The Truth About Gun Control

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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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This email I received today speaks for it's self.

After reading the following historical facts, read the part
about Switzerland twice



A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1..5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated


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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated..

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them
of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens.'

Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY MALE OVER 18 A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE TO AS A MEMBER OF THE MILITIA. HITLER DIDN'T INVADE SWITZERLAND BECAUSE OF THIS. HE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SAID, " SWITZERLAND DOESN'T HAVE AN ARMY -- SWITZERLAND IS AN ARMY."

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!



I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!

If you are too,

please forward.


Just think how many freedoms our federal government is taking!

They think the above mentioned countries just didn't do it right.

Learn from history.




posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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i 100% agree with you and i have said this many times-
the japs in ww2- i believe it is was morimoto?- who said "we do not dare invade america because there is a gun behind every blade of grass"
damn right why we need guns to protect our country!!!
unfortunately now we need them to protect from our own damn corrupt govt
and thomas jefferson said something along the lines that every 100 years or so we need to rise up and otherthrow the gov't to show them who is actually the boss of the country- which is SUPPOSED to be us citizens- not the criminals in gov't or the bs bankers that live overseas and run our economy. we should have a right to say where our tax money goes- not the other way around.
and now i can't wait to see how much money nobama sends to haiti after the earthquake- screw them-tell them to deal with it on your own
and don't even get me started on the bonuses for bank employees after OUR tax money bailed them out


[edit on 12-1-2010 by bigfoot1212]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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Gun Control Isn't About Guns....It's about CONTROL
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S/F!



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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Thanks bigfoot
If the email doesn't get your attention, learn how to bow while shuffling backwards with your palms pressed tight. Barefoot. lol



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Signals
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Gun Control Isn't About Guns....It's about CONTROL
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S/F!


some what
We rednecks say it is disabling the target when pulling the trigger.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Donny 4 million

Originally posted by Signals
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Gun Control Isn't About Guns....It's about CONTROL
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S/F!


some what
We rednecks say it is disabling the target when pulling the trigger.


I am a fan of the saying, 'Gun control means hitting your target.'

I know in reality though, that it is all about control. As Hitler said about the Swiss and as a high ranking Japanese official said about America with a gun behind every blade of grass.... That is exactly why Americans need to be armed. It balances the power between the Gov't and the People.


and OP S&F for you.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by sporkmonster]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by sporkmonster

Originally posted by Donny 4 million

Originally posted by Signals
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Gun Control Isn't About Guns....It's about CONTROL
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S/F!


some what
We rednecks say it is disabling the target when pulling the trigger.


I am a fan of the saying, 'Gun control means hitting your target.'

I know in reality though, that it is all about control. As Hitler said about the Swiss and as a high ranking Japanese official said about America with a gun behind every blade of grass.... That is exactly why Americans need to be armed. It balances the power between the Gov't and the People.


and OP S&F for you.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by sporkmonster]


Thanks for the S/F spork and signal.
I'll pass them on to my Dad, Uncles and Grad fathers and their dads.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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they want my guns they can try and get them- just bring alot of bodybags.
and spork that is what i said and the other i have in my signature- in case you didn't read it



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by bigfoot1212
they want my guns they can try and get them- just bring alot of bodybags.
and spork that is what i said and the other i have in my signature- in case you didn't read it


I almost never read people's sig's. I end up skipping them like I would advertisements.

Although I echo you in your statement of TRYING to get the guns from americans, TPTB that want gun control will not go blunt force. You don't attack the hardened edges of gun rights. You dig under the structure to remove all stability, then you attack. Guns will be demonized, gun control advocates in Gov't will spin it so as giving up your guns would be the american thing to do. I can just see them putting out propaganda to encourage you to report your neighbors for "illegal" possession of guns.

Personally I think that one of the big propaganda offenses in this country is Henry Anslinger's anti-cannabis film 'Reefer Madness'. Not to advocate or condone the usage of said substance, but that man had an agenda and lied, disparaged and discriminated against many, many people. The term 'marihuana' was slang for smoked cannabis by mexican immigrants. He got the first cannabis ban in I believe 1937, Yet after the USA entered WW2 they put out propaganda posters urging, actually forcing, farmers to grow HEMP to help the war effort. It's so bad one year then 6 years later it is a vital part of the war machine.


Sorry for the short rant on cannabis but propaganda is ALWAYS bad. Weather you agree with the premise or not.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by sporkmonster]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by bigfoot1212
they want my guns they can try and get them- just bring alot of bodybags.
and spork that is what i said and the other i have in my signature- in case you didn't read it


Before or after you soil yourself..
Gotta love these internet tough guys. Just to let you know...these targets WILL be shooting back..not like animals and non moving targets, just because youyr a good shot with those...it will be a lot different when your under fire. Personally I hope you and the other internet tough guys try....that way we don't have to read the same ol' line over n over...you know the one ...JUST COME AND TRY TO TAKE MY GUNS...when your dead and taking your guns...you will look down and say..damn..they did they really did..I wasn't serious.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by bigfoot1212
they want my guns they can try and get them- just bring alot of bodybags.
and spork that is what i said and the other i have in my signature- in case you didn't read it


Before or after you soil yourself..
Gotta love these internet tough guys. Just to let you know...these targets WILL be shooting back..not like animals and non moving targets, just because youyr a good shot with those...it will be a lot different when your under fire. Personally I hope you and the other internet tough guys try....that way we don't have to read the same ol' line over n over...you know the one ...JUST COME AND TRY TO TAKE MY GUNS...when your dead and taking your guns...you will look down and say..damn..they did they really did..I wasn't serious.



