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Mossad Tied to 'Underwear Bomber'

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by chips
reply to post by deltaboy
 


You won't get much sense out of ProtoplasmicTraveler. He's a condescending, Israel-obsessed fruit cake.

Good for a chuckle, though. A sinister, Zionist chuckle.

[evilchuckle1]


Kinder and more charitable words have probably never been spoken!

Alas I am also a sadist and words alone can simply not respond to such a charge. So I feel I have no choice here but to inflict by way of my response the first ever ATS appearance of Protoplasmic Traveler’s band!

You see my friend I don’t just bash elements of the New World Order but drums too!

Delight now in those long ago sounds when people dared to dream about peace and renounce war.

Hey, hey what’s that sound everybody look what’s going down!



This ought to teach you to follow Terms of Service Agreements!






posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Mossad Tied to 'Underwear Bomber'


Can this be confirmed yet? I enjoyed the thread right up until someone started posting about the expansion of Islam and what not. Then it turned into personal attacks.

Protoplasmic, you have the patience of a saint and a very good band. Thanks for the info you supplied. I knew there was a reason I put you on my friend list a while back. Stay the course.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Thanks jackflap, it never fails when a thread is critical of Israel for the 'World is under attack by Jihadists' crowd to show up and start preaching the evils of Islam!

It's all about deflection.

Orthodox Jews are no fan of Zionist Israel either.

The truth is that these Israeli firms are deeply inserted into our security apparatus and that does give them a lot of power that can be used against us if they choose.

Food for thought.

Thanks for the kind words.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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woo hoo Proto got a band.... nice!
I'll ensure I check it out when I get home!

You know the article states that israel has alot of power in many other countries I never thought of.

I don't know if zionism would want to expand itself in those areas, so I guess it's not about just land expansion but the extermination of muslims.

Thoughts?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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nnFolllow the al qaeda the days are pregnant thread it is only coming down to a false flag from israel and special warfare for the USA navy steve ahlberg.. false flag.. dont want it to be but the only soluton is they did t and they have no trouble murdering amerca!! Albert coaran and more names i have if anyone lke the UN want to investgate.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
woo hoo Proto got a band.... nice!
I'll ensure I check it out when I get home!

You know the article states that israel has alot of power in many other countries I never thought of.

I don't know if zionism would want to expand itself in those areas, so I guess it's not about just land expansion but the extermination of muslims.

Thoughts?






Those are CIA documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.

Once you read them you can see how key nations like Iraq factor into the Middle East Numbers Game.

The Zionists are oft fond of saying how they are but a small nation surrounded by a hostile sea of Arabs and Muslims.

That is quite true though of course they always exclude the real fact of how the Israeli Zionists broke all the Treaties and Accords is what made that hostile sea around them.

There are about 3 million Israelis surrounded by about 800 million Muslims.

Israel’s advanced military hardware courtesy mostly of the United States acts as a force multiplier though. Sophisticated conventional weapons systems can take out a disproportionate number of poorer armed troops.

Most of the Arab nations are poorly armed because we pretty much make sure they don’t receive the most advanced armaments since we here in the U.S. as a Government are the number one Arms Dealers in the World.

Of course the Zionists as well as the U.S. State Department puts a lot of pressure on France, Brittan, Russia and China the other major Arms Dealers who just all along with us happen to make up the U.N. Security Council (what a scam that is) to make sure Israel has a technological edge.

Things like Camp David and Oslo have paid off nations like Egypt and Jordan to not be belligerent towards Israel in exchange for cash, and the Saudis and Kuwait have too good of a thing going with their oil exports to want to have that interrupted by war, though they do provide a lot of money under the table to nations and movements fighting against Zionist Israel.

But ultimately as the CIA document shows Israel’s path to maintaining hegemony and dominance in the region is to keep the biggest Arab/Muslim nations like Iraq in turmoil and whittle down the number of Muslims through attrition just like they have with the Palestinians.

The War on Terror is a barely and thinly disguised Holy Crusade whose greatest supporters are Zionist and Neoconservative Christians.

It’s why we hear so much about the Jihadist angle from them, because that is where they get most of their real support from, religious xenophobes who are paranoid about the Muslims.

They like the Zionists are absolutely committed to a destabilizing war of Islamic attrition for power and for profit.

It’s pretty sinister to say the least but that is what the Zionists are doing running a numbers game to always try to affect the numbers that don’t favor them.

Basically the health, safety and general welfare of 800 million Muslims is paced as a secondary concern to the health, safety and general welfare of 3 million Israelis.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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This doesn't surprise me in the least for the Mossad's primary modus operandi is the all holy False Flag. I have said this time and time again, but they were completely behind 9/11.

