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Madeleine McCann 'Died In Holiday Apartment'

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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:06 PM
Some more insightful info - The money......

Exposing the fraudulent Madeleine Fund

111,522 on legal fee's lol.......

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posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:40 PM
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

Thank you for the appreciation, and thank you for reading the thread.

Yes this case did go to sleep for a while, but only in the Media Spotlight. They only tell us what the McCann's want us to hear anyway, it's fantastic that people all over the internet have posted their findings. Not only on this site, but many others.

With enough people we have a voice, mine may only be a small part of it but it counts, and so does yours. We have a great tool for sharing information around the world, and I think it's this tool that will bring whoever is responsible down.

posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 05:43 PM
reply to post by slinkey10

Brilliant find, here is the YouTube video from the link.

posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 10:15 PM
reply to post by IamNow

Yes that really jogs my memory on Gerry Mcann.Swearing in front of young kids and seen laughing off camera when his daughter is "missing".

There was one clip I saw where he and Kate were being interviewed and an evil smirk came over his face.They were always more concerned about going for their daily run on the beach.
From first sight I always got the feeling something was very off about them.Him especially.

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posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 03:55 AM
I'd always assumed Madeleine really was abducted.
However after reading everything I can find, I've come to the conclusion the 4 men of the "Tapas 9" were paedophiles who organised this holiday in order to abuse each others' children.

Early on the evening Maddie (disappeared,) one of the men was too rough and killed her. The rest of the evening was spent covering up what had happened.

The women possibly didn't know what was happening.

Some good reference sites:

And a picture of Maddie, looking sad, frightened, and trying to protect herself:

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 04:10 AM
It is just crazy. I would want to hang them for just leaving their kids alone in an unlocked room, but when you add that child care would be cheap there and easily provided by the hotel it just means they do not love their kids.

We should all realize there are people in the world who view their children as nothing more than inconveniences. My children are the world to me, and I plan my life around them…. These people are more about themselves and care little for their children.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 04:10 AM
X2 post...

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posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 05:32 AM
I am wondering why there has been no interaction with some of the acclaimed mediums/psychics in the UK. I know that a good number offered their help at the start of the investigations (most of which, had helped the British police on cold cases in the past). Surely when all else fails, then why not try something outside of the box.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Kailassa
I've come to the conclusion the 4 men of the "Tapas 9" were paedophiles

I find it odd that no one else has suggested that this may be the case. I myself don't think this is right but it certainly is a possibility.

I wonder what level of investigation the other people went through that were at the tapas bar with the mccans?

Tapas 9.. who came up with that one?? Sounds so sinister don't you think?

All the best,


posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Kailassa
And a picture of Maddie, looking sad, frightened, and trying to protect herself:
That was something I always thought about.

The first photos shown did not match the description of a happy child, it was almost as if they had problems finding photos in which she looked happy.

Also, the lack of photos is a little worrying, any couple I know has many photos of all their children, why do we keep on seeing always the same photos?

I think that helps the point of view that Madeleine was probably not loved (or at least cared) by her parents as other children are (and should be), and that she was a little abandoned inside her family.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:52 AM
reply to post by Muckster

I agree 100% Muckster.

There is NO way i would ever leave my kids alone.

As has been said, of COURSE leaving your children in an unlocked holiday apartment, in an unfamiliar area, surrounded by unfamiliar locals and holiday makers is NOT in any way, the same thing as leaving your children in their bedrooms while you sit out in the back garden or something.

Are these people for real?

Garden access is locked or simply not available unless accessed by going right through the whole house..not the same as a ground floor holiday flat.

You know your neighbours where you live...not the same as having thousands of complete strangers wandering around.

Isn't the father supposed to be a schoolteacher? With sense like these two have, it's no wonder our kids can't read or write properly!

All said and done, the poor kid is probably dead..didn't even really get to know what life was before it was over for her.

If she was snatched, the parents, even though they were grossly negligent and ridiculously stupid for leaving their kids..have they been punished enough? Losing one of my kids like they have would be far worse than serious prison time IMO.

