A Satanic blessing on our powerful "Christians".

Originally posted by halfoldman
Well, what is the "Christian" ideal?

I believe it has something to do with lack of self awareness and the systematic brainwashing and/or total elimination of those who would think for themselves and refute the hypocritical teachings.

Originally posted by SmokeJaguar67

For a very long time I have been of the opinion that Christianity stopped being good the moment the true meaning behind the religion was hijacked to gain lands, wealth and prestige for the elite of old.

Ah...I assume you are referring to the Edict of Milan issued in 313 by Caesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus (better known to his friends as Emperor Constantine the Great). In some ways its been all downhill from there.

Still, don't forget a few bright lights down through the ages, like St. Francis, St. Theresa, George Fox, among others...

reply to post by Matthew Dark

Yes, and it has to do with making "every knee bow" to some humble carpenter, or rather the sociopaths who represent Him. (Granted, they are all Satanic men, so Hail to them.)
What I find unsure is that this ideal is always undecided between the carrot and the stick.
I'd say the devilish "stick" overrides it all, and without the devil that belief would be boring and colorless.
As LaVey pointed out: the devil is the best friend Christianity ever had.
The "ideal" is to try and obscure and forget that fact.
So for me that ideal is to hide the fact that morally their "Jehova" is no different to Satan/Lucifer. This Jehova commands genocide and rape in the first 5 books of the Old Testament. Similarly the child's natural fascination with the devil is redirected to a blood-thirsty spectacle of sickening torture and crucifixion.
The "ideal" thus becomes a pornography of deicide, while the magick law and content is reduced.
Perhaps, arguably there is no ideal at all, there is only deflection.

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Yes, christianity has taken the concept of a boogeyman used to scare children into submission, and elevated it to an art form...creating a system used to scare adults into subjugation.
I thought that, in this day and age, we were above such superstitious nonsense.
Then again, many, many of the populace are incapable of intellectual independence and need a 'father figure' making their decisions for them, lest they take responsibility for their own actions (shudder at the thought...).
I will not bow, I will not kneel, I will not submit to the tyranny and guilt placed upon my head.
I will not cry tears of blood in the name of some son of man who was persecuted and scapegoated and upon who's brow was placed a crown of thorns.
There is no savior other than ourselves, we are our own messiahs!
The christian 'god', does not speak to us in overt, public ways as we're told to believe. Men have the audacity to speak on their 'god's' behalf, and have the nerve to profess to dictate rules of 'morality' that they choose to ignore behind closed doors.
Hypocrisy!
We all choose our own path, and it is unfortunate that some choose the path of subjugation...oh ye of 'faith'...I would take pity on you if you were a pitiful creature...but you're not! You choose to be ruled over by men who tout the words of falsity and hypocrisy and talk of virtue while they rob you blind and instill fear and guilt into your very being.
That is no life, and certainly no life for me.

Originally posted by halfoldman

Hail to the dictators of the shadow governments, the Taylors, the Baby Docs, the Trujillos, the Mugabes, the Sudanese and Somilians; Uganda and Latin America.

excuse me, but could you please go into a bit more detail as to why you listed these specific family names / nationalities?

please be as descriptive and detailed as possible.

thanks.

reply to post by prevenge

Well sure.
They are all countries that are known to have had interference by a powerful US Christian group called "The Fellowship"/"the Family" (see Wikipedia for details or my thread on the Fellowship in Uganda).

Please read: www.democracynow.org... where many of these dictators are linked to the glaring right-wing fundamentalist conspiracy.
Charles Taylor in Liberia was important to me, because a famous US "evangelist" called Pat Robertson used funds for "Operation blessing" to haul mining equipment around in what was a nightmare of a country. www.answers.com...
Robertson and that whole cabal with their fingers in "poorer" countries came up much earlier, when he blamed Haiti's earthquake on Voodoo and some pact with the devil.
I believe Robertson to be highly "satanic" and a member of the Fellowship/Family. Therefore he also spreads their cold-hearted views.
So those countries are merely where I have seen the most blatantly wicked interference.

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Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by Dromadus

 

And of course God and Lucifer are together when they take a bet on Job's faith.

