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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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In his own words...


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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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Great thread! Thanks for posting this! I knew about this abduction but never really looked into it much for some reason! I will definitely read up on it some more and also rent the movie!



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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I saw the movie when I was a kid. I never read the actual interview with Travis. Thanks for providing this info!

If what Travis told was true, then I find a couple of things very interesting.

1.) The aliens became frightened when he physically attacked them. Instead of punching him back or using some sort of force to subdue him, they walked out of the room and sent in somebody who looked human, probably to reduce Travis's stress so that the examination may continue.

2.) The man who looked human never spoke a word. Was he from Earth? Did he understand English, or did he not speak an earth language? Was he from another planet? Was he a creation of the aliens? Were the aliens probing and taking samples from Travis in order to clone other human beings such as the guy who escorted him?

This is a theory which is pretty out there, but what if this alien race abducts people in order to take DNA from people, so that they may populate some other planet? They wouldn't be able to abduct just one man and one woman. Variety in DNA is important to have in order to prevent inbreeding.
These aliens also could have easily killed him and dumped (or kept) his body, but they returned him back to his hometown, dressed.

Very interesting stuff, if true.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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The only reference I could see in the links to financial gain for Walton were the claims he did this to break his forestry work contract without penalties.

That wouldn't seem to be much of a reason to make up something that would dog you for the rest of your life.....


Then there's another link you should read. How about tens of thousands of dollars offered, then the guy offering it gets a phone call? I bought the Travis Walton story until I read this link and now after reading this I suspect it may have been a hoax, at best it's very shady.

"Profitable Nightmare of a Very Unreal Kind" by Jeff Wells



My paper had offered tens of thousands of dollars to anybody who could positively prove that aliens had visited our planet - in the knowledge that exclusive rights could be worth millions.

When, five days later, the young man we came to call "the kid" stumbled into a small western town, phoned his brother and claimed he had been kidnapped by the crew of an alien spacecraft we were ready.

Within an hour I was on a plane to rendezvous in a desert city with a team of reporters and photographers flying in from Los Angelesand the East Coast.

At the desert airport I bumped into one of them, a dapper young Englishman from the L.A. bureau, who briefed me. One reporter was at the cowboy's home talking money; the kid was inside in a state of shock.


You can read the rest of that story yourself but the offer of tens of thousands of dollars caught my eye, as did that the guy offering it got called.

Also look at these comments from a pro-UFO organization in that same link, called "Ground Saucer Watch":


"Ground Saucer Watch," a pro-UFO organization, was the very first UFO organization on the scene of the Walton "abduction". In cooperation with Dr. J. Allen Hynek of CUFOS, Dr. Lester Stewart of GSW began to interview the Walton family while Travis was still "missing." They immediately smelled a hoax. These are their conclusions, without any changes - RS.

1. Walton never boarded the UFO. This fact is supported by the six witnesses and the polygraph test results. [3]

2. The entire Walton family has had a continual UFO history. The Walton boys have reported observing 10 to 15 separate UFO sightings (very high).

3. When Duane was questioned about his brother's disappearance, he stated that "Travis will be found, that UFO's are friendly." GSW countered, "How do you know Travis will be found?" Duane said "I have a feeling, a strong feeling." GSW asked "If the UFO 'captors' are going to return Travis, will you have a camera to record this great occurrence?" Duane, "No, if I have a camera 'they' will not return."

4. The Walton's mother showed no outward emotion over the 'loss' of Travis. She said that UFO's will not harm her son, he will be returned and that UFO's have been seen by her family many times.

5. The Walton's refused any outside scientific help or anyone who logically doubted the abduction portion of the story.

6. The media and GSW was fair to the witnesses. However, when the story started to 'fall apart' the Waltons would only talk to people who did not doubt the abduction story.

7. APRO became involved and criticized both GSW and Dr. Hynek for taking a negative position on the encounter.

8. The Waltons 'sold' their story to the National Enquirer and the story was completely twisted from the truth.


When a pro-UFO organization has doubts, maybe I should too. And now I do, big doubts.

What's a little disappointing is that most abduction cases seem to happen alone when the victims could really be victims of "sleep paralysis", so the Walton case and the Hill case were abductions where sleep paralysis could be ruled out due to multiple witnesses. But apparently the witnesses in the Walton case aren't so credible, and even the Hill case has questions about whether the hypnosis retrieved memories or planted them, so I'm left doubting if anyone was ever really abducted.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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I always liked Travis Walton. When he left Walton's mountain to join the logging crew it made me very sad.
The show was never the same without him.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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Well composed, a good read. A star and flag for you.

The actor in the movie is Robert Patrick, amazed that he was referred to as the one who played Doggett from the X Files and not the T1000 from Terminator 2.

Showing my age...

Sendran.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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Thanks for your very interesting comments & link, Arbitrageur.

You know, it's very interesting the Waltons watched the "Betty & Barney Hill Story" just a little time before their "incident".

Ufology.......the truth mixes with the money & you end up with one big mess.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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Seems like as good a place as any to make my first post.

Travis Walton originally came back with reports of being taken to Venus where he saw cities, and had a very nice time with his alien captors. As the years passed he changed his story bit by bit. He doesn't talk about Venus anymore, but does say that the movie is nothing even close to his actual experience. What's even more interesting is how the early stories regarding his trip to Venus, and the sketches of its cities, have a way of disappearing, as the movie version of events become more dominant.