I agree with you. Other than your sarcasm in the first line. The people shooting back will be trained in such situations. It could be a very scary scenario. It is likely that there would be a large number of casualty's. Our Gov't. will not do such a thing until they can change the majority of the public's perspective on guns though.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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Do you think we could get Cheech & Chong to do for guns what they did for MJ ?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by sporkmonster
 


Do you think we could get Cheech & Chong to do for guns what they did for MJ ?


No. Also that is taking this convo into an area that ATS does not want us to talk about.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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As Sun Tzu said, echoed by Von Clausewitz, from a military standpoint the first thing that needs to be done when engaging the enemy is to disarm them. When the government is disarming its own citizenry then, it should be clear how the view that citizenry.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by sporkmonster

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by sporkmonster
 


Do you think we could get Cheech & Chong to do for guns what they did for MJ ?


No. Also that is taking this convo into an area that ATS does not want us to talk about.


Ok then how about Charlie Sheen and a couple clips from Platoon?
Ken Burns and The Civil War?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
As Sun Tzu said, echoed by Von Clausewitz, from a military standpoint the first thing that needs to be done when engaging the enemy is to disarm them. When the government is disarming its own citizenry then, it should be clear how the view that citizenry.


It would be great to get some Canadian points of view.
How long has Australia been gun free?
I have read they are having problems.

Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009 ...
Western Australia has had an unlimited (open) amnesty, and gun controllers ..... got Australians excited about the "gun problem," then peaked a bit in '92, ...

www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html



Gun controllers are fond of claiming that gun availability to the individual often causes the individual to kill someone, and that these killers are mostly just normal people like you and I. Since the buyback, Australia's homicide monitoring program has observed that the huge majority of gun homicides have been committed by people not legally allowed to have a gun, using unregistered (illegal) guns. Does this mean that a similar portion of those with guns don't possess them legally? The same program observes that a large majority of those who commit homicide had a prior criminal history, which is consistent with what criminologists have known for years.
It is intriguing that the gun homicide rate peaked a bit in '88, the year after the Hoddle St. and Queen St. shootings that first got Australians excited about the "gun problem," then peaked a bit in '92, again the year after the '91 Strathfield shooting (and two after the '90 Surrey Hills shooting). The gun homicide rates in the years in which these incidents occurred were similar to rates for other years. The Port Arthur massacre and the other mass shooting in '96 did noticeably increase the rate for that year.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 10:40 AM
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I know this for a very very long time. That is why I'm all for the right to bear arms. But I don't want to energize the weapon industries and gun culture too much either. Gun culture produces gun nuts, and I don't like that. Balance is the key.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by bigfoot1212
they want my guns they can try and get them- just bring alot of bodybags.
and spork that is what i said and the other i have in my signature- in case you didn't read it


Before or after you soil yourself..
Gotta love these internet tough guys. Just to let you know...these targets WILL be shooting back..not like animals and non moving targets, just because youyr a good shot with those...it will be a lot different when your under fire. Personally I hope you and the other internet tough guys try....that way we don't have to read the same ol' line over n over...you know the one ...JUST COME AND TRY TO TAKE MY GUNS...when your dead and taking your guns...you will look down and say..damn..they did they really did..I wasn't serious.
You do have a point. In that view, however, shouldn't the highly trained English Army have kicked the American colonist's (untrained and mostly never been in combat) collective butt? Is that why we couldn't win in Vietnam over ill-equipped, untrained irregular troops??? Hearts and minds have something to do with it too.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Great facts. Truly appreciated.

I think what I love the most is that there are no citations, only random numbers. I mean, sure, anyone could just pop numbers in a sentence and call it fact. And sure, maybe a lot of this is hearsay, but wow, so inspiring.

The way you, and others like you, copy and paste emails and websites here is truly an inspiration as well. Void of thought is the way I prefer to live my life. Angry and in fear for the win!

I'm going out right now to search for some great copypasta to bring back here. I'll be sure it contains no references to where it draws it's 'facts' from (and bonus points for me if I can say 'these facts are published anywhere', right?).

There is no higher calling than to fight fear and ignorance with fear spawned from ignorance.

May whatever God you worship bless you and shine their light upon you.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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S/F !

I own a variety of guns and enjoy shooting whenever I can. Bloody rounds are expensive these days though!. Got my concealed permit too. If you obtain them legally there should be no problem. Pass better laws ,of course bad people will still get there hands on them. So why take a legal man's gun? and the right to defend yourself and family. I hope it never happens in the U.S.
Already knew most this info but thanks for sharing.






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