TA-THREATS: 'THEY ARE HERE' - U.S. Warns Of Al Qaeda Threat This Summer

If anyone listened to last night's Coast to Coast, Douglas Hagmann says that all the chatter they have picked up seem to say that Al Qaeda seems to be willing to attack as many refineries and gas stations as they can in one hit. Imagine all the smoke and dark clouds from such fires, this is reminiscent of the threat they said of the "black wind" that will cover all of the US. If this happens it will be devastating to us in the US, and this might bring some other countries down with us.

Originally posted by jsobecky
Astonishingly naive. There is a difference in a policy and an illegal crossing. Also, I'd take notice that the overwhelming majority don't bother continuing north to Canada.

I agree, Why go further north to Canada? Bush has all the benefits lined up and ready to dole out to illegals living in the US already. Anyway, you missed my point, are you sure it's just Jose and Sanchez coming across the border?

Why do so many people refuse to believe any of this? It's just a conspiracy by the Bush administration to stay in power...they just want to keep everyone living in fear...is it that friggin' hard to believe that they're just trying to watch out for us?

People! Democrat or republican doesn't matter--it doesn't matter who wins the election if everyone's dead! Dead people not only don't vote, they don't pay any taxes either. It is in neither groups' interests to let a large-scale attack occur. It is in everyone's interests to try and stop it. Granted, even a major attack isn't going to kill everyone (slight exaggeration on my part there, heh), but it's still not something anybody wants.

Sure, you can cure syphillis right up with antibiotics...but it's still not something you want to get!

Muaddib might have a point with the coinciding petrol station attacks. This would fit perfectly with Al-Qaeda's M.O. To attack refineries would also be appealing to them as well, what with all the gas woes we're having right now. Remember in Texas (?) back around the superbowl, when the guard at the chemical plant got shot by someone casing the place? Seems a little coincidental.

I kinda think it'll be something else though, or maybe a combination of things. Suicide bombers have been mentioned, although I don't think there'll be so many volunteers here as to make for much significance. Maybe the petrol refinery attacks...coupled with a dirty bomb or other chem/bio attacks of some sort. I really look for them to try and have a bigger impact this time around. Imagine the chaos if suddenly everything was covered in soot, gas jumps to $50 a gallon if you can even find it, and a healthy round of smallpox started circulating. The effect would be disastrous! This is the kind of thing I forsee them planning for us.

Yes, even those of us who think the whole thing is just a hoax by Emperor Bush I.

jsobecky... you are so correct. The Tex. Mexico border is a easy entry.
The coyotes get paid big money for transporting illegals. I'm sure they have no problems with transporting Al Queda members, since they're
in it for the money. But what can be done?..... Close the borders? I know there are other places they can just walk over.

"Isn't that the stupidest reaction from a new neo-commie? "

seeya.

This ignore button ROCKS!
People should use it more often. I'm so bored of seeing exchanges degenerate into this

"you think that because your a republican"
"yeah ? well you think that because your a democrat"
"Well drepublicans are Nazi's"
"STFU Democrats are commies"

Seriously, if someone brings any argument down to those sort of black and white levels just shove them on the ignore list. You will never convince them of anything and you will never get any information or perspective that is not saturated by the political line they have chosen to follow.

Anyway back to the question at hand.

For me its hard to believe they are just "looking out for us" because they seem to be suddenly tackling a "threat" which they seam to be suggesting is new. Its not, its been around for thousands of years, and, periodically, "terrorists" would attack us. Nothing has changed since 911, its the same world it was before, the government seems to have changed its line from "we should be careful about terrorist threats and investigate the possibilities" to "WE ARE AT WAR WITH TERROR!" and currently "terror" is any threat of middle eastern origin.

Weird, I mean, did white supremacist terrorist cells, black supremacist terrorist cells, Nazi terrorists, Irish terrorists, Spanish Terrorists and Chinese terrorists all suddenly disappear when Al Quaeda came along ?

They must be having a field day now the heats moved away from them.

You can't fight "terrorism" by conventional means and you can't protect your self by subscribing to the belief that you should live in constant terror, that's what they want.

Relax. Chill. Maybe there will be an attack tomorrow, maybe in the summer, maybe never again. Its like deciding never to go swimming again just because there are sharks in the water.

Weigh it up. Whats the more pleasant planet to live on. One where every 2 or three years a bomb goes off killing less people than were killed that year by cars, or a planet where 3 billion people live in constant fear.

