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Pat Robertson: Haiti

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by de_Genova

Get a clue, get a life, get some common sense...get real. It's people like you that turned Christianity into a cult.


I realize the truth is sometimes very painful. Usually the ones who have the most vociferous response are the ones in the most agony. I understand your suffering and pray that you find relief - one way or another. God may bring you to it in spite of your resistance and your chronic persistence in your atheism. Sometimes the pain gets so bad that we hit bottom. Then you might be ready for a true conversion of heart and mind - and not any sooner, sorta like an addict in the final throe of an addiction. In the meantime I shall pray for the salvation of your troubled soul........Amen - Praise the Lord........


Go nuts...but not being a born again Christian does not equate with atheism...and recognising the many truths inherent in all faiths is not a sign of an agonised soul.

Please save your prayers and ministrations for those suffering in Haiti...and you might want to do a better job of it than Pat.




posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:01 PM
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This nonsense has gone on far enough. Haiti did not "make a deal with the devil" unless American Evangelicals are equating "the devil" with the US and the West in general.


Summary: Haiti was forced to pay France for its freedom. When they couldn't afford the ransom, France (and other countries, including the United States) helpfully offered high-interest loans. By 1900, 80% of Haiti's annual budget went to paying off its "reparation" debt. They didn't make the last payment until 1947. Just 10 years later, dictator François Duvalier took over the country and promptly bankrupted it, taking out more high-interest loans to pay for his corrupt lifestyle. The Duvalier family, with the blind-eye financial assistance of Western countries, killed 10s of thousands of Haitians, until the Haitian people overthrew them in 1986. Today, Haiti is still paying off the debt of an oppressive dictator no one would help them get rid of for 30 years. The rest of the world refuses to forgive this debt. So, in a way, maybe Robertson is right. Haiti is caught in a deal with the devil, and the devil is us. Update: mgfarrelly points out another thing I didn't know—the U.S. Congress is currently considering a bill called The Jubilee Act for Responsible Lending and Expanded Debt Cancellation. Part of what this bill would do is help countries like Haiti get their debt canceled, without making that cancellation conditional on things like closing down free schools or raising the cost of fresh water. May be a good time to contact your representatives about about this bi-partisan measure.


Your can see the full article here



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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For all concerned........let the historical record speak for itself.....the Hatian witch doctors (shamans) made a pact with the devil. No doubt about it. The populace joined in on the satanic conspiracy in anticipation of a 'better deal'. As earlier stated - you Americans are doing precisely the same thing only this time the witch doctors are cloaked in the disguise of the politician working for the so-called 'betterment' of the human condition. You have all been duped and guess what - ITS TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT - the die is cast and you will suffer greatly for it - as greatly as are the Hatians in this present moment - and then some............

Incidentlly.........Haiti is now a country occupied by the US Military. Not much of an attempt has been made at rescue - food and water, and after three days into the disaster there were NO MILITARY physicians on the ground in Haiti - its as though they are waiting for as many to die as is possible, and the CIA/Military will take care of the rest of those targeted for elimination. The first American response was a MILITARY one. Don't be at all surprised if the HAARP weapon wasn't put into operation here. America is under the impression that they can 'purify and rehabilitate' the island through forced occupation and coercive conversion. Nothing could be further from the truth. This covert action was something of a 'test' but more importantly it was not for the purposes of population control in this particular instance - but was designed to 'take over' the island. They represented a threat to the west and were a clear and present danger. Ask Chavez and the new Castro if you don't believe me.
Ugo
all edits are for purposes of spell check only and are done immediately after posting
[edit on 16-1-2010 by de_Genova]

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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by de_Genova
Personally - I have always known this to be true of Haiti. I would NEVER go near a Haitian native living here in America for the very same reasons Robertson is describing. Voodoo and Santaria are pretty much the "state religion" in Haiti. As soon as this happened I was very conscious of the evil and satanic nature of this entire island. This includes the so-called Dominican Republic. Its all one place - what you’re seeing are only apparent contrasts as though the DR were really prosperous and successful especially when placed against their counterparts on the other side of the island. Haiti is condemned and they have condemned themselves by participating in these evil practices.

Pay attention out there - THIS IS A SIGN FOR AMERICA - because you are in virtually the same danger because of your apostasy and the fact that you have turned from Christ and have become a Godless nation - an abomination in the eyes of God. Retribution is not far off - MARK THESE WORDS as the entire nation goes to the flames.

Robertson is just being honest but you Americans - in your trenchant godlessness and outright atheism are too blinded to see and your ears are deaf to the "WORD" who is Jesus Christ...shame on you all and may God have mercy on this nation - be prepared for a cataclysm: a total disaster wrought by the hand of God for your arrogance and disobedience. The cult of ritual human sacrifice - aka ABORTION - is enough, in and of itself, for God to destroy this nation as He did Sodom and Nineveh.........


