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Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by raiden12
I've experienced everything you talk about, but my interpretation is different. No higher dimensions, certainly no shutting down the mind. The notion is absurd. It's how the mind operates. If it's not working, we die.
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by raiden12
Thanks for the reply, but I'd rather not ever adapt something that I think a delusion. I've been there, and it's not a healthy state. I consider it to be borderline psychopathic. You mention being able to be more aware of your surroundings. I've already got this. I process all streams simultaneously. I can have headphones blaring, and still here everything around me. I can seem to be off into la-la land, actually internally visualizing various things, thinking in multiple streams, while still being entirely aware of my surroundings visually, and auditory. I have used different meditative techniques throughout my lifetime, but don't think there's anything supernatural to it, whatsoever. I am my thoughts. Not just the voice, but the imagination as well.
Originally posted by Maddogkull
A lot of people in this thread talk about how dreams are really an astral realm. While I do not rule out OBEs being real, dreams are entirely different. This thing that always bothered me was sleep walking. If the soul does exist, and leave our body when we dream, then we wouldn’t be able to sleep walk. Does any of this make sense to you guys?
Originally posted by raiden12
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by raiden12
Thanks for the reply, but I'd rather not ever adapt something that I think a delusion. I've been there, and it's not a healthy state. I consider it to be borderline psychopathic. You mention being able to be more aware of your surroundings. I've already got this. I process all streams simultaneously. I can have headphones blaring, and still here everything around me. I can seem to be off into la-la land, actually internally visualizing various things, thinking in multiple streams, while still being entirely aware of my surroundings visually, and auditory. I have used different meditative techniques throughout my lifetime, but don't think there's anything supernatural to it, whatsoever. I am my thoughts. Not just the voice, but the imagination as well.
Thank you for your comment,
I would not consider meditating to achieve inner silence to be unhealthy or borderline psychotic - in fact, i would consider not doing so to be absurd. If you don't have a stable silence and can keep that silent base without having anything interrupt it, how could you possibly have control over your reality? You are being influenced, and until you realise it's the mind that's doing the influencing with it's thoughts/emotions you will be lost in it.
People don't dedicate their lives to the pursuit of this knowledge because they are stupid or psychotic, they were masters, they were incredibly wise and they knew this information for many thousands of years, it's not new, we just lost it over time. If you are skilled enough, you will experience what it's like to observe reality from a level you never even dreamed of, you can leave this place through consciousness, observing reality at such a high level that time is non existent and the point of observation is eternal in nature and is not susceptible to the growth/decay/death cycle of the 3d environment.
Do you have any idea what the chances of your existence are right now? How could you not consider life to be more complex than this? Considering what's at stake, which is the progression of your evolution, don't you think it's worth looking into, for the sake of two weeks of experimentation?
Something to ponder:
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
When dreams come true, we have a dream/reality dualism that reveals dreams are more then just random information and have as they always have had, potential for reality.
Something I doubt many of you can even begin to fathom intellectually.
Actually, I said psychopathic, and I stand by that. Enlightened beings are just as dangerous as religious loons, as they're both fanatical. They both are after control, whether being aware of this or not. They both think that their interpretation of reality is absolute. Reality is not what we perceive. It exists independent of any one of us.
They dedicate their lives probably because they're bored of the mundane, and get lured in by others who are already brainwashed. I don't think they're stupid, just that they lack insight. As for reaching nirvana, no thanks.
Do you have any clue how vast the universe is? I have considered the complexity of life, time and time again. What I've concluded is that life is a subjective term. It's only narcissism, which leads us to say, this is alive, this is not alive. We relate things which are living in ways we easily understand with our feeble minds.
Originally posted by Maddogkull
A lot of people in this thread talk about how dreams are really an astral realm. While I do not rule out OBEs being real, dreams are entirely different.
You can exist in multiple spaces at once . . .
This thing that always bothered me was sleep walking. If the soul does exist, and leave our body when we dream, then we wouldn’t be able to sleep walk.
Yes it does make a lot of sense to me . . . but i wouldn't want you to take my word on it.
Does any of this make sense to you guys?
Originally posted by Maddogkull
A lot of people in this thread talk about how dreams are really an astral realm. While I do not rule out OBEs being real, dreams are entirely different. This thing that always bothered me was sleep walking. If the soul does exist, and leave our body when we dream, then we wouldn’t be able to sleep walk. Does any of this make sense to you guys?