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Magnitude 7.0 - HAITI REGION

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posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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I wonder how many troops or units of military personnel will be needed to take care of the more than 3 million people that will need assistance, medical care and perhaps relocation to avoid lawlessness and riots.

Anybody even have an estimate?




posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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I'm HAPPY to see the US in there with the rescue dogs - gorgeous creatures that look so HAPPY to go to work - but I am detecting a lot of propaganda in the coverage - and it is not so much - well - nationalism - as it is...gosh I'm kinda a liberal and I hate to say this....this almost constant, every few minutes - "Where is the govt?"

There was a lot of VERY subtle jabs at the Haitian govt even as they were reporting that the police presence was there and trying - but jeez louise, the Haitian govt is as affected as everyone else, maybe more so with the prison collapsing.

The propaganda that I am feeling is being forced down my throat is this idea that the people are powerless and ONLY government can do anything.

Now I've got 2 eyes, 4 really, lol, and I've been seeing Haitians everywhere help each other. Yeah, govt is really needed, but it's this ra-ra-ree, government will feed and clothe you and save you even in a 'BIBLICAL' disaster. YOU CAN TRUST US.

And the Norwegians I heard were there first, and hit the ground running. Not that it is a contest or anything. Yeah, there's grandstanding. Clinton mentioned Hillary 4 or 5 times when it didn't even make sense for him to.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Anzio6 RT @washingtonpost: Haitian Red Cross believes between 45,000 and 50,000 killed. #haiti
less than 20 seconds ago from web



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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CYofRelief RT @weirdchina: Aid workers in Haiti face a logistical nightmare http://(link tracking not allowed)/7NKtDA #haiti
less than 20 seconds ago from TweetDeck

Reports the entire civil service of the Haitian government is dead.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Lord have mercy, this is just terrible, my daughter just found out that one of her former college roommates entire family was in Haiti during the earthquake, she is American and so her family but they live and conduct businesses in Haiti, so far she have not news of her family.

My prayers goes to her and all those that are waiting for news of loves ones.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Indeed. I just think it unfortunate that someone tried to turn this into an 'All hail America' thread. I should kinda hope America IS there, seeing as it is on the doorstep and all.... Lots of nations have help already there or on the way. And lots of organisations and private individuals are getting involved. This is not an occasion for, 'We are the biggest and the best' mentality or a competition for who got there first.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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SnarkehSharkeh RT @firesideint: Men are starting to collect bodies off of the streets in PAP. Saw a truck piled high.This will help with the smell. #Haiti



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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Since the coup in the 90s that US had to intervene to restore order and government, the Haiti nation military was disbanded, the government only have the police elite force to protect the palace and president, but beside that the UN was station in Haiti to take care of security.

So when the earthquake hit most of the police went to take care of their own families.

The president was no seen for many hours and finally he was interviewed in the Airport after the first units and planes arrived.

I applaud all the nations that now are getting involved with the humanitarian efforts in Haiti, many countries are sending doctors, helicopters and equipment along with personnel many are already in the gorund in Haiti.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Dan_MarineTimes #Marines to #Haiti with 8 CH-53 heavy-lift helicopters and 4 UH-1N utility helicopters. Loading of ships begins Friday. http://(link tracking not allowed)/64PkaD
half a minute ago from web



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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I am a bit disturbed that some posters took marg6043's posts out of the spirit intended. It is not about boasting about the US, nor is this a pro-America thread. The fact is that the Haiti turned to the US first BECAUSE they knew we would offer immediately anything needed, and the US has taken the lead in aiding and organizing rescue. Credit where credit is due, even if it makes some people uncomfortable.



[edit on 14-1-2010 by cjcord]

[edit on 14-1-2010 by cjcord]



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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I know it. The journalists and the politicians just need to STFU or go dig someone out. It's like they think they'll get a pullitzer if they beg for the govt. strongly enough - that worked for them during Katrina - they've got that mindset - but it's premature. I mean, yeah, folks need help - yeah - but man the ground is still shaking down there and yelling for the govt to come save someone and condemning the Haitian govt like 10 hours after it happened, to me, is a bit...ridiculous.

