Originally posted by GoodOlDave
So what are you saying, that Bush personally went into the WTC and planted those bombs?
Wait, who the Hell said anything, about Bush and bombs?
I know I sure did not.
I'm not even sure Bush knows where the New York is, let alone how to make a bomb.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
That Rumsfeld personally went out onto the Pentagon Lawn and planted all those little bits of wreckage?
No one ever said anything along those lines.
Nice try at deflection through mis-stating and or putting words in my mouth.
Keep trying, someday you might actually quote some more than those few sentences.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
That the NY fire chief personally went into WTC7 and sabotaged it?
Again, where have I stated ever, that Tower 7 was sabotaged?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
That the Canadian guy in charge of NORAD on 9/11 (forgot his name) personally told the fighter pilots to fly in circles out over the ocean?
No, Dick Cheney did that, after the procedures were re-written, six month prior to 9/11, the usual procedure of jets being scrambled, immediately, was
changed by Rumsfeld.
Cheney was in the bunker under the White House, called the
White House Situation
Room.
Quote from : Wikipedia : White House Situation Room
The White House Situation Room is a 5,000-square-foot conference room and intelligence management center in the basement of the West Wing of the White
House.
It is run by the National Security Council staff for the use of the President of the United States and his advisers (including Homeland Security and
the White House Chief of Staff) to monitor and deal with crises at home and abroad and to conduct secure communications with outside (often overseas)
persons.
The Situation Room is equipped with secure, advanced communications equipment for the President to maintain command and control of U.S. forces around
the world.
White House The Situation Room
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Why would Silverstein and that BBC reporter who prereported the collapse of WTC7 give a flip about protecting Enron, anyway?
Who knows, really, what the financial predators on Capitol Hill do?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Unless you're claiming that Obama personally operated a bulldozer and dug up that fake crash site in Shanksville, you're going to have to concede
that they all needed an infrastructure of support personnel.
Where has anyone on this thread, myself included, ever stated anything about Obama in connection to 9/11 of Shanksville?
I never stated the site at Shanksville was faked?
I did state however that there was an empty field hit, as in no buildings there.
You know, Shanksville field, hit, prior to a building being hit by that plane.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
You're not talking two or three people, you're talking about thousands and thousands of people.
No, actually maybe only a few hundred people, behind the scenes, needed to know anything in regards to the policies, procedures, and protocols of how
those within the entire structure of Government were trained to react.
In other words, a verbally communicated agreement, no papertrail.
Less than fifty really needed to know certain information.
Even then, everything was compartmentalized, but Dick Cheney would know the policies, procedures, and protocols of how the entire Defense Department,
and the place where he worked as Chief of Staff, the White House were trained to react.
The rest of the knowledge was tied to Congress, and what type of influence it would take to rattle the money tree, to get Congressional funding for
war.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
The intelligence agencies of NATO who corroborated the intelligence we gave them to invoke article 5 would be a couple hundred right there.
N.A.T.O. has been a joke for
decades.
Cheney is so corrupt he knows how to end-run around N.A.T.O. any day of the week.
You know what the
Project for the New American Century was, correct?
That's a policy think-tank, which has the organizational knowledge, through its membership, to advise on how to make mince-meat out of organizations
like N.A.T.O. and the United Nations.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Project for the New American Century
The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was an American think tank based in Washington, D.C. that lasted from early 1997 to 2006.
It was co-founded as a non-profit educational organization by conservatives William Kristol and Robert Kagan.
The PNAC's stated goal was "to promote American global leadership."
Fundamental to the PNAC were the view that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world" and support for "a Reaganite
policy of military strength and moral clarity."
The PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush
Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.
The list of who was involved in that policy think-tank is literally a who's who of the people who would stand to profit from 9/11 and the Iraq War,
and Afghanistan.
The only name I am highly surprised to not see, is Blackwater/Xe's Erik Prince.
Which could mean a few things, actually, he was not involved, he was only consulted via telephone, or they never documented his presence as a
functionary.
I am of course making an educated guess, and usually I'm dead on.
Cheney, former Vice-President Quayle, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, "Scooter" Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, Steve Forbes, Paul Wolfowitz are just a
few of the power men of Washington D.C. on the list from P.N.A.C.
I understand policy, procedure, protocol, speak, hear, and can write legalese, have written my own policy for several corporations I am currently
working towards pulling together as a non-profit, a think-tank, and which will become an international conglomerate, so I could easily break down the
entirety of every single detail of P.N.A.C.'s
" Statement of Principles" into plain English for anyone to easily understand.
Basically, it says how can they make more money flow out of a future event.
I am minutely paraphrasing, of course, and as well quickly running out of characters in which to post all of what I've said so far in this post back
to you.
Would you like me to lay out their entire
" Statement of Principles" like a lover laying out an easily solved enigma?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Yeah, it's one thing to be coming up with these play-pretend theories, but it's another thing entirely to try to bring them into the real world and
make them work.
Play pretend, really?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
For one thing, those demolition specialists would have to be thoroughly as stupid as a bag of hammers to not understand that their sneaking in and
planting controlled demolitions in an occupied building is going to get a hell of a lot of people killed, regardless of whether they knew it was part
of a false flag operation or not.
You keep mentioning explosives, and I have yet to have mentioned them, except in answer to this post, so far.
You have done nothing but side-step,
everything my entire thread is about.
Mis-direction, mis-information, dis-information, what exactly are you putting out in your post here because I have not stated anything in regards to
any of the things you're even asking about, so either you've clumped together every single of the other 9/11 threads on ATS, or you have not even
bothered to read anything I've written so far.
So, which is it, please?
Because I'm not defending myself against commentary which I've never even stated within this thread because that would be ignorant of me to try to
do, since it I never said anyhting of the sort to begin with.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Interesting. Did you actually read the 9/11 commission report then?
[edit on 12-1-2010 by GoodOlDave]
Yes, and I love
fiction, it is something that makes me smile.
Come one now, try asking me questions about the things I'm actually speaking about, or otherwise you're wasting both of our times on this thread.
A five-sided building got hit, four planes were hi-jacked, three actually hit strategic targets, two towers (skyscrapers) fell, and one empty field
was slammed into.
The notorious flight that was allegedly on the way to the White House.
I say allegedly, not because I do not believe it never happened, but because the official guesstimate was that their
best expert opinion
was that it was the most likely target.
In other words, they thought it was headed there, not that it actually was going there.
Educated guessing, while accurate the majority of the time, cannot always be proven.
And as well those can be formulated easily as politically motivated sound-bytes.
You know, crank up the drama of the moment, to get sympathy.
The
Hegelian Dialectic teaches that, quite easily, thesis, antithes,
synthesis.
Or, immediate, mediated, concrete.
What about abstract, negative, concrete?
"Terror" is not even defined as the same exact thing between every single country of the world, which means easily that
confusion can not only happen within all of the different countries reacting to
"terrorism" events, but that those people who know that, like
Cheney, Blair, or even Ahmadinejad can quite easily utilize that to cause further chaos, confusion, and cultural difficulties between all of the
citizens of the different nations they are governing over.
In other words, they are all speaking different languages, different meanings throughout those languages, and the content, context, and intent of
those actions and the definitions of those actions through gathered intelligence information prior to the event, as the events are happening, and or
after they have happened.
[edit on 13-1-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]
Alright‚gettin into north woods I have always believed that it was never taken off the table . What happened
that day was the cabal that has been running things used it.Bush was and is a puppet he had no clue about anything .The guys from PANC ran the show at
the WH but Dick Cheny saw the big picture and made sure everything went according to plan. 