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OMG, looks like Pat Robertson got an AboveTopSecret account...didn't know the old fool knew about the interwebs


Great how you try to sell your perverted cultish version of Christianity through fear mongering. Well done, your God will be so proud of your signs for compassion


Oh, and before you start throwing that "you are just an atheist in agony, find the light" bull#...stuff a sock in it crazy preacher man, I'm about as happy as one can get...even without your perverted, sick sick sick version of Christianity.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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MR XYZ - I'm about as happy as one can get...even without your perverted, sick sick sick version of Christianity.


My experience has been that persons such as yourself who make such bold claims as to their so-called 'well being' that usually far exceed the condition of the rest of us 'ordinary mortals', are for the most part - out and out frauds. In short - LIARS given to hyperbole and self aggrandizement. But as a consolation I have decided to include you in my 'prayer list' of incorrigibles and malcontents -
along with this other character -- JohnnyCanuck - Loyal Order of Screechers



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by de_Genova

MR XYZ - I'm about as happy as one can get...even without your perverted, sick sick sick version of Christianity.


My experience has been that persons such as yourself who make such bold claims as to their so-called 'well being' that usually far exceed the condition of the rest of us 'ordinary mortals', are for the most part - out and out frauds. In short - LIARS given to hyperbole and self aggrandizement. But as a consolation I have decided to include you in my 'prayer list' of incorrigibles and malcontents -
along with this other character -- JohnnyCanuck - Loyal Order of Screechers



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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The man is a God damn pig. How dare does this idiot judge other people! I think there is a special place in hell for people who pretend to be some one who can help, only to want more converts to his pathetic cause, and lets not forgewt those contributions. You really want to help? Stop giving money to this f*****!! There are many good charities out there. Give it to them. I hope this dupliitous bastered routs in hell.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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The man is a God damn pig. How dare does this idiot judge other people! I think there is a special place in hell for people who pretend to be some one who can help, only to want more converts to his pathetic cause, and lets not forgewt those contributions. You really want to help? Stop giving money to this f*****!! There are many good charities out there. Give it to them. I hope this dupliitous bastered routs in hell.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by de_Genova
I have decided to include you in my 'prayer list' of incorrigibles and malcontents -
along with this other character -- JohnnyCanuck - Loyal Order of Screechers



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by de_Genova
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Jonny me boy ............Do your wear Kilts in your Order of Schreechers?

Incidentally, you guys ought to lighten it up a tad.....your takin it all much too seriously. I'm not really the ogre that you make me out to - ya know? I'm merely the troll under the bridge..........watching, lurking, preparing for the ultimate pounce...........and with a smile all the while...


So you find the discussion of massive devastation and loss of life the appropriate place to make light, and act as a troll?
If that is the case then I say shame on you.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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If this were any other country but Haiti...It's eyeopening to see that some people get off on the suffering of others. I doubt our hunter/gatherer ancestors indulged themselves with such sport. Makes me wonder who the real savages are. In the the parlance of the fashion world: Haiti bashing is the new black. Sick sad world.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by de_Genova
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Jonny me boy ............Do your wear Kilts in your Order of Schreechers?
Incidentally, you guys ought to lighten it up a tad.....your takin it all much too seriously. I'm not really the ogre that you make me out to - ya know? I'm merely the troll under the bridge..........watching, lurking, preparing for the ultimate pounce...........and with a smile all the while...


Bad call, Dude..we're taking this pretty seriously...lot of money and effort being generated by average Joes and Jills. Canada has a kind of affinity for Haiti...our Governor General...basically head of state...is Haitian. This is on our doorstep too...over a thousand Canadians missing. RCMP teaching policing, missionaries, gone as well. It's the wrong time to troll.

And you might want to Google screechers



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 11:26 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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The man is delusional and admittedly forgot to take his medicine that day, and he drank on a empty stomach.

Compaing the DR and Haiti is like comparing Mexico and the US. Apples and oranges grown on the same chunk of land.

He also fails to remember the number of Christains and missionaries posted up over the entire country of Hait.

But the way he's into conspiricies, someone should U2 him, I'm sure he must have an account on here.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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The man is delusional and admittedly forgot to take his medicine that day, and he drank on a empty stomach.

Compaing the DR and Haiti is like comparing Mexico and the US. Apples and oranges grown on the same chunk of land.

He also fails to remember the number of Christains and missionaries posted up over the entire country of Hait.

But the way he's into conspiricies, someone should U2 him, I'm sure he must have an account on here.



posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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