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An ability of HAARP that surprised me.

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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 07:08 PM

In this story about taking out Iran's nuclear facilities, they say that HAARP can see these tunnels under ground. The one in Alaska can't reach Iran, out of range but the are thinking of putting one on a ship.

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:02 PM
Good luck with that - seen the aerials at HAARP, and the massive power grid to power it?

HAARP does operate as a RADAR set. OTHR is my bet.

Not sure how it can be too far away though.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by mirageofdeceit]

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:53 PM
Supposedly Nikola Tesla knew Goethes Faust by heart and he was walking in the city park with a friend reciting it when he came upon the conception of alternating current motor.

The low retreats, done is the day of toil;
It yonder hastes, new fields of life exploring;
Ah, that no wing can lift me from the soil Upon its tract to follow, follow soaring!

He used his mind as an internal drawing board because paper lacked the reality to his ideas..

He also remarked once about inventing a machine that could project human thoughts on a screen, much like a modern television...

I've read in The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla that HAARP High-Frequency Active auroral Research Program was mainly an academic project to change the ioniosphere to improve communications for our own good. Twelve original patents are the backbone of HAARP and are now buried among the thousand of others held in the name of Raytheon.

The natural global circuit known as the Wilson circuit, where the ionosphere is maintained at a positie potential of kilovolts, relative tot he earth. It was recreated unnaturally in order to try to bring rain to areas of Siberia, but it disrupted weather over North America. What he did was create giant magnifying transmitters to act as global generators and artificially create the same global electromagnetic circuit functions that are naturally created by a thunderstorm activity. I think if anything, this HAARP thing is being used to modify the weather to save mnkind.

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:47 PM
HAARP is pretty rockin from my nerd standpoint.

a tool is a tool, and it's usage is dependent on it's user. To one person, a hammer is a hammer. To another, a screwdriver is a screwdriver, a prybar, a hammer, an electrical connection, ect.

HAARP is not evil. Who uses it... may or may not be evil. HAARP is cool. IMO.

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:08 PM
reply to post by mirageofdeceit

The navy is good at building nuc reactor power plants for ships so the power is not a difficult issue. Take an old aircraft carrier, you have the square footage you need to set up the array and an added reactor for just the haarp. They can do it with off the shelf equipment.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by Pappie54]

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:59 PM
reply to post by Pappie54

I can find no information about HAARP being used successfully to "map out tunnels" but the Extremely Low Frequency radio waves which HAARP is capable of producing in the ionosphere have been suggested as being able to be used in ground penetrating radar applications. Naturally produced ELF signals (lightning, aurora) have been used with limited success for this purpose but, being naturally produced, they do not always cooperate with the researchers.

I think the comment about putting HAARP on a ship may have been a bit tongue in cheek. The HAARP antenna array covers 35 acres. That would require a pretty large ship, about 8 times the size of a Nimitz class carrier.

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 11:10 PM
could you elaborate on what mapping out tunnels means? I am just confused and new here so sorry. Do u mean it is a radar system or a tunneling system (sorry if this is dumb).

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 10:33 AM
reply to post by Phage

There's talk of it here

The HAARP facility can also be used to produce low frequency signals. These signals are identical in all respects to more commonly known broadcast signals like AM, FM and Television except that they have a lower frequency, typically less than 15 kHz. Signals in this frequency range can be produced in the ionosphere by modulating the HAARP transmitters at these frequencies. Research utilizing low-frequency signals is exploring several possible applications. One of these areas is geophysical prospecting, that is, the search for underground mineral resources. In this highly sophisticated field, one of the conventional approaches takes advantage of naturally occurring signals originating in the upper ionosphere that penetrate into the Earth's crust and reveal information about underground structure. This technique is limited because the natural signals occur in random fashion. In contrast, the low frequency signals produced using HAARP, although not as strong as those occurring in nature, are known precisely in time and phase, and more sensitive detection techniques can be utilized to great advantage to yield potentially significant improvements in the field of geophysical prospecting.

The detection of underground structure is important for national security reasons as well. Existing military surveillance systems can monitor potentially threatening activities above ground. But there is no simple way to detect clandestine activities underground. The possibility that such activities might be aimed at developing weapons of mass destruction is a major concern. Congress has assigned responsibility to the Department of Defense to address this national security issue of counterproliferation. The same techniques being explored and developed for the detection of mineral resources are also applicable to this problem. In an early experiment, very encouraging results were obtained when a known underground tunnel was successfully detected. Further work is underway to refine this capability.

HAARP is so woefully underpowered that it can't detect anything more than a few hundred miles from it, though.

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