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Originally posted by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
reply to post by trueperspective
No what I am pointing at is... and this is just but one example... we have killed over 100,000 Iraqi CIVILIANS!!! in the same manner as these pictures... But nobody knows that, unless of course you do your own research. Why would good old faithful MSM tell us that? They wouldn't... because people would be against the war. And guess what, war is profitable... so they wouldn't want to do that now would they???
And we definitely didn't bring them out of the stone age. If you think they were in the stone age before we invaded Iraq and went over to the middle east you are very misinformed... Yet again, another person blinded by MSM and unable to see the world as it really is.
We are there for oil, thats the true reality... and I'm sure for other political and monetary reasons. I don't deny the fact that we should be over there helping... But we are going about it in all the wrong ways... Killing and violence of innocent civilians?
[edit on 14-1-2010 by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx]
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I think it is very naive to think that some american troops dont do these things. There are thousands of cases that prove otherwise.
Thousands eh? Care to provide some of these cases to which you refer?
Originally posted by Sean48
Actually , you are the one who admits defeat
and refuses to debate people
Originally posted by grey580
Instead of posting here how pissed off you are. Call your congressman and tell him how you feel about this. And that he needs to do something about this right now.
This needs to be investigated and investigated now. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean that it's true.
However if it is true then we need to do something about it.
Their key findings are including Both Israel and Palestinian related:
• Israel's incursion was "a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorise a civilian population, radically diminish its local economic capacity both to work and to provide for itself and to force upon it an ever-increasing sense of dependency and vulnerability".
• Israeli forces committed "grave breaches of the fourth Geneva convention" which gave rise to "individual criminal responsibility", meaning soldiers could face prosecution.
• Israeli troops used Palestinian civilians as human shields, a war crime.
• Israel's economic blockade of Gaza in the years before the war amounted to "collective punishment intentionally inflicted by the government of Israel on the people of the Gaza Strip".
• Israeli actions depriving Gazans of means of subsistence, employment, housing and water, and denying their freedom of movement, "could lead a competent court to find that the crime of persecution, a crime against humanity, had been committed".
• Palestinian rocket attacks did not distinguish between civilian and military targets, caused terror among Israeli civilians and "would constitute war crimes and may amount to crimes against humanity".
• Gaza's security forces, controlled by Hamas, carried out extrajudicial executions and the arbitrary arrest, detention and ill-treatment of people, especially political opponents.
• Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier held captive in Gaza for more than three years, is a prisoner of war and should be released on humanitarian grounds.
Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
So this on-going war wasn't started when america gave half of pakistan to the Isreal nation after WW2..... because it wass their supposed homeland???
[edit on 14-1-2010 by FORMe2p00p0n]
Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
Well they sure look real to me to.
However we don't know who posted them.
We need an independant investigation into what happened there.
How would you feel if the images were posted by the KGB and have nothing to do with Israel or Gaza?
We need to verify then act.
Israeli military forces have demolished 17 buildings in the Palestinian community of Khirbet Tana for the second time. This is the only the most recent chapter in a long struggle for the small agricultural community to keep their lands. The Israeli army arrived this morning to the village in a convoy of jeeps and bulldozers and razed 17 buildings to the ground. The demolished structures included family homes, children’s classrooms and shelters for the village’s livestock. Several olive trees were also razed to the ground. In a statement issued by the Israeli military, the buildings were had demolished due to the fact they were "illegally constructed structures" built on a military training ground, "endangering the lives of those present". Khirbet Tana centered around two natural springs, lying 7km east of Beit Furik in the Nablus area of the West Bank. It is currently home to approximately 35 families, some of whom reside there permanently, and some who stay only during the spring and winter seasons due to the regions’ remoteness and harsh climates. Residents say that references to the villages existence date back to over 3500 years ago.
This is not the first time that this has happened. In 2005 Israeli forces demolished almost the entire village, leaving only the mosque, built over 150 years previously. Despite the majority of the dwellings having been built several hundred years ago, the military claimed they had been built without permission and thus had the right to demolish. The entire area was categorised as Area C – under full Israeli military and civilian control – in the Oslo Accords of 1994.
Residents also suffer from the ongoing threat from settlers from the nearby settlement of Mekhora, built on the lands of Khirbet Tana and Beit Furik. The settlers are ultimately those who benefit from the destruction of Khirbet Tana, as their agricultural projects continue to expand on to village land. On at least one occasion settlers have been sighted swimming in Khirbet Tana’s source of drinking water, a common method employed by settlers to pollute the water of Palestinian villages.
Two months ago Israeli forces confiscated four tractors from Khirbet Tana farmers, demanding 3100 NIS for the return of each. The farmers were then summoned to appear in court in Ariel settlement to ask for the return of the machinery.
Despite these hardships the villagers remain defiant, immediately starting to clear rubble and begin the rebuilding. Plans for a demonstration in Beit Furik are also underway.