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Ron Jeremy says violent video games 'worse' than porn

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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I would think that we can all agree that both violent video games and pornography can have ill effects on people of any age, depending on the persons maturity, age, mentality, personality, etc. It is up to the parents to make sure their children aren't viewing material that will or can be harmful to their little minds. That being said, I think that pornography is probably the worse of the two. I don't think that women should ever be portrayed in this way, and I think it contributes to the negative sexual image of our daughters, sisters, wives, etc. Lovemaking, whether it be heterosexual, homesexual, or whatever, belongs in the bedroom and is no ones business but yours and your partners. If your into watching other people have intercourse, that is fine for you, but I don't think it is beneficial to anyone in the long run. Some things are just no good for the mind/heart/soul.




posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Kids will find porn on their own eventually.
Video games are advertised everywhere, violent or not.
You don't see Backdoor sluts 9 being advertised on cable tv



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by Muckster
Whatever people’s views, the facts are this...One of the biggest eye openers for me in life was my first trip to Amsterdam for a stag party in the 90's... Myself and my friends were all in our early 20's and yes we visited the "red light district"

Most of the women along the canals seemed to be up for it but we couldn’t help noticing the sad look in some of their faces... When we moved away from the main strip (along the canal) and down a side street there was more women in windows... this time more woman of African and Asian origin... and looking a lot more bleak... almost detached... then we see a sight i will never forget... A young Asian woman sitting on a stall, in one of the windows, just blankly looking out and crying!!! She made no attempt to hide her tears and was just looking through us into nothing... myself and my friends moved off and ended up in one of the local bars... but the rest of that night was very subdued and i know that it affected us all!


However, it was not this that shocked me most... what shocked me most was the hoards of young men running around like kids in a candy shop... Laughing, smiling, making gestures at the girls in the windows... The whole human tragedy that was right in front of their eyes was completely blinded by their selfish lust and arrogance.

Very very sad indeed... much like the porn industry!



Got to agree, Ive been on a few stag trips, and Im no angel, but anyone who sees the whole industry "up close", realises what squalid example it is in man's ability to dehumanise and exploit



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Knoen
You don't see Backdoor sluts 9 being advertised on cable tv


Whilst that is true now, you must agree that advertising and television in general is getting more "risqué" with each month that passes.

Give it a decade and I reckon that "soft-core" porn will be advertised freely.

Even classification levels are a load of tripe. What would have been an 18 in the 70's is now deemed to be a 12.

I am shocked when I see some movies that are classified as a 12 and have all sorts of stuff a 12 year old should not see or hear thrown into the mix.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 06:45 AM
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I don't think anyone could refute your assessment, the "boundaries" keep getting pushed slowly but surely (sometimes quickly)



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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The best part is that gamers are shouting back that he is wrong. Get it? The GAMERS are the ones insisting that they are not being affected.

Anyone ever heard this before?

"What? I'm not drunk!"

The affected can often be the last to know.



posted on Jan, 16 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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before you come down on red light districts,in some areas this is the ONLY way for a female to earn money.

if you don't like this why aren't you there giving her other employment opportunities?

the ugly flaw in the femi-nazi movement is that it is the women's RIGHT to rent out her own body for whatever reason she wants to.(porno or surrogate mom or prostitute or wife)

it is the parents duty to guide their childs development,it is not government or society's business.

the world is not meant for children,it is meant for adults.that's why we grow up.

so grow up already!



posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by the_grand_pooh-bah
before you come down on red light districts,in some areas this is the ONLY way for a female to earn money.

if you don't like this why aren't you there giving her other employment opportunities?

the ugly flaw in the femi-nazi movement is that it is the women's RIGHT to rent out her own body for whatever reason she wants to.(porno or surrogate mom or prostitute or wife)

it is the parents duty to guide their childs development,it is not government or society's business.

the world is not meant for children,it is meant for adults.that's why we grow up.

so grow up already!



This has to go down as one of the most ignorant statements i have heard in a long while...

Do you deny that there are gangs that deliberately kidnap, drug and then force woman into prostitution??

Do you deny that most of the women in prostitution are from abusive backgrounds?

If a woman wants to rent out her own body then that’s up to her... but most of the time that’s NOT the case... most woman are forced into it by one form of external force or another.

And just because someone is not having a physical effect on an issue does not mean that they cannot have an opinion on it... I already have a job and a family in Britain... I cannot just quit my life and open up a business for ex prostitutes in Amsterdam, but I can have an opinion on it!!!

I think that it is you that needs to grow up... grow up and learn to have a bit of compassion for fellow human beings who are being exploited... The people that use and exploit people, for whatever reason, are nothing more than filthy parasites that feed off the misery of others!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Muckster

Originally posted by the_grand_pooh-bah
before you come down on red light districts,in some areas this is the ONLY way for a female to earn money.

if you don't like this why aren't you there giving her other employment opportunities?

the ugly flaw in the femi-nazi movement is that it is the women's RIGHT to rent out her own body for whatever reason she wants to.(porno or surrogate mom or prostitute or wife)

it is the parents duty to guide their childs development,it is not government or society's business.

the world is not meant for children,it is meant for adults.that's why we grow up.

so grow up already!