Research the Lovan Affair, where back in 1954 Mossad unsuccessfully used a false flag event in Egypt to draw the US AND UK into a conflict.

en.wikipedia.org...

They tried again to draw the US into their 6 Day War with Egypt with the attack on the USS Liberty, an electronic listening ship that was very lightly armed. 34 Americans were killed and 171 Americans wounded. According to witnesses, the Israeli fighter aircraft tried to eliminate any and all witnesses and repeatedly fired on the ship even though the US flag was displayed AND they were sailing in international waters at the time.

en.wikipedia.org...

This recent incident with the Diaper bomber and potential ties to Mossad doesn't surpise me in the least.

They have Historically used False Flag events to draw the US Military into fighting their wars as we are now.

Because they control the Money....no more no less.

With the way the Zioinists own and control, the USA, I wouldn't be all that surpised to see Israel become the 51st state !




posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sean48

Originally posted by Iconic
I think that although the garment bomber has all these ties to the mossad, why would the mossad be attacking the US? It doesn't make any sense.

The head of the mossad shifted the entire division's attention to Iran, because Iran is going to # Israel up, supposedly.


They didn't attack the US , they just had to make it "look" like another

Muslim Al Qaeda tried to.


Well Al Qaeda was originally funded, set up and trained by the CIA (and that is public information; look it up), and supposedly still is. Just another American outfit to serve whatever unknown purpose we can dream up. It's just that reality often is even worse than imagination.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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its a very interesting topic and discussion.

However I do have to say the title of the thread made me smile with the image it brought to mind.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Here we go with another effort to displaying how the Jews have or want to take over the world. If you really believe that, one has to mention what does Isreal have to gain by supporting the "underware bomber". Nothing. And if it ever got out that Isreal did this, they can kiss goodbye to being the country that gets more aid from the US then any other nation. Having worked for the government, I developed relationships to several high government officials in Isreal. Believe me when I say they are not going to screw that up.

And yes I am well aware Isreal and most other nations do spy on us, as we do to them. Thats just how the game is played.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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From my so so understanding of Yemen, there are religious extremists there but they are not terroists.



That's not what it says. There is "no" Al-Qaeda located there. Doesn't mean there are no "terrorists."



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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Argenbright Security Inc. is or was the Security firm present at the originating airport of all four hijacked planes on 9/11, get your facts straight.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Tribesmen from Mareb, east of Yemen, warned al-Qaeda operatives to immediately leave their province, otherwise they will be struck like their comrades in Arhab, Abyan and Shabwah. In a statement published by the state-run media, the tribesmen warned the al-Qaeda operatives to stay away form their province Mareb, in particular from Abaida valley, saying it was seen as safe haven planning many terrorist acts.

www.yobserver.com...



Yemen has said it will not tolerate foreign fighters on its soil, following a pledge by Somalia's al-Shabab group that it would send fighters to help an al-Qaeda affiliate in the country.

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YEMEN - The Yemeni government has declared an open war against al-Qaeda, which has been increasingly growing since January 2009 when the Yemeni branch merged with the Saudi branch to form the so-called al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
www.yobserver.com...



Together with all our brothers and friends, we insist on fighting such challenges, particularly the Al-Qaeda Organization and the Huthists. A few days ago, we called for a dialogue with all the political forces representing both the opposition parties and the authority. We have called for a dialogue without resorting to violence or force and without disturbing public peace. Dialogue is the best method; it can even include the Huthists and Al-Qaeda provided they surrender their weapons, abandon violence and terrorism, and return to reason
-Yemeni President Saleh
www.sabanews.net...

There is alqaeda in Yemen because of it's tribal society, lack of infrastructure, and imo, because countries will not tolerate it's existence in their countries.
That is not to say every terrorist group is alqaeda, which is what the msm will have you believe, however, they do exist, and are trying to regroup in Yemen.


[edit on 13-1-2010 by heyo]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Obama wants $33 billion more for war


Please keep this in mind - it's easy to vilify Obama since he is the titular head of the USA and it's vast war machine, BUT - and I say this while in agreement with your initial post OP - Obama is being manipulated from within by the CIA and Pentagon, while being manipulated from without (Mossad), while dealing with an actual enemy (the Taliban, Iraqi insurgents). the Pentagon and the "military industrial complex"wants it's war machine well funded, and Israeli intelligence wants the US smiting it's enemies for it, all of these conspire to push any president to get their goals met. I for one DO NOT believe Obama is "in on it". He was too much of a journeyman at the time he ran for president and almost certainly took the Pentagon, CIA, and MIC by surprise just as the rest of the US and world were when he won the office. Ever since then the "terrorist threat" has been grabbing headlines in increasingly more blatant false flag ops. It's 911 all over again, just on a much smaller scale.