It's bad all round..just hope for an outside chance that someone has her locked away somewhere...better than being dead i s'pose, but it must be constant torture not knowing what is happening to her..blimey, it's tough.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 06:59 AM
reply to post by The_Archangel

Mate...if i were in their shoes, i'd be trying EVERYTHING.

Psychics, white magic, black magic, bribery, blackmail, praying, private detectives, everything.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:21 AM
This isn't the first case where parents wanted to go "party" and had the obligation of a child that hampered their fun. Casey Anthony drugged her child and put her in the trunk of her car so she could go be with her boyfriend and go nightclubbing.

First human reaction to cover up a crime is to blame an intruder.
Second human reaction when that is proven wrong is to blame the police.
The McCanns followed the typical pattern exactly.

Crimes of abduction to use children as sex slaves are usually older girls. Elizabeth Smart was a few years older than her sister and was chosen, that girl who was kept in the backyard bunker was a little older too. Predators have a certain target they look for, not the age of the little McCann girl.

Human traficking children are usually sold, not kidnapped with different circumstances also. So the McCanns are fos. They overdosed their baby and then used money that was given in good will for bad purposes. Criminals.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:32 AM
From day two of the current libel trial:

1:53: De Almeida: British authorities other than police hindered investigation by withholding information.

1:54: De Almeida: when we asked UK for info on McCanns we got a single side of A4
2:05: The McCanns’ lawyer is getting quite worked up in her cross examination of de Almeida.

2:09: The McCanns’ lawyer is rebuked for saying de Almeida was accused of torturing suspects – he was never charged.

2:10: The court is adjourning for lunch. Back at 3pm.

Who were the "British authorities other than police" who hindered the investigation?
This goes deep,someone very important is protecting the Mcanns from being implicated in the dissapearance of Maddie IMO.
Question is why-
Could Gerry have some inside info that the government would do anything to keep secret?
Maybe something connected to his work for COMARE (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment)?
What if he had some documents in a safe somewhere,that he would threaten to release if anything happened to him or Kate?
A long shot I know,but theres some reason that the British establishment are "hindering the investigation,IMO.
Or worse,what if they were part of a child abuse ring that went to the very core of the British elite?
More speculation,but stranger things have happened.

The "truth of the lie" film is very damning,and having watched it I am now convinced that the "abduction" scenario presented by the Mcanns is very unlikley to be the truth.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:40 AM
The British authorities were probably those that helped the McCanns get out of the country as they were to be detained until the case was solved.

People with money and connections get special favors.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Tapas 9.. who came up with that one?? Sounds so sinister don't you think?

the phrase ` the tapas 9 ` was probally coined by a lazy journo looking for a catchy tagline

the orogin is deceptibly simple . and at the risk of stating the blindingly obvious

9 people + one tapas bar = ?????????????????????????

its the same level of inntuectual laziness that brands every politional scandal as ` ********-gate `

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:58 AM
Wow to be fair, i'd never really investigated the case before, kept well away. But from all this the parents look at least guily of negligant manslaughter and the subsequent cover-up.

#ed up.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 07:58 AM

Originally posted by Korg Trinity

Originally posted by Kailassa
I've come to the conclusion the 4 men of the "Tapas 9" were pedophiles

I find it odd that no one else has suggested that this may be the case. I myself don't think this is right but it certainly is a possibility.

I wonder what level of investigation the other people went through that were at the tapas bar with the mccans?

Tapas 9.. who came up with that one?? Sounds so sinister don't you think?

All the best,


I don't think they were pedophiles.... imo using the member DrHammondStoat's model on page4:

1. Kate and Gerry keep up their pretence of innocence until they die.

2. New evidence comes to light that they are guilty

3. Kate Mccann cracks under the strain of trying to live with what she's done and gives the game away.

I would suggest no3 however, If KM was aware that there were pedophiles in the group and MM died at the hand of a pedophile, IMO this would be2 much for her to hide/carry emotionally? I think we would have seen her crack already if this was the case......