This has to go down as one of the most ignorant statements i have heard in a long while...

*i sincerely doubt that drama queen,grow a testicle

Do you deny that there are gangs that deliberately kidnap, drug and then force woman into prostitution??

*no i don't,but i've never even seen a pimp,only women asking me back to my room.THEY initiate contact except in red light areas(amsterdam)

Do you deny that most of the women in prostitution are from abusive backgrounds?

*most HUMANS are from abusive backgrounds.

If a woman wants to rent out her own body then that’s up to her... but most of the time that’s NOT the case... most woman are forced into it by one form of external force or another.

*most of the time??how do you know that and why don't you report it when you find out?I WISH our police were like the dutch police.so if you know all this why not report it to the police?If the victim won't report it what can we do?should we lock down everyone on the planet with a vagina until we can conduct personal interviews to make sure they are free and happy?

And just because someone is not having a physical effect on an issue does not mean that they cannot have an opinion on it... I already have a job and a family in Britain... I cannot just quit my life and open up a business for ex prostitutes in Amsterdam, but I can have an opinion on it!!!

*and i have an opinion too,if its not worth the inconvenience to you to help then fine.
At the end of the day with me they get money and food to eat.
what do they get from you?
your opinion.

I think that it is you that needs to grow up... grow up and learn to have a bit of compassion for fellow human beings who are being exploited... The people that use and exploit people, for whatever reason, are nothing more than filthy parasites that feed off the misery of others!

*of course it's horrible people exploit others,but given that most exploitation in this world ends in MURDERS i think you are being a little bit of a pansy about it.Humans exploit humans,or as it's more commonly called "society"
I don't like it anymore than you do i just save my whining for serious issues.

opinions are great,but if enough with yours get together and make laws or get jobs in law enforcement you get stuff like this happening.
www.colorlines.com...


sorry if all this is confusing,still trying to learn ATS bells and whistles or whatever


[edit on 20-1-2010 by the_grand_pooh-bah]



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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I have to disagree completely. Those who play violent video games are only effected if they have a premature brain. I did a research on violence amongst teenagers and found that violent video games don't contribute to violence as much as people think. It contributes negativity but what doesn't these days?

Turn on the TV and put bugs bunny and see what he does. I'd say that television contributes more negativity in general than video games and porn combined.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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Video games actually have been known to produce high blood pressure in children making them very aggressive. But they also help with the eyes distinguishing different colors.I believe that these big gaming companies should stop producing shoot em ups because they brainwash kids into wanting to join the military or a gang or something similar because they want real gunfight action and could eventually get themselves killed in real life or put in jail for murder or other crimes. What they should be producing are more games that are to help people to be cooperative with one another, like instead of killing each other maybe help each other with a big puzzle.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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*i sincerely doubt that drama queen,grow a testicle




You talk big for someone hidding behind a keyboard... because i have compassion for others do not take me for soft!!

Personal insults will get you nowhere... it just helps to weaken your own argument by making you look childish...




*most of the time??how do you know that and why don't you report it when you find out?I WISH our police were like the dutch police.so if you know all this why not report it to the police?If the victim won't report it what can we do?should we lock down everyone on the planet with a vagina until we can conduct personal interviews to make sure they are free and happy?


Another ridiculous and childish statement... I really cannot be bothered to explain the whole demographics behind prostitution (partly because i think you already know but just want to ignore the facts so that you may continue a path of self indulgence without emotional consequence)

I will, however, provide you with some links so that maybe you will learn for yourself... Although i have a bad feeling that you will not be interested in any of this... and will continue on your path of selfish exploitative mindset... i hope I’m wrong...


news.bbc.co.uk...

news.bbc.co.uk...

news.bbc.co.uk...

www.mmp.org...

psychservices.psychiatryonline.org...




And please... learn to use the quote function on ATS correctly...



posted on Feb, 19 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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not talking big,just like i would in person.

you are implying that my lifestyle is evil and by extension me as well.
which i take as an insult,hence my attitude.

don't the women get a say in what happens with their bodies?
or do they only get the rights if they use them how you like?

if you can't be bothered to respond why did you.
because i was right.
then you went on to call my argument childish which is a personal attack just like your hypocritical self cried about when i did it.

you seem to think you are superior to prostitutes and you are not.
we are all prostitutes,some are smart enough to realize this fact.

i have had friends in both the adult film industry and in the sex worker industries.
I guarantee they are more fun to hang out with than you and your bible study friends are.

and i read all your links.
they were FORCED by lack of MONEY??
since when is that force?force is when you are beaten down,not merely broke.
that your sky god doesn't like premarital sex is why you don't like it.

trying to learn the functions but i'm barely able to email,don't own a cellphone and can't text.
never a teenager around when you need one...