Lucifer is Jesus, but you already knew that. He wasn't involved in this story though....a random satan was.

Satan is like saying Jerk. Someone can be a jerk, that doesn't mean their name is Jerk.

Satan means Adversary. It is not an entity, rather a normal human being that performs being a Satan...adversary. This can apply to ANYONE even the Good Lord, just depends where you are standing.


Satan says to God. "Howbeit, now put forth your hand and and touch his bone and his flesh. He shall assuredly scorn you to your face."

God replies, "Behold him in your hand; yea, but keep his soul alive".

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand

Carl Jung was a student of Freud, who broke with his master and went beyond the "sexual theory" into archetypes. Part of Jung's quest was to rediscover Gnostic beliefs. Accordingly, Jung surmised that Lucifer was the shadow brother of Christ.
Perhaps even the twin and real Christ.
(There are two "Christs" and geneologies in the KJ New Testament.)

It's all none-sense....either way you see it. However, the Satanists have a function, and that's to make Christianity much more comical.

reply to post by laiguana

You mean slightly more comical than Jesus stepping on a cloud and floating up to heaven?



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I apologise for this but it has to be done...

FUNDIE FIGHT!!! FUNDIE FIGHT!!! FUNDIE FIGHT!!! FUNDIE FIGHT!!!

Come on atheists and agnostics - place bets now, BANZAI!!!

Parallex.

Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand

 

Carl Jung was a student of Freud, who broke with his master and went beyond the "sexual theory" into archetypes. Part of Jung's quest was to rediscover Gnostic beliefs. Accordingly, Jung surmised that Lucifer was the shadow brother of Christ.
Perhaps even the twin and real Christ.
(There are two "Christs" and geneologies in the KJ New Testament.)

Actually, according to the bible there are many Christs. Do you mean there was two Jesus of Nazareth? Off the top of my head...Cain, Lamech, Noah, Moses, Aaron, Saul, David, Cyrus, Joshua...it's a pretty long list.

Neh 9:27 Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.

Oba 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

Anointed as you know means Messiah, and the Greek is Christos which they in turn took form the Egyptian KRST....which is what Christianity is...Egyptian.

It's funny because Egypt is Mitzriam and Mitzriam is Mary. Now if she would just stop putting "the glory of the lord" in her hair...it's not hair gel Mary.

Peace

Originally posted by laiguana
It's all none-sense....either way you see it. However, the Satanists have a function, and that's to make Christianity much more comical.

I might be inclined to agree with that, had the christians not already done such an outstanding job of it themselves.

The false prophets and healers of tv are there for several reasons. First they are all NWO satanic operatives to get rich off the dumbed down souls that are in pain and misery. Second to give Christianity a bad name. Real tried and true believer and seekers of God and truth don't act like that. Third it is a set up for thier messiah so that so many will get thier stomachs turn by this false shade of Christianity that they will cling to anyone they feel is or may be the coming Christ.

reply to post by halfoldman


I know for sure it doesn't rain in hell. I really don't see any reign either.

All the wishful thinking aside, hell will be just that. That's why they call it

HELL

reply to post by Matthew Dark


I am glad to see a fellow sith.

That said.

You do realize that Satanism is as diverse as christianity right? There is no "true" satanism besides what you have been lead to believe is true satanism. Anton LeVay ( which is what i can assume you practice since you have referenced the satanic bible.) only practiced an Atheistic model of satanism. Where as traditional satanism is theistic, the literal worship of satan as a deity. Christianity in all forms is theistic (although i could be wrong, there may be atheistic christians in that they only adhere to jesus's teachings yet do not view him as a god of any sort) so to draw up comparisons between satanism and christianity we must first establish what branch of satanism we are talking about. Are we talking about Theistic Satanism or atheistic satanism? Luciferianism? A cult based on Azazel?