If they DON'T GET THEIR WAY, that's when they'll send a more potent message.


Edit to add: Vilifying the average Israeli is like vilifying the average American, let's face it, they are being manipulated by their respective intelligence agencies and military. For the US it's all about $$ and power, for Israel it's survival.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by frankensence]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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After reading the other posts and adding that to my intuition on the underwear incident I've come to these thoughts. I could have caused more explosive havoc with my underwear after a stop at a Taco Bell. This guy was duped and the reason he panicked was nothing happened other than he set his nads en feugo. It's hard to deplane with a burning lap.

Second, we are winding down in Iraq and the Israelis (and likely the Saudiis too) don't want us going home. A little diversion in another crap hole and it's like Michael Corleone said: "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in." So many nasty terorists and yet only the screw ups get on planes. You've heard all the eye witness reports of the passport nonsense with Mr. Doubtfire. What else could it be but the damned security were making this happen. They knew he wouldn't succeed aside from stirring the pot once again. Obama was so surprised and incensed at the security lapse he played two more rounds before addressing it in the media. Bush must have laughed his ass off at that. They're both jug-eared goofs.

I wonder who owns shares of the body scanners?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Iconic
I think that although the garment bomber has all these ties to the mossad, why would the mossad be attacking the US? It doesn't make any sense.

The head of the mossad shifted the entire division's attention to Iran, because Iran is going to # Israel up, supposedly.



Because if the US is attacked by a Muslim extremist, individual or group, it will raise the possibility of further action against these people and groups, which more than likely in some way benefits Israel. Say for example Mossad detonates a nuke or bomb on American soil: thousand of people die, Iran gets blamed, chaos ensues, and post-9/11 enthusiasm returns to the American public and government. The US then goes to war with Iran, or at least takes action against Iran in some way, saving Israel all the trouble.
It does in fact make plenty of sense that Mossad may be trying to encourage action against Israel's enemies, just so they can sit back, stay safe, and watch the world do their work for them. If there would be another successful attack on American soil, someone WILL suffer consequences for it, whether or not they were the true responsible party.

I have to edit to add: IF some kind of attack on the US did take place, and Iran got the blame for it, I can definitely see it creating one holy sh#tstorm, especially with all of the revolts and protests going on over there. Not only would Americans be outraged, but a huge portion of the Iranian public... It could be the perfect final step towards overthrowing the Iranian government.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by trollz]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
ALSO...................



ICTS Europe embarked on the new millennium with an increased pace of expansion. Assisted by the acquisition of ICTS Europe Holdings B.V. by Fraport AG (2002) the group continued to expand operations into new locations:

•The Netherlands: ICTS-NAS is awarded two major contracts for Access Control and Checkpoint services at Schiphol Airport Amsterdam

www.ictseurope.com...


In other words that is a lie!!!!

Access control and checkpoint services at Schiphol!!!!!


A debunker claims that ICTS just delivers equipment and knowledge, the airport security and local police handles the security



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

Important Notice, 28 December 2009

Following the terrorist attack on DL/NW Flight 253 on 25 December 2009 , there have been incorrect reports linking ICTS Europe to the event.

We would like to make it clear that ICTS Europe Holdings B.V. is not connected in any way to the mentioned events. ICTS Europe does not provide any security services, nor any other services, whether directly or indirectly, at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport and is not connected in any way to any of the companies that provide security services at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport.

You missed this:

ICTS provides enhanced airline security services for over 200 carriers at over 65 European locations.

These services include:

* Enhanced passenger and baggage security
* Security interviewing
* Travel documentation verification
* Security at check-in, gate, and duty-free areas
* Baggage X-ray
* Aircraft inspection
* Control of boarding passengers
* Security checks at ramp areas immediately surrounding the aircraft and other related areas.
* Catering security
* Cargo security

ICTS provides specialised services to US carriers at 36 European locations, - servicing more than 150 flights each day in compliance with the procedures of the US Transport Security Administration (TSA), local regulators and of the airlines.

ICTS is the main security vendor for the European operations of Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines and United Airlines. We are also the sole provider of security services at all of American Airlines’ and US Airways European stations.

www.ictseurope.com...

Delta is the parent company of Northwest.

I think ICTS is lying when they say they're "not connected in any way."



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Wonder if the ICTS is a key player in the global trade of coc aine and heroine?
I despise drug dealers.


[edit on 13-1-2010 by seasoul]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by nh_ee
This doesn't surprise me in the least for the Mossad's primary modus operandi is the all holy False Flag. I have said this time and time again, but they were completely behind 9/11.

Remember Mossad's official motto: "By way of deception, thou shall make war."

Former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky even wrote a book titled "By Way of Deception."


[edit on 13-1-2010 by GoldenFleece]



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