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Magnitude 7.0 - HAITI REGION

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:55 AM
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Without knowing just what kind of technology the US government possesses, it's impossible to say whether HAARP is capable of the power you suggested or not. We do know, however, that a small amount of matter can release a very large amount of energy.

Unfortunately, I don't have or know how to find this data, but all we have to do is look at another quake, at a different depth, and the depth of its aftershocks, and if they're not the same, then clearly this quake was man-made.

In fact, if you've really been studied tectonics for 25 years(really, all you need is common sense, in this case), then you should easily be able to tell how peculiar the above event is.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by np6888]




posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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I am surprised to see the quick response from other countries.


Outsiders are responding. Within hours of the quake, countries in the region were preparing to deliver aid. The United States sent a hospital ship and other craft to Haiti and the Inter-American Development Bank said it would provide $200,000 in immediate emergency help. The World Bank reported its offices destroyed but said a team would be sent to the country to start planning for recovery and to minimise the impact on the economy. Mexico’s government said it would be sending a search-and-rescue team, as well as doctors specialising in wounds from building collapses. A peacekeeping force of some 9,000, led by Brazil, if it is able to function, is likely to be called on to preserve order and prevent looting. Despite generous international assistance, Haiti had struggled to recover from a series of tropical storms in 1998. This calamity is likely to prove to be far graver yet.


Haiti's horror

Peace



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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At least the building of the WFP was not leveled ...


Caroline Hurford of the World Food Programme (WFP) said the agency's building in Port-Au-Prince was still standing and all staff are accounted for. WFP is airlifting 90 metric tonnes of high energy biscuits to neighbouring Dominican Republic - enough to feed 30,000 people for a week.


BBC World News

Peace



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
At least the building of the WFP was not leveled ...


Caroline Hurford of the World Food Programme (WFP) said the agency's building in Port-Au-Prince was still standing and all staff are accounted for. WFP is airlifting 90 metric tonnes of high energy biscuits to neighbouring Dominican Republic - enough to feed 30,000 people for a week.


BBC World News

Peace


Building codes are almost non-existent, the main ground movement time of around 1 minute is enough to damage even well built structures, the poor structures and ground slope was and is a tragedy.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Aid groups rush to join Haiti rescue effort

CNN) -- Aid organizations and governments have deployed emergency response teams to Haiti and appealed for donations after the Caribbean nation was struck by a devastating earthquake described by local officials as a "catastrophe of major proportions."


edition.cnn.com...

I would like to encourage everyone to visit oxfam.org, redcross.org and crs.org (Catholic Relief Services) to do whatever you can. These are 3 reputable organizations that are on the ground in Haiti and are currently offering support.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by np6888

Unfortunately, I don't have or know how to find this data, but all we have to do is look at another quake, at a different depth, and the depth of its aftershocks, and if they're not the same, then clearly this quake was man-made.

In fact, if you've really been studied tectonics for 25 years(really, all you need is common sense, in this case), then you should easily be able to tell how peculiar the above event is.



Thankyou for your input...



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
The latest news on the devastating quake in Haiti..


Quake destroys UN's Haiti base

The headquarters of the UN peacekeeping mission in Haiti collapsed in Tuesday’s earthquake and a large number of UN personnel are missing, the UN peacekeeping chief said.

At least 11 peacekeepers were reportedly killed, eight from China and three from Jordan.

Alain Le Roy told reporters that UN troops, mostly from Brazil, were trying to rescue people from the wreckage of the five-story building, but “as we speak no one has been rescued from this main headquarters.”

“The main building that was the headquarters building has collapsed,” he said. “We know clearly it is a tragedy for Haiti, and a tragedy for the UN, and especially for the UN peacekeeping mission in Haiti.”



I heard on the local (Wash DC) station that some responders from Virginia and California are preparing to leave in support of the rescue/recovery effort..





Thankyou for an actual update!

On that note, has anyone heard any approximate death toll or any more news? all our local news programs are just saying that the death toll will be 'catastrophic' it does not sit well that they havent even gotten a start on it yet Or have, but there is no way to even make an estimate. Makes me seem like there is going to be alot more then they can count!


