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Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Carl Jung was a student of Freud, who broke with his master and went beyond the "sexual theory" into archetypes. Part of Jung's quest was to rediscover Gnostic beliefs. Accordingly, Jung surmised that Lucifer was the shadow brother of Christ.
Perhaps even the twin and real Christ.
(There are two "Christs" and geneologies in the KJ New Testament.)
"...Later, when some in the public were taking courage that the midterms backlash of November 2006 had sufficiently restrained the administration’s dreams of playing a vital role in initiating Armageddon, behind the scenes in Washington DC this influential group of powerful men retained faith in their paranormal forces. Setting their eyes on the timeframe 2009-2012, they were not for the moment concerned if congress or even the executive branch changed hands now and again. They had received what they wanted—official invitation to supernaturalism by the nation’s leaders and, for sufficient time, conformity by the majority of uninitiated Americans. An Angel from the Whirlwind spread its powerful wings, and a new epoch in American history was ushered in; a time when the government of the U.S. was intentionally brought under influence to dark angelic power.
The statement above may seem daring. But the connection between the president’s speeches, signals to ‘the family’ of spiritual advisors as well as to the leaders of The Craft (discussed later), the Bush administration’s subsequent actions, coalescence of congress and for a while the majority of Americans, set in motion the rules for cosmic game play as defined in the sacred texts of all major religions, including the Bible. Invitation to angels by elected officials combined with passive civilian conformity is key to opening doorways for supernatural agents to engage social governance. This is a classic tenant of demonology. Spirits go where they are invited, whether to possess an individual or to take dominion over a region. One could contend therefore that starting in 2001, the United States became so disposed in following and not challenging unprecedented changes to longstanding U.S. policies including the Christian rules for just war, that a powerful force known to the Illuminati as the "Moriah Conquering Wind," a.k.a. "the Angel in the Whirlwind" accepted the administration’s invitation and enthroned itself in the nation’s capital. Immediately after, it cast it’s eyes on the ancient home of the Bab-Illi, Babylon, where the coveted ‘Gate of the Illi’ had opened once before.
...given other ‘signs of the times,’ we tune our ears to the prophets who foretold an end-of-days event when Babylon would be overthrown by a foreign invader, followed by the release of apocalyptic forces—powers known by the prophets as the descendants of fallen angels who went into Hell "in full battle dress" . When the prophet Jeremiah prophesied the future of Babylon, he specifically foresaw the catalyst for its destruction as happening when the God of the Angel-Armies (LORD of hosts) sends a warning that "evil" (Ra) is to be unleashed upon the nations of the world by "a great Whirlwind" that is raised up from the coasts of the earth (Jeremiah 25:32). The people of earth are afterward viewed as hopeless and in need of a savior."...
to truly.. verrrrily know the scriptures.. past the point where you 'think' you know them... do you really...
Originally posted by gandhi
reply to post by AlphaPrime
Nope, you gatta believe in god to believe in Satam, since he went against christans, its within the christian religion.
Originally posted by Jordan River
On guard pussy cat.
At this moment I would like to challenge you on your bergade of self imposed rants.
What people forget to think about is self improvement. People take religion as a self improvement for themselves.
Some enjoy it.
although Guilt does create the sense that one wants to change. For example. You're guilty after gaining 50 pounds and eating jelly donuts for a month and a half straight. What happens? You stop... Or cut down pending on the level of addictiveness. New word lol
Guilt creates us to be better in ourselves. They don't rob me. Even though I am a christian for a spiritual reason, I decided to go to a church anglican, to become more discipline for myself and to learn even more about christ and myself to be more like him.
To be better every day. is that really a problem for atheist and agnostics?
that someone wants to be a better person each day even if fear and guilt pushes them to the brink of self enlightenment. really is it that hard to swallow?
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Originally posted by Matthew Dark
If I was struck down in the midst of rebellion, at least I would go to the grave knowing I chose my own path.
But...you're quoting the christian bible, which is a construct of man.
If it were the word of your god, then there would be no need to have it written down as it would be emblazoned across the sky.
Originally posted by Matthew Dark
reply to post by pixanomaly
I'd rather stand alone against insurmountable odds and be true to myself, then stand with millions on beliefs that I can not take to heart.
Originally posted by Matthew Dark
reply to post by FeralMonkeyMagic
Well, see, here's where it all begins to get a bit...convoluted...
The name of the angel who 'fell' was Lucifer, also I believe known as Samael (why he would have more than one name is beyond me).
The term 'Satan' was never used in reference to the angel persona, and that it was assigned to Lucifer after the fall is mired and inconclusive.
Being that the word 'Satan' simply means 'Adversary', it's more a title than an actual name.
Now, keep in mind, that the christian bible is essentially ripped off from a whole slew of other, older, religions and philosophies, and only the names were changed to protect the innocent (ha! a bit of humor there folks.)
It's been my experience that devout christians who swear up and down that the bible is the be all/end all word of law tend not even to know that much about it, other than certain passages that they use to excuse their atrocious hypocrisies (of course, there are exceptions, so let's not everyone get your undies in a bunch, okay?)
But, throw the word Satan out there, and every christian in ear shot all of a sudden is a freakin' expert and will profess to dictate that Satanism, in it's officially religiously recognized form absolutely, positively must be under the umbrella of christianity because the word 'Satan' is somewhere in there...which is just ridiculous.
I've known of a lot of people who may be 'experts' regarding the bible, but are educated regarding little else...by choice.
Satanism just represents (and I know I've said this before...) the celebration of earthly pleasures, refutation of blind faith, honor to one's self, responsibility to the responsible and the absence of guilt for having fun being human!
So, in closing...