Personaly I'll take my chances with the bomb. Thats how we survived the IRA.

Yup, that Ignore button is cool - it makes it so I read only what I agree with - Its "nice" that the world agrees with everything I say - Things are so blissful that way.

I used that ignore button the other day and you know what? The terrorism problem just seemed to solve itself - Things are so blissful now.

- passage from the book entitled, "victimology at its grandest"

Sarcasm button off.

Whether you believe the attacks are CIA, or Al Qaida.
Whether you are conservative or liberal.
Whether you deny ignorance or not.

Selfish self absorbed self centered narcissistic people are a danger to us all in that they will have us absorb attacks with a smile so as not to disturb their happy world view, This problem is something for other countries or people to handle, as long as it does not keep me from being happy - why bother. If everyone would just ignore these pesky terrorist's they would go away in boredom, fighting them is disturbing my happiness.

Ignorance through an honest lack of knowledge gets a pass, Ignorance as a purpose gets you killed.

How many disasters in modern times can be layed at the feet of purposeful ignorance? plenty, heres a few examples,

1930's, Socialist's the world over extoll the virtues of Stalinist Russia, behind the scenes Stalin murders millions.

1939, Neville chamberlain declares "Peace is at hand", behind the scenes Hitlers juggernaut is ready to set the world on fire.

1945, The holocaust is discovered, behind the scenes it was known about as early as 1942.

1950's, Hungarian uprising

1970's Pol Pot murders millions of Cambodians.

More recently,

Saddams purges
Rawanda
Sudan

Ignore things at your own peril, you may be next.

This is NOT a rant against liberals, even though I don't agree on their ways of doing things I do know that they believe they are doing the right thing and have some care for all of us, this IS a rant against apathy and inaction which is risking all that this country stands for because some only care for themselves.





[Edited on 27-5-2004 by Phoenix]

Well, first off, I will admit to scanning this thread. I wonder why the FBI is saying al Qaeda may target the Dem Convention, the WWII Memorial ceremonies , the Rep. Convention and the Summit in Georgia.
Geez, I don't know, if I were a terrorist, I'd try for something less obvious. Delta Chaos' favorite possible target is Yellowstone. I favaor the Hoover Dam. Why wait for a special day or week, when anytime will do damage.

Why is the FBI and Homeland Security not getting together and having joint presentations? Are they having turf wars? Are the FBI feelings hurt--do they feel HS is getting all the attention?

The idea of targets other than those mentioned above (the Conventions, etc.) was mentioned by Christopher Whitcomb, an ex-FBI agent who appears from time to time of Imus In The Morning, on MSNBC.
He also talked about the possible imcompatibility of FBI and HS.

Originally posted by ms_Bhavn
jsobecky... you are so correct. The coyotes get paid big money for transporting illegals. I'm sure they have no problems with transporting Al Queda members, since they're
in it for the money. But what can be done?..... Close the borders?

Anything we do will be futile without the co-operation of the Mexican government. Until then, it will be similar to you trying to keep a nice lawn while your next door neighbor is planting dandelions and crabgrass in his.

The same thing goes for Canada. There are those in here who do not agree that being a good neighbor matters. They allow terrorists to 'legally' enter their country and then say it is our problem if we can't keep them out of ours. This because of a naive, false sense of security they have because they have never been attacked. They are US-haters and apologists for terrorism. Some of them may even feel a perverse sense of pleasure over our problems. So much for co-operation.

One solution would be to build an impassable wall along the border. But we cannot do that, because as a superpower, it is our duty to conduct ourselves by a higher standard than the rest of the world. Sort of like being the only adult supervising a playground full of children.



[Edited on 27-5-2004 by jsobecky]

Who Canada lets into their country is their business. Who America fails to stop from entering their country is their problem. Take some responsibility for your own failures. You seem to be always blaming someone else.

Originally posted by intrepid

Are you implyimg that they are getting financing from Canada?

[Edited on 27-5-2004 by intrepid]

Not implying that at all. Canada doesn't have any money. Plus, it doesn't make sense...if they wanted financing, they'd go for real money, not the Canadian stuff. Just kidding!

No, it was just a general point that I had made in another thread. There's been a lot of focus on cutting off their financing, but they keep coming. I had made the point elsewhere that it might very well be the poppy fields of Afghanistan which is the source of their money.

Also, I had made the suggestion of offering a bounty for info leading to the arresst and conviction, etc. etc. That met with ridicule of the NRA.