Mods, is there any way we can get this thread back on the actual topic and have it just so it's news & updates on it rather then losing it to conspiracy theories? This is the fragile earth Discussion forum not the General conspiracy forum, so maybe we can suggest one of the posters above to start their own thread on what they think is causing these earthquakes in that forum, and leave this thread to the actual news and proper break down of events of this particular earthquake and subsequent aftershocks?

just a suggestion.

[edit on 13/1/2010 by bkaust]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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The exact scope of the disaster remained unclear early today, and even a rough estimate of the number of casualties was impossible, though it is feared the death toll could rise into the thousands.
edinburghnews.scotsman.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:23 AM
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I think estimates are all we are going to get the next couple of days.


Red Cross spokesman Paul Conneally tells the BBC that relief efforts are being hampered by "massive damage" to the infrastructure in Haiti. "We're looking at supporting search and rescue operations and supplementing emergency health services," he says.


Infrastructure is damaged to such an extend that it will be hard to get a complete picture...

Peace



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Youtube report from Russia Today



CBS RAW video approx sundown.





[edit on 13-1-2010 by prof-rabbit]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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Troll feeding post retracted.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by vox2442]



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Don't feed it......


French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner says the head of the UN mission in Haiti is feared to have died when the UN building collapsed


BBC World News

Here are also some pictures taken yesterday and today...

BBC Pictures

Look at that palace!!!

Peace



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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BBC --

A 61-strong team of firefighters from across the UK has volunteered to go to Haiti to help with a rescue operation after it was hit by an earthquake.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Let us hope everyone pitches in, there is no word from other areas at this time.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:55 AM
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I am still working my way through this thread, but I wanted to say thanks to everyone who has posted updates and information. My sister-in-law is there in Jacmel and we are frantic to get information on her. My M-I-L has called the number for the state department and hopefully will find something out soon.

The biggest worry is that there were plans to go into PauP yesterday and we don't know if she went or not or who else in her group might have been there.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Haiti. I'm just at a complete loss right now and rather zombie-ish feeling with not knowing anything. So, a big thank you to the people here who offered info and pictures. The updates have been extremely helpful.

Take care,
Cindi



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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All i can find about Australian aid is what was repeated on our local news




The country's amassador to the United States Raymond Joseph said the earthquake was a 'catastrophe of major proportions'.

Specialist search and rescue crews could be sent from Queensland to help find survivors trapped under rubble following the earthquake in Haiti.

Treasurer Andrew Fraser said the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service was on stand-by and would send crews if there was a request made for help through the Federal Government.

The search and rescue specialists were sent to Samoa following the tsunami in October and also helped find survivors and victims in earthquake-ravaged Sumatra.

"We are ready, willing and able to assist,'' Mr Fraser said this morning.


Source Here

Let's hope they get lots of aid quickly enough to save as many people from out underneath the rubble in time! Like someone mentioned a few pages back, at least the weather is looking favourable for them to have the best shot at getting in there without a problem, the very last thing they would need is rain causing mud and landslides!



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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Oh i'm so sorry. I can't imagine the worry you are feeling, I'll keep your family in my thoughts and prayers & hope very much for a safe outcome for you all, and that you can find them as soon as possible!

Take care of yourself.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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We've been watching the tv coverage here, plus YouTube clips

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet in this thread, although others are bound to notice it soon, but

... same clips, repeated over and over again of the broken palace and collapsed buildings. Which is what you'd expect of a 7 plus quake

But it's the behaviour of the Haitians which has intrigued us and those we know

For example, young people in school uniform spreading out their arms in the universal 'overcome and helpless' gesture

... except these people were laughing and grinning before turning their heads from the cameras and doubling over in laughter or laughing at their friends who in turn, stretched out their arms in 'despair', threw back their heads in grief ............. and then also doubled up laughing, turning their heads from the camera as they did so

Then there was the film of several Haitians 'dragging a man from the rubble' according the voice-over. After putting him on the ground, the 'helpers' stood way back in order the camera could close in on the 'injured man' (all we could see was dust on him). Then, direct to camera, he showed as much 'grief and despair' as humanly possible to display, while calling out repeatedly, 'Help me, help me'. All during this, those who'd supposedly 'dragged him from the rubble' made no attempt to give him any assistance and very obviously were standing back in order the camera could record the man crying 'Help me '