Or....KM is a subordinate emotional simpleton, and as other members have suggested GM is a control freak; he is carrying the emotional guilt for both of them, and controlling what KM does/thinks, to keep the emotional lid on?..... (Disclaimer only speculation and my opinion)

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 08:03 AM
reply to post by Kailassa

Not sure if they are paedophiles, I really have not looked at it this way before. I have heard about the couple's being "Swingers" maybe the children just got in the way.

To me though it seems this holiday was planned, and Maddie being abducted/killed is part of that plan. Gerry clearly stated in the video after saying F-Off

"I'm not here to enjoy myself"

Look how disconnected he looks form everyone else on the trip.

I have been doing some research on what I believe to be a huge clue in the case, that clue is the defect in Maddies eye. that defect is called Coloboma

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A coloboma (also part of the rare Cat eye syndrome) is a hole in one of the structures of the eye, such as the eyelid, iris, retina, choroid or optic disc. The hole is present from birth and can be caused when a gap called the choroid fissure between two structures in the eye, which is present early in development in the uterus, fails to close up completely before a child is born. The classical description in medical literature is of a key-hole shaped defect. A coloboma can occur in one or both eyes.

Some children with coloboma of the eye also have malformations in other parts of the body. There is a rare condition called CHARGE syndrome, in which coloboma is associated with cleft lip and/or palate, ear abnormalities and hearing impairment, choanal atresia, delays in growth and development, central nervous system anomalies and congenital heart defects.


More on Charge Syndrome.......

Diagnosis of CHARGE syndrome is often missed, due to the rarity of the condition. However, this syndrome spans many disciplines, and as such, can be diagnosed by the pediatrician, the ENT specialist, the ophthalmologist, the cardiologist, the urologist, the developmental specialist, or the geneticist.source

cardiologist happens to be Gerry's line of work, maybe he knew enough about Maddies condition to know Maddie was going to be a difficult child to raise, not the child he had been waiting for. Boy was there a lot of waiting for Maddie their first child "Things must of got a little frustrating"

The mother of missing Madeleine McCann has tearfully described the joy she experienced at her IVF birth after five years of trying unsuccessfully for a babySource

After trying for over 5 years Maddie finally came, there first child. They must of been over the moon, however I don't think that happiness lasted. Once they discovered Maddie had Coloboma Gerry knew what this meant.

* C - Coloboma of the eye, central nervous system anomalies
* H - Heart defects
* A - Atresia of the choanae
* R - Retardation of growth and/or development
* G - Genital and/or urinary defects (Hypogonadism)
* E - Ear anomalies and/or deafness

This was not the child Gerry & Kate had been waiting for, all the hurt they went through just to have a normal family. I think that normal family almost came when they had the twins, however there was still a hurdle and that hurdle was Maddie. They had the twins now, the perfect family Gerry maybe though he was doing the right thing anyway. This was his line of work and I believe he convinced Kate this really was the best choice. I also believe Child Sacrifice was right up Gerry's street, fits in well with the ties to the Freemasons.

I believe Madeleine was overdosed the night before, There is allready evidence showing the Photo of Madeleine from the morning of her disappearance is fake.

Link to Photo

Look at the Shadow on Gerry's T-Shirt and the other child... Now look at Maddie.

I believe Maddie died due to Cardiac Arrest/Seizure the night before her disappearance. The night the Tapas 9 were drinking was a farewell drink for Maddie, I believe all knew about Maddies death and accepted it, Kate and Gerry had already been through so much, this was a chance at a perfect family. I believe Maddie was placed behind the sofa, and the window left open while they took it in turns at hiding the evidence.

The visits to the apartment to check on Maddie were to make sure there was no trace of what they had done. Once they all felt happy that everything was clean, the alarm was raised.

posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 08:24 AM
reply to post by Korg Trinity

Yea almost like the 9 Templars

Stephen King couldn't make this stuff up, the twist and turns in this case are phenomenal.

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