And yet the whole time, if you just turn the sound down, you see all those bodies LINED up in the street, covered...all those people being toted into the clinics...the Haitian police cars riding up the road making their presence known?

These people deserve a LOT of credit, IMO.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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Is not about Hail America my friend, but you can not deny or ignore that it is the US the one that had to restore order and made possible for all the help that is coming into Haiti for the rescue and aid effort security and well being.

You can not ignore that fact.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:54 AM
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leerader - 3:53 p.m.
RT @ProChoiceNY @unfpa Pregnant women in and around Port-au-Prince now w/out access to the most basic health services



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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Louisoxfam

UN's OCHA is establishing its operations centre and reception centre at the airport in Haiti.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Don't worry my friend it doesn't bother me, I laugh because while I am one of the most staunch critics of my own government and political system I can not ignore the facts, as why US presence is the one taking care of Haiti security, people have short memories but the US will always have priority on the southern command that includes the Caribbean as US have interest in the Area.

I am proud of been America but that doesn't mean I am proud of my government corruption.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by hadriana
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I know it. The journalists and the politicians just need to STFU or go dig someone out. It's like they think they'll get a pullitzer if they beg for the govt. strongly enough - that worked for them during Katrina - they've got that mindset - but it's premature. I mean, yeah, folks need help - yeah - but man the ground is still shaking down there and yelling for the govt to come save someone and condemning the Haitian govt like 10 hours after it happened, to me, is a bit...ridiculous.

And yet the whole time, if you just turn the sound down, you see all those bodies LINED up in the street, covered...all those people being toted into the clinics...the Haitian police cars riding up the road making their presence known?

These people deserve a LOT of credit, IMO.


I can only assume you have not been following all the reports and updates as closely as some others.

The Haitian government ISN'T p[resent, as there is no government left. They are dead. Literally. Except for the President and his wife. The Haitian people are screaming for help, Haitian citizens who were able to get online made it clear that no one was coming to help them. Waiting around for the non-existent Haitian government to do anything is ridiculous. It won;t happen. The journalists on scene right now are doing more than anyone so far- they are helping the aid workers organize their plans, they are finding out what is needed where-- I am having a very hard time understanding the animosity springing up in this thread.

No one has condemned the Haitian government. Because they, unlike some in this thread, are well aware there is no Haitian government any longer.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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Is not about Hail America my friend, but you can not deny or ignore that it is the US the one that had to restore order and made possible for all the help that is coming into Haiti for the rescue and aid effort security and well being.

You can not ignore that fact.



I know you weren't talking TO ME, but I would deny - from what I've seen - that it is the US that has made ALL the help possible. Other nations were already there. I don't think there's exactly order and security restored yet either.

But I'm glad for anyone that is there helping, including ALL THE HAITIANS, many of whom are obviously injured, and begrieved, and struggling to help their countrymen.

First thing I saw the US do personally is go rescue folks from the UN. Since you mention it and all...



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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I know, it wouldn;t bother me either- it's just the fact that this thread has been dedicated to getting news and updates out, in a non biased way, and I happen to know you have been working your butt off day and night trying to do just that.

I understand that ATS has members from all over the world, and some of them may have negative opinions of the US- but this is not the thread to air them. No one is attempting to make heros here, we are simply reporting fact. I can not help that people may decide to dislike the facts, it will not stop me from reporting them.

I would prefer opinion posts stay in opinion post thread, not data and news relay threads.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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They aren't ALL dead, because I've been watching the coverage and I've been seeing them!

But my point was that US journalists were severely condemning them for NOT being there, when in fact, they were victims too!

There was a problem last night with false rumors of a flood spread, and it was the Haitian police that there telling folks it was ok.

They aren't all dead, and at least some of them are working.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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oxfamgb
A six-strong team of Oxfam emergency specialists has been dispatched to #Haiti from the UK today to help our earthquake response.
3 minutes ago from web



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