)What power do these symbols have(they are used extensively enough that there MUST be somethng behind them)

You have an arm.

The arm has an elbow. This divides the arm into two parts.

Hold out your arm. Please, do this for me now. This is an experiment.

Now bend your arm at the elbow. Which direction and how much or how little doesn't matter.

Now imagine a line from your wrist to the shoulder. What shape do you get? Please write it in the space provided below:

X________________


Now do this same experiment with your friends (ask their permission first!). Do their arms make triangle shapes? If you can find a person who can bend their arm at the elbow without making two positive sides plus one negative side that together form a triangle please urge them to seek medical advice as they have probably broken or dislocated something.

Originally posted by Auguste133
Now do this same experiment with your friends (ask their permission first!). Do their arms make triangle shapes? If you can find a person who can bend their arm at the elbow without making two positive sides plus one negative side that together form a triangle please urge them to seek medical advice as they have probably broken or dislocated something.

Mine made a pentagram, is this bad?

Originally posted by Auguste133
You have an arm.

The arm has an elbow. This divides the arm into two parts.

Hold out your arm. Please, do this for me now. This is an experiment.

Now bend your arm at the elbow. Which direction and how much or how little doesn't matter.

Now imagine a line from your wrist to the shoulder. What shape do you get? Please write it in the space provided below:

X________________


Now do this same experiment with your friends (ask their permission first!). Do their arms make triangle shapes? If you can find a person who can bend their arm at the elbow without making two positive sides plus one negative side that together form a triangle please urge them to seek medical advice as they have probably broken or dislocated something.

I am concerned.... My left arm made a circle and my right arm made something that looked like dice from dungeons and dragons!

Should I seek help, or join Cirque Du Soleil?!?

Originally posted by Auguste133
You have an arm.

The arm has an elbow. This divides the arm into two parts.

Hold out your arm. Please, do this for me now. This is an experiment.

Now bend your arm at the elbow. Which direction and how much or how little doesn't matter.

Now imagine a line from your wrist to the shoulder. What shape do you get? Please write it in the space provided below:

X________________


Now do this same experiment with your friends (ask their permission first!). Do their arms make triangle shapes? If you can find a person who can bend their arm at the elbow without making two positive sides plus one negative side that together form a triangle please urge them to seek medical advice as they have probably broken or dislocated something.

You are missing the point. We know that anyone can make a triangle with their arms.

The question is about why so many photos use these same poses, over and over. This symbo0lism goes back to at least the 1600's.

Please try not to be so snide, when you obvious dont understand the conversation.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

You are missing the point. We know that anyone can make a triangle with their arms.

The question is about why so many photos use these same poses, over and over. This symbo0lism goes back to at least the 1600's.

Please try not to be so snide, when you obvious dont understand the conversation.

Take a look at wedding photos... the most recent ones you can find, then your parents, then at historical ones. There really aren't that many poses to chose from and you will find the same ones being used over and over. I don't think the last poster was being "snide", I think they were using humor to illustrate their point that there really doesn't seem to be a hidden message in the half-naked dude's pose.

I also stick by my claim that the Illuminati will probably not try to take dominion over humanity by a half-naked guy posing in an armani advertisement. That just sounds silly.

Just wanted to add this as well... the symbolism was used in photographs dating back to 1600? I recall photography being invented in 1814... (well, I don't actually recall it personally, as I am not that old)

[edit on 1/15/2010 by YourPopRock]

Originally posted by YourPopRock

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

You are missing the point. We know that anyone can make a triangle with their arms.

The question is about why so many photos use these same poses, over and over. This symbo0lism goes back to at least the 1600's.

Please try not to be so snide, when you obvious dont understand the conversation.

Take a look at wedding photos... the most recent ones you can find, then your parents, then at historical ones. There really aren't that many poses to chose from and you will find the same ones being used over and over. I don't think the last poster was being "snide", I think they were using humor to illustrate their point that there really doesn't seem to be a hidden message in the half-naked dude's pose.

