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Originally posted by Dr Love
Originally posted by kenochs
To me that's a bit like saying 'gravity is a conspiracy to keep us all down'. It takes away from what I have always thought is a wonderful venue to examine the fringes of 'scientific' thinking.
I find it sad. Any thoughts?
Actually, "gravity" was created by God to keep us all from floating out into space.
Originally posted by troubleshooter
Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
reply to post by kenochs
I think Julian Jaynes' "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" will shed light on why religion and feelings of faith arise in virtually every single instance of human development and how the vestiges of our past are carried forward into the present through the expression of religious and political structures used for social control.
How did you get 'social control' from Julian Jaynes book 'Bicameral Mind?
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Religion is in its dying phase, and so of course when anything is dying, it makes alot of noise and whatnot.
I have known plenty of former christians whom have abandoned structured religion and found a more centered personal spiritualism and connection. As science progresses and more and more age old church philosophies show up quaint and primitive, the more people will walk away (thank God) and adapt to a new thinking pattern.
As this happens, those whom have spent lots of time and/or money on a specific religion and has lots invested in the status quo will become louder and louder...this is common. Remember, when paganism was rampant in rome and this little religion called christianity started making its mark, Rome got threatened and did all sorts of strange things..tossing the crazys into lion pits, executions, etc...they sort of knew the time of the many gods were ending (changing anyhow) and so went out loud and proud.
So, structured religion is ending...I give it another 1-200 years max before its some strange ancient myth that people wondered how anyone believed that was real (explained away that their knowledge of science simply wasnt developed).
hopefully our current religious businesses will go out softer than ancient roman paganism did..else expect alot of bombs and such as they become more backed into a corner.
Originally posted by kenochs
reply to post by Sky watcher
I've read the book, 3 times.
I've never found anything in there that comes even close to prophecy.
So, sorry, I've done my homework, but just don't see it.
I do though understand the previous argument suggesting that fundies take over thread because of their concern for my soul.
I just don't think this is the venue.
What's with the uptick in religious fundamentalism on ATS
Who knows, I don't have answers. But clearly a number of people see the same problem.