And a blessing to you my satanic brothers and sisters. May the Light of christ show love for your soul.

reply to post by randyvs

Assuming one believes in a literal heaven and hell (I think some self-styled Satanists do).
But how attractive does heaven sound? Imagine spending eternity with all the upleasant fundamentalists. Spending eternity wih a bunch of self-righteous jerks sounds like hell. The very thought sends shivers down my spine.
Besides, hell is quite relative and Christians are divided on whether it is simply seperation from God, or eternal roasting.
LaVey points out that when the Inuit people were told that hell is hot by missionaries they couldn't wait to get there.
It's a barbaric belief really - imagine all the infants that died and were too young to be baptized and "saved", who must now roast for eternity because of Eve's original sin. How could anybody enjoy heaven with that on their conscious in any case?

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reply to post by letthereaderunderstand

The Lord's blessing wasn't hair gel? You mean.... oh my, I always thought "There's something about Mary" . Wow, I'm really learning some interesting things.
I read about the twin Jesus Christ theory in Jonathan Black's "The Secret History of the World", which I found somewhat convoluted and therefore I cannot expand on it at present. Suffice to say that some Christians used the theory to explain the contradictions concerning Christ's birth in the Gospels, and two totally different geneologies. The one Christ twin died very young, and this is all supposedly some esoteric balancing act.

Originally posted by DeathShield

reply to post by Matthew Dark

 

I am glad to see a fellow sith.

That said.

You do realize that Satanism is as diverse as christianity right? There is no "true" satanism besides what you have been lead to believe is true satanism. Anton LeVay ( which is what i can assume you practice since you have referenced the satanic bible.) only practiced an Atheistic model of satanism. Where as traditional satanism is theistic, the literal worship of satan as a deity. Christianity in all forms is theistic (although i could be wrong, there may be atheistic christians in that they only adhere to jesus's teachings yet do not view him as a god of any sort) so to draw up comparisons between satanism and christianity we must first establish what branch of satanism we are talking about. Are we talking about Theistic Satanism or atheistic satanism? Luciferianism? A cult based on Azazel?

And a blessing to you my satanic brothers and sisters. May the Light of christ show love for your soul.

The Satanic Bible has been my main inspiration, and in South Africa the whole movement isn't very organized. There's been a lot of Christian fear-mongering and disinformation (deliciously devilish), which helps to create a powerful image of Satanism, but one must be careful about being too public. From what I've heard about the US is that some Satanists are card-carrying members of The Church of Satan, while some practise alone. For some it is philosophical, while for others the rituals are practical.
LaVey himself was a controversial figure who lifted his ideas from other sources, notably Aleister Crowley (how devilsh). Although the philosophy is atheistic/humanistic those who practise magic are arguably working with a degree of faith.
For me the Satanic Bible is unsurpased as a brief statement.
I'm planning to start expanding into additions like chaos magick. I once wanted to join the official Church of Satan, but from what I saw on the Internet there's a lot of petty squabbling, insulting and this one cursing that one (well, what was I expecting?). So for me being self-styled is best, and since Satanism is about personal liberation, joining an organization defeats the purpose of being a Satanist. I'm interested in the breakaway movements such as The Alternative Church of Satan, and the older, more mysterious Temple of Set (led by the famed military operative, Michael Aquino).
So there is a huge variety of "Satanisms", and I can only speak for myself.

Originally posted by Matthew Dark

We all choose our own path, and it is unfortunate that some choose the path of subjugation...oh ye of 'faith'...I would take pity on you if you were a pitiful creature...but you're not! You choose to be ruled over by men who tout the words of falsity and hypocrisy and talk of virtue while they rob you blind and instill fear and guilt into your very being.
That is no life, and certainly no life for me.

On guard pussy cat. At this moment I would like to challenge you on your bergade of self imposed rants. What people forget to think about is self improvement. People take religion as a self improvement for themselves. Some enjoy it. although Guilt does create the sense that one wants to change. For example. You're guilty after gaining 50 pounds and eating jelly donuts for a month and a half straight. What happens? You stop... Or cut down pending on the level of addictiveness. New word lol
Guilt creates us to be better in ourselves. They don't rob me. Even though I am a christian for a spiritual reason, I decided to go to a church anglican, to become more discipline for myself and to learn even more about christ and myself to be more like him. To be better every day. is that really a problem for atheist and agnostics? that someone wants to be a better person each day even if fear and guilt pushes them to the brink of self enlightenment. really is it that hard to swallow?

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