I also stick by my claim that the Illuminati will probably not try to take dominion over humanity by a half-naked guy posing in an armani advertisement. That just sounds silly.

Just wanted to add this as well... the symbolism was used in photographs dating back to 1600? I recall photography being invented in 1814... (well, I don't actually recall it personally, as I am not that old)

[edit on 1/15/2010 by YourPopRock]

1)There are infinite poses. and in wedding poses, they are almost NEVER lined up at exact angles
2)This has nothing to do with 'half-nekked guy', it has to do with pop culture. These symbols are EVERYWHERE in pop-culture.
3)I never said they only showed up in photos. I said the symbolism has been used since at least the 1600's. They did portraits back then, you know. Its called painting. Or did you think there was no visual record before 1814?

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
To those versed in symbolism, they are unmistakable.

To someone really versed in symbolism, they are laughable.

1)Who chose to use these poses?

The photographer and/or director on the set of the shoot; the editor or artistic director who narrowed down from the pool of shots to the ones presented to the client; and ultimately the client, whomever is paying to have the ad put in the magazines.

2)What power do these symbols have(they are used extensively enough that there MUST be somethng behind them)

Symbols, at their best, cause the viewer to make an association between the pictorial and the ideal represented in their mind. See Plato, Aristotle, Freud, Saussure, Lacan and a half-dozen others if you really want to start this conversation.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
To those versed in symbolism, they are unmistakable.

To someone really versed in symbolism, they are laughable.

1)Who chose to use these poses?

The photographer and/or director on the set of the shoot; the editor or artistic director who narrowed down from the pool of shots to the ones presented to the client; and ultimately the client, whomever is paying to have the ad put in the magazines.

2)What power do these symbols have(they are used extensively enough that there MUST be somethng behind them)

Symbols, at their best, cause the viewer to make an association between the pictorial and the ideal represented in their mind. See Plato, Aristotle, Freud, Saussure, Lacan and a half-dozen others if you really want to start this conversation.

1)Right. Not even going to bother with that one.
2)Thank you for illustrating the point I was driving at. My point was, it is not the 'half naked' guy who made the decision to pose that way.
3)Again, thank you for illustrating my point. These are not just whim choices for poses, as some would have you believe. They are specific, time honored, and there for a reason.

In your attempt to make yourself feel superior and put me down, all you have done is verified my points. You offer no rebuttle, no anything, other than a holier-than-thou attitude. Nicely done.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

3)Again, thank you for illustrating my point. These are not just whim choices for poses, as some would have you believe. They are specific, time honored, and there for a reason.

Ah thank you, thank you and thank you again. That is nice to know but I do be a little afraid for it seems that the job would be only half done. I be none to bright and while I do like to know that symbols are specific I have only a small brain and cannot see the specific bits. You know so perhaps you could tell me a little bit more. What are the symbols you see, what do they mean, who has time-honored used them in the past (ooh! pictures would be nice!) and what is the reason they are there? And you, being as bright as you can, can surely provide some writings from books by learned wise men from the past (from the honored times when the time honored symbols were used) who can tell me all about this stuff.

I thought I had a very ON-TOPIC post.

I have no problem accepting that there is an illuminati and other forces at work, I just find it silly to decide that a half-nekkid guy is the vehicle they would use to present their master symbols.



[edit on 1/15/2010 by YourPopRock]

So here's my question:

if this is so ridiculous to all of you, why are you in this thread working so hard to shrug it off? Hmmmm...........

Makes one wonder.....

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
So here's my question:

if this is so ridiculous to all of you, why are you in this thread working so hard to shrug it off? Hmmmm...........

Makes one wonder.....

MENALCUS: 1+1=3!!!

MOPSUS: No it's not, it's two. That's ridiculous.

MENALCUS: If it's so ridiculous why are you working so hard to shrug off my theory? Hmmm......

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