We also saw many Haitians in the foreground and background, holding their arms straight out from the sides and throwing back their heads in an obvious portrayal of 'the world has fallen down ' .... only to be copied seconds later by several others in the near vicinity who did the same thing with grins on their faces before turning away from the camera

A group of uniformed schoolchildren were standing in front of ruined buildings. One of them, a teenage girl, began pulling at her hair and was obviously pretending to be overcome with grief and emotion, before she began laughing self-consciously at others nearby, thereby giving the game away that it was all a performance

Very strange



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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I thought on one clip i saw a smile, but all i can say is kids are extremley resilient, they can block things out that we can't ever imagine forgetting. I'm sure when they have a moment's peace away from their school friends it will really hit home. To some, that are fortunate enough to have not lost anyone, they might find it a bit 'exciting' (I hate to say it like that) but the younger you are, the more invincible you tend to think you are.

As to the men surrounding the injured man, i saw this too, and all i could think was maybe this was their way of trying to get the world to help, as a country they are struggling very much, and from what i have heard they usually haggle and sell what they can and beg as a means of survival, maybe this is the only way they know? Maybe they figured if they can get a shot of this poor man on camera, the world might really know how much they need the help?

Please realise these are just my ideas, i don't pretend to know what could possibly be going through the minds of these people right now.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 07:07 AM
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Fell asleep watching this horror, and I just knew what I would see this morning.

The Haitian Ambassador was on CNN last night, and his words literally brought me to tears. Stories of the mountains crumbling, bringing down entire shanty communities, with every aftershock adding to the damage. I believe the last report I saw stated there had been 32 shocks.

No building codes, houses made of sheet metal and concrete without reinforcement...These people had NO chance. Walls were falling onto the people in the streets who had fled their houses--

If I were single, I would be contacting everyone I could to see if I could help on the ground, as it is, I made some donations (which we know is hard for everyone to do right now), and hugged my children closer and reminded my family how lucky we are just for today.

We complain about a lot here in America. And yes, we have compassion for other less fortunate countries- but when devastation like this happens, with No warning, and NO preventative measures taken, I cannot help but be thankful that I live here, and try to help as much as I can. I am feeling helpless today, how could any of us be unmoved by the epic loss of life and livelihood that has happened here?


I agree with others who have pointed out that with the chaos there now, any actual figure for damage and death will be quite a few days in coming, if not weeks. Those injured may not recover. It will be a long time before most of these buildings will be cleared, with who knows how many victims inside.

With the state of most of these structures, i could easily see the numbers reaching in the hundreds of thousands, but I hope more than ever that I am wrong.


I understand the psychology of wanting to make sense of this disaster. I understand that we at ATS have the tendency to imagine all sorts of reasons-- but right now, a bit over 12 hours since this has happened, with the dust not even beginning to settle---I feel we should keep this particular thread on specific target. We can speculate any time, but right now, many of us want real news and confirmation, and directions to help if we can.

I am a journalist, and am trying to collect the data I can, and as I get new info, I will do my best to post it here. Today will be a busy day for many.

For all of us safe in our homes and able to post here, I urge you to reflect on that, and be grateful for what we have. Please don't take your life for granted.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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Hi everyone, it's me again from the Dominican Republic. My grandfather who lives in San Juan de la Maguana (roughly halfway from our capital to Haiti's capital) has informed us that some of the roads have cracked in several towns around the area and there is some damage as close as 100 miles to where I am located. He says this will further delay vehicles coming from and to our side but they are already repairing and will soon get it under control. Our local news has shown several videos and pictures that are too graphic by anyone's standards. Deceased children are being thrown into the back of pick-up trucks by the survivors and everyone seems to be seriously wounded. There are also rumors of looting and violence in the surrounding, less affected areas of the city.

However, there seems to be a lot of positive response and rescue groups are being mobilized from the DomRep. Many regular citizens are sending food and meds and some are even taking action and joining squads to go over there and move debris out of the way to hopefully save a couple of people.

I'll let you know as soon as I have a casualty number but I am afraid it will be larger than we expected.



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