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I was raped twice in Iraq – US veteran speaks out

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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So If I joined a barbaric testosterone driven death machine then i am one myself. idk who you think you are but you and your threads on these things are absurd. I have spent almost three years in the service now and i go to school, i work hard, i have a loving fiance who has stood by me through everything, i have friends that cry and love and and know fear the same as you do. there are assholes in the military but, in my experience the only two ive known to have ever tried to assault a women have been beaten to a pulp by their comrades. soldiers don't just run around raping women. Some try but believe me more people would hurt those men very badly than would actually commit the crime. don't speak of things you know nothing about.




posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 08:20 AM
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And before i forget. More women have been raped in America twice than have been in the military. Men too. Don't try to tear down the military for something every single military has issues with, something that is an issue in every high school, college, workplace, bar, even in peoples own houses and backyards. the world is a sick place. not just the Military. It is a sick place, but its the same as everywhere else. another thing before i stop i don't know if you've forgotten but the human race is a barbaric testosterone driven death machine, that's why we are where we are today. we didn't get here to this country or technology level by throwing flowers for thousands of years.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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good read .

good to find that the truth about US army is coming out

US army should be renamed URS army .URS will be for united rapist army . after all thats the best what USA does lol.

USA has maximum number of rapes in the world



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 11:06 AM
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The US has the most rapes? Are you serious?
Care to provide statistics, facts, numbers, proof, anything?
Please back that statement up, or remove your post.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
I'm a veteran, and when my niece came of age and wanted to join the military, I told her the unvarnished truth - that there would be a very high probability she would be raped while in the service.

The military does very little to police it's own, and it creates an atmosphere of sexual hostility towards females. It's a male fraternity, and any females trying to be a part of it should be forewarned.


The fact that this Vet has to have this Convo with his niece is all

that needs to be said.

Would you want your daughter to join?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Barak89
reply to post by rainfall
 


So If I joined a barbaric testosterone driven death machine then i am one myself. idk who you think you are but you and your threads on these things are absurd. don't speak of things you know nothing about.


The reason I post these kinds of threads is just to help wake up the pro-military group.......

The U.S. government is a bigger threat to the American people than any counrty in the world...



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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The reason I post these kinds of threads is just to help wake up the pro-military group.......

The U.S. government is a bigger threat to the American people than any counrty in the world...


Self confessed propaganda.

You care nothing about he rape of women in the military, merely your agenda :shk:

BTW, google is my friend article you gave me did not mention anything about one in three women in the military is raped.

Is this really the study backing up your source or did you just give me the first thing you found?



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by sadchild01
 

The US has the most rapes? Are you serious?
Care to provide statistics, facts, numbers, proof, anything?
Please back that statement up, or remove your post.


like i said USA has the max no. rapes in world yep. check it out 95,136 rapes .

www.nationmaster.com...
this source is official ,now lets consider unofficial ,

* In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes each month and 683,280 rapes each year.
* 1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime.
* The United States has the world's highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It's 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan.
* 1 in 7 women will be raped by her husband.
* 83% of rape cases are ages 24 or under.
* 1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
* 1 in 12 males students surveyed had commited acts that met the legal definition of rape. Furthermore, 84% of the men who had commited such acts said what they had done was definitely not rape.
* 75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in acquintance rape had been drinking or using drugs.
* Only 16% of rapes are ever reported to the police.
oak.cats.ohiou.edu...


In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes each month and 683,280 rapes each year.

USA should be renamed USR(united states of rape), no wonders most russian bloggers call USA empire of rape/rape empire


next time get your facts straight

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

My, my... You're really showing your colors today aren't you? In my time on ATS, I've seen some reprehensible posting. But this one is Disgustingly transparent. Say anything to promote your agenda...no matter how reprehensible...

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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I applaud you for the stats.

But do the stats tell the whole story?

How many rapes go unreported or ignored especially in countries that have weak law enforcement concerning rape, or rampant corruption, or war, or where women are seen as objects rather than humans?

IMO, rape is a serious issue in every country regardless of what the current stats illustrate.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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Some posters saying not to label all soldiers as rapists because of the actions of a few are the same people that label all priests as child rapists because of the actions of a few



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by rainfall
 


My, my... You're really showing your colors today aren't you? In my time on ATS, I've seen some reprehensible posting. But this one is Disgustingly transparent. Say anything to promote your agenda...no matter how reprehensible...


Sorry that you don't like my reprehensible, disgustingly transparent anti-war agenda.....



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by sadchild01
 


I applaud you for the stats.

But do the stats tell the whole story?

How many rapes go unreported or ignored especially in countries that have weak law enforcement concerning rape, or rampant corruption, or war, or where women are seen as objects rather than humans?

IMO, rape is a serious issue in every country regardless of what the current stats illustrate.


well its a load more than the UK mate!I am amazed at those stats,dont realy hear of rapes in our army too

whats up with a lot of american men?

I know you wont say say it but you hinted at it,do muslims rape more than america does?It seems that in america there seen as sex objects too

disgusting



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to post by rainfall
 


Got it in one.

You dislike America? Fine, have at it. You'll find yourself in good company. You dislike the war in Iraq, and Afghanistan? Fine. You'll see we're in agreement there, for the most part.

