New Movie About Darwin, Called Creation., page 1
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Topic started on 13-1-2010 @ 10:18 PM by Blue_Jay33
Trailer for "Creation"

Since Charles Darwin got this whole THEORY of evolution going, this should be interesting to those who don't believe in any form of creation.

I am curious as to how those that are atheists and believe in evolution will view this movie.

Thoughts on the trailer?


reply posted on 13-1-2010 @ 11:20 PM by Kandinsky
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I saw the movie months ago. It was okay, but not really entertaining. The cast was good and Connelly was fine.

It was pulled from release in the US on health grounds. Apparently, there are still people that believe the Book of Genesis is a science tract. It was a worry that some of them might choke on their popcorn. The confusion when faced with a screen Darwin who was a normal person with a social life may lead to some folks literally stopping breathing. I'm led to understand that some actually believe Darwin only came out at night and had a sinister laugh.



reply posted on 14-1-2010 @ 12:19 AM by Blue_Jay33
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They won't show it in the US, isn't that blatant censorship.
If you censor wrong idea's, then soon the right idea's will be censored too.

Don't agree with that.
People need to be free to choose.


reply posted on 16-1-2010 @ 01:54 AM by iamcamouflage
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Maybe this movie will help explain to people that evolution and the idea of a god are not mutually exclusive. Evolution does not deal with what created life but how life changes over time.

Many of the IDers are so dead set on trying to disprove evolution that they fail to realize both can exist in the same discussion.

Evolution IS real. The debate on what or how life started is a completely separate discussion.


reply posted on 16-1-2010 @ 02:18 AM by Kandinsky
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Evolution IS real. The debate on what or how life started is a completely separate discussion.


This is a controversial perspective to take and I share it completely. Creationists have developed an idea that undermining the Theory of Evolution will somehow reveal God behind the curtains, pulling all the strings. Why should it? Even if Big Bang Theory gains more currency, it doesn't need to negate the concept of God for people that choose to believe. I heard an interview with a female astrophysicist that believed in God....



reply posted on 16-1-2010 @ 04:14 AM by iamcamouflage
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Absolutely. I am agnostic and I lean toward being a full blown atheist. I am agnostic because there is not enough information, for or against the existence of god. I dont know and neither does anyone else.

But for the life of me I cannot figure out why religious types try so hard to debunk things that have no effect on their precious god. Like you said, a big bang does not prove that there is no god, only that the big bang was the initial creation of the universe. Maybe it was a god or maybe its just part of an infinite universe. The creation of our universe, came from a black hole in another universe and on and on and on.

I think part of the reason may be that because religions try so hard to define what god is and what he/she has done with such certainty that when something comes along that forces them to move the goal post they feel as if this threatens their entire belief system.

God could exist, but the god defined in modern religion almost certainly does not.

The debate as to whether or not there is a god is fair and usually arguments can be made within reason. Its the argument as to WHICH god that causes all the problems. The big bang and evolution threaten Christianity and other religions, but they do not threaten the existence of god.

And this raises the question, what is more important to theists, the faith in their religion or their faith in a god? Two completely different discussions.


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 07:44 PM by davesidious
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Get a dictionary. Learn what 'theory' means in a scientific context.


reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 12:12 AM by Blue_Jay33
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Sure I will take this definition of theory.

2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.


Thus evolution IS a theory by that definition.


reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 12:36 AM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Agreed, but with one caveat there are those that believe evolution proves a begining and use it to attack the other boneheads you mention. But the argument SEEMS to have turned into factional silliness where one opposes the other simply because it's the other.



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reply posted on 18-1-2010 @ 04:56 PM by davesidious
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He won't accept the first definition as it blows his tiny, ill-conceived argument out of the water in one fell swoop. Even though I said 'in a scientific context'.

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