These things call into question what most people think of as "The Travis Walton Story". I actually believe he might have been abducted, but for whatever reason the things we hear about what happened can't be trusted.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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It could have been another ship that these small ships went to, or as I think it may have been is a base that is being used by the aliens (either underground or camouflaged. My problem is that he saw human looking figures that seem human and wouldn't talk to him. Where they human or another alien species? Where they earth humans ordered not to talk to him? I don't know what to think on this one. I do believe that he was abducted and this is one of the rare abduction cases where if I'm not mistaken multiple witnesses saw the incident and haven't wavered over 35 years. I think sooner or later we are going to see in HD video a UFO land and an abduction or attempt at an abduction via a security video feed. With more and more video cameras and phones and other divices out their we will get a good shot one day soon.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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I for one beleive he was abducted by aliens but most of his story is made up.He may have rememberd none of the abduction experience and made up what he seen to make it more fantastic and beleivable.He may have remembered some aspects of his alien abduction experience and filled in the gaps with lies.Most alien abductees usally get there memory of the experience wiped by the aliens or false memories planted in there heads to remember at a later date.There could be a good chance Walton beleives the memories of his alien abduction are real but in fact they are just false memories planted by the real aliens to confruse both him and other people he tells.A lot of aliens use use false memories of fake aliens and soroundings so to protect there real looks and protect the inside of there craft.For all we know the real aliens could look like ugly faced dried up tomatos but all all times they have to protect there identiny.Thats a security protocol most aliens use not only to protect there identiny from us but from other aliens too.There are a lot of aliens species that visit the earth who are not allowed to visit in the first place.In reguards to the pain he felt when he woke up on the table.There is a good chance that pain is a side-effect caused by the beam that knocked him out.

[edit on 15-1-2010 by GORGANTHIUM]

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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This may seem far-fetched but I believe the aliens left the room to transform into a more suitable attire because Walton could not handle the aliens true form. They must have some sort of technology that allows them to temporary change into a similar life-form to those they plan to abduct to calm the other intelligent organism now. I find this care facinating because he was able to go beyond the "operating room".

As for the theory in repairing Walton due to lets say radiation the aliens had to clean up their little evidence so there wouldn't be any proof in the incident.

my 0.02



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Travis Walton already admitted that he lied about the whole thing...



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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Travis Walton gave an interview awhile back and said Hollywood embellished everything after the part where he was taken on board the UFO. He said he complained about it, but the director didn't care. The director was just interested in making a movie that would attract movie goers.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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This, to me, is one of the few cases that lends credence to the abduction phenomenon. Here's a guy who passed a lie detector test and really has no reason to make this stuff up. While I'm still skeptical of alien abductions cases like this are far more intriguing than the standard tabloid junk about reptilians and being contacted by fourth dimensional beings from Jupiter via some new age psychic connection...

Thanks for going over the case again. Hopefully one day we'll have proof that this is happening but until then I remain an open minded but interested skeptic on the subject.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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Will put together star and flag.

I happen to live in the area that Mr Walton lives. A close friend of mine went to school with his son. Also another friend of mine works with him. He is a very odd person, and some what of a fruit cake if you know what I mean. He has no friends at the mill where he works. He and his logging buds were known for doing hard drugs back in the day even during and after the incident. Why would someone create stick with a story that is so far fetched that it would destroy his credibility for the rest of his life. The seances around here is about 50/50 on weather to believe any of his story or not.

Honestly I would like to believe all of his story, But I do believe most of it.

Best regards
The_Tick



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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Thanks for your very interesting comments & link, Arbitrageur.

You know, it's very interesting the Waltons watched the "Betty & Barney Hill Story" just a little time before their "incident".

Ufology.......the truth mixes with the money & you end up with one big mess.


You're welcome.

I see you're in Oz so I'm not sure if you're familiar with the National Enquirer, but let's just say if you're interested in the truth (either publishing the truth about your story, or reading about the truth of someone else's story), the national Enquirer would be one of the last places to go. So even if there's any truth to his story at all, they showed poor judgment in selling the story to the enquirer.

Granted I may find it hard to turn down tens of thousands of dollars if that's what they offered (which is like 2 trillion in today's money, ok not that much but back then, 20 grand was a lot) but if it had been me selling my true story, I would have taken a lower offer from a more reputable paper such as the LA times, just to avoid being associated with the National Enquirer.

But the timing of the money offer from the Enquirer seems too coincidental, the ink on the offer is barely dry when this "abduction" happens, LOL.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Would you provide the FACTS of this statement? Or would you like to just post it and go? TBH we really don't need that. As far as I am concerned this case is legit, barring the oddities aforementioned.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:00 PM
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G'day again Arbitrageur

Well.....

At least they managed to fit the story in between "celebrity cellulite" & "Dr Phil's $200 million dollar divorce".

Maybe he got mixed up when they rang him & he thought they said "National Geographic"!




posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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I think its important to compare this incident with others to see just how unique it is. Oh sure there are quite a few similarities, but when you scratch the surface, you find lots of little details which lend a new light to the entire abduction phenomena. I have just finished reading a book by Rupert Matthews, called Alien Encounters. It details quite a few of the more widely known cases , and all of those have a hell of a lot in common. This case is so different, its scope is wider and deeper. I am wondering if he simply remembered more than others about his expirience?
In either case, assuming his truthfulness, Mr Waltons expirience adds a depth and detail to an already interesting big picture of abduction. Its important that were we (ATS) to learn of a more recent and similar occurance, that a delegation be sent to aquire first hand testimony , and conduct a bit of a field examination of the area ? Just a thought.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by jkrog08
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Would you provide the FACTS of this statement? Or would you like to just post it and go? TBH we really don't need that. As far as I am concerned this case is legit, barring the oddities aforementioned.



I am fascinated with the whole story around the Walton incident. a couple of my friends that works with Walton thinks that the story for the most part was brought on by hallucinogenic drugs. Again for the most part I think that it is legit, but how much of it how can one know. I do not see a reason that he would lie about all of this, but some people do these things some times.





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