What I find reprehensible is your use of a traumatic incident such as the rape of anyone to promote an agenda.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:10 PM
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Interesting this seems to show something different, remember figures lie and liars figure. Not calling you a liar at all, so don't assume I was. But, I bet I can find a statistic to back just about anything if I look long enough. According to this.

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
# 2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
# 3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
# 4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
# 5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
# 6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
# 7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
# 8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
# 11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people
# 12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people
# 13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people
# 14 Spain: 0.140403 per 1,000 people
# 15 France: 0.139442 per 1,000 people
# 16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people
# 17 Mexico: 0.122981 per 1,000 people
# 18 Norway: 0.120836 per 1,000 people
# 19 Costa Rica: 0.118277 per 1,000 people
# 20 Venezuela: 0.115507 per 1,000 people
# 21 Finland: 0.110856 per 1,000 people
# 22 Netherlands: 0.100445 per 1,000 people
# 23 Denmark: 0.0914948 per 1,000 people
# 24 Germany: 0.0909731 per 1,000 people
# 25 Bulgaria: 0.0795973 per 1,000 people
# 26 Chile: 0.0782179 per 1,000 people
# 27 Thailand: 0.0626305 per 1,000 people
# 28 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0623785 per 1,000 people
# 29 Poland: 0.062218 per 1,000 people
# 30 Sri Lanka: 0.0599053 per 1,000 people
# 31 Hungary: 0.0588588 per 1,000 people
# 32 Estonia: 0.0547637 per 1,000 people
# 33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people
# 34 Switzerland: 0.0539458 per 1,000 people
# 35 Belarus: 0.0514563 per 1,000 people
# 36 Uruguay: 0.0512295 per 1,000 people
# 37 Lithuania: 0.0508757 per 1,000 people
# 38 Malaysia: 0.0505156 per 1,000 people
# 39 Romania: 0.0497089 per 1,000 people
# 40 Czech Republic: 0.0488234 per 1,000 people
# 41 Russia: 0.0486543 per 1,000 people
# 42 Latvia: 0.0454148 per 1,000 people
# 43 Moldova: 0.0448934 per 1,000 people
# 44 Colombia: 0.0433254 per 1,000 people
# 45 Slovenia: 0.0427648 per 1,000 people
# 46 Italy: 0.0402045 per 1,000 people
# 47 Portugal: 0.0364376 per 1,000 people
# 48 Tunisia: 0.0331514 per 1,000 people
# 49 Zambia: 0.0266383 per 1,000 people
# 50 Ukraine: 0.0244909 per 1,000 people
# 51 Slovakia: 0.0237525 per 1,000 people
# 52 Mauritius: 0.0219334 per 1,000 people
# 53 Turkey: 0.0180876 per 1,000 people
# 54 Japan: 0.017737 per 1,000 people
# 55 Hong Kong: 0.0150746 per 1,000 people
# 56 India: 0.0143187 per 1,000 people
# 57 Qatar: 0.0139042 per 1,000 people
# 58 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0132029 per 1,000 people
# 59 Greece: 0.0106862 per 1,000 people
# 60 Georgia: 0.0100492 per 1,000 people
# 61 Armenia: 0.00938652 per 1,000 people
# 62 Indonesia: 0.00567003 per 1,000 people
# 63 Yemen: 0.0038597 per 1,000 people
# 64 Azerbaijan: 0.00379171 per 1,000 people
# 65 Saudi Arabia: 0.00329321 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

So here South Africa comes in number 1, which is more accurate?


www.nationmaster.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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well well well , seems you are refering to per capita basis huh ?

but still it doesn't change the fact that USA has the max number of rapes in the world , like it or not




The US has the most rapes? Are you serious? Care to provide statistics, facts, numbers, proof, anything? Please back that statement up, or remove your post.


stop dancing around and ADMIT IT . USA has the maximum number of rapes in the world



Interesting this seems to show something different, remember figures lie and liars figure. Not calling you a liar at all, so don't assume I was.

as for stats lying , remember these are from american govt and various other govt and then stated by UN affiliated bodies ,

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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How many of the countries listed have smaller populations and a larger percentage of rapes? You can twist this however you want but biased opinions are still just opinions.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to post by sadchild01
 


How many countries don't report? Or underreport? Stats are worth only what you think they're worth. As long as they support your agenda, they're worthwhile, if they don't, they get ignored.

Any number of rapes is too many. No one disagrees with that. But to use it as a tool to drive an agenda is reprehensible...

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Click on the link........same site. Same groups, governments, etc.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by sadchild01
 


How many of the countries listed have smaller populations and a larger percentage of rapes? You can twist this however you want but biased opinions are still just opinions.


yawn , so you refuse to acknowledge the facts , fact is fact ,USA has maximum rapes in the world , and those nations have SMALLER LAW ENFORCEMENT BUDGET,BUT USA THE LARGEST LAW ENFORCEMENT BUDGET, but still it has maximum number of rapes in the world .




You can twist this however you want but biased opinions are still just opinions.


except that my opinion is backed by evidence , that USA has maximum rapes,
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do you condone rapists ? ,
your apologetic attitude for rapists is pathetic , you clearly refuse to admit facts and figures


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