[edit on 19-2-2010 by the_grand_pooh-bah]



posted on Feb, 19 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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As long as were over 18..PORN RULES!!! giggity giggity. Its great for the adults who responsibly enjoy it, and its a great tool for finding creepos. I think Im going to try to get a Masters degree in porn. Just like my old lady is doing. Ha Ha thats my joke.

Violence is great as well. Violent porn is even better. Not rape porn. Just like running gun battle porn, Porn while blasting aliens and killing Italian criminals. haha. thats my joke.

Healthy exploration of oneself is fantastic

I dont know ..I guess I dont have a problem with simulated violence or porn. (responsibly of course)



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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Well you have your opinion I have mine... regardless of whether you think my morals are controlled by my "sky god" or the wizard of Oz makes no difference... they still unable me to see when humans are being exploited!




you are implying that my lifestyle is evil and by extension me as well.
which i take as an insult,hence my attitude.



This almost sounds like an admittance of using prostitutes... that would better explain your inability to see the other side of the argument!




if you can't be bothered to respond why did you.
because i was right.
then you went on to call my argument childish which is a personal attack just like your hypocritical self cried about when i did it.



I didn’t say "i cant be bothered to respond!!! I said "I really cannot be bothered to explain the whole demographics behind prostitution"

A BIG difference... To explain the demographics behind prostitution would take a few pages and would probably just be ignored or skim read... not worth the effort considering how entrenched in your opinion you are...

I called your argument childish... not you... there is a difference. You personally called me a "Drama Queen" and then said "grow a testicle"

That is a direct attack! You say you talk like that in person??? lol... you wouldn’t last long where i come from...




i have had friends in both the adult film industry and in the sex worker industries.
I guarantee they are more fun to hang out with than you and your bible study friends are.



What Bible study friends?? Again you make assumptions and then use them assumptions as the basis for an attack... You have either looked at my profile and know that i am a Christian... or you have just assumed it... and then gone on to use anti religious rhetoric to provoke an emotional response


I have not once used any religious references in my argument... yet you choose to pick out my religion and then discriminate against me for my personal beliefs...

Seriously.... you can’t rattle me like that... In my life i have faced a vast and varied amount of discrimination and have thick skin!

Another assumption you seem to be making is that i want to see a complete ban of prostitution!!! I do not!!! And i have never said that!!

I would like to see prostitution regulated and licensed far more strongly... more protection offered to the prostitutes, also, and far more importantly, more support for those people who want to get out...

I would also want support lines setup for people who are being pushed towards prostitution and better protection for those who are being exploited by criminal gangs. Regular drug test would also be mandatory to keep the licence!

Better health care, better protection, closer monitoring, and a way out!!!

Once all this is in place i realise that there would still be prostitutes who would work outside of the law... mainly people who couldn’t get a license such as HIV+ people and drug users! To counter this i would introduce far greater punishments for people caught using illegal prostitutes while still including all the support functions for the illegal prostitutes.


Having said all this... it doesn’t change my moral view on the exploitation of humans for personal pleasure... and if my moral stance offends you... tough luck...



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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im not going to keep making my points over and over.

i've lasted 40 yrs so far talking like that.I live on isla mujeres in mexico,i'll meet you at the ferry if you are smart enough to come here.(it really is a beautiful place and very small)or ask for an American expat named mike and you will find me within an hour.

i said already i DO use prostitutes and there is nothing wrong with that regardless of what you think.

i understand you want to stop prostitution by regulating it to death.more government,that's what we need.
if crimes are committed (rape,kidnapping or coercion )then prosecute those crimes,but don't tell women(or i guess anyone over 18)what they can do with their own body.

i didnt look at your profile i could smell the bible thumper in your posts.
your religion has done more damage to the simple minded in society than violent video games,prostitution,pornography,drugs,slavery and drunk driving combined.


[edit on 20-2-2010 by the_grand_pooh-bah]



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Again you discriminate because of my beliefs and use personal attacks... I could have easily used derogatory words and person insults... but i didnt, the only thing i did was disagree with your opinion on this particular issue...


Seriously... do not stereotype me as a Ned Flanders... i am far from that


With regards to the subject at hand... you have your opinion... i have mine... let’s leave it at that!


[edit on 20-2-2010 by Muckster]



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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*** ATTENTION ***

Alright, since we're all thumping our chests and inviting each other for a visit, let's remember we do things around here in a civil manner, so KNOCK IT OFF.

Posting Bans await.



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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Yeah fair play... although i have no malicious intentions i can see your point... i will leave this thread to prevent any further problems... sorry


*** I’ve edited and removed the part in my previous post that you may have been referring to ***

[edit on 20-2-2010 by Muckster]



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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I agree that age ratings should be enforced by parents but at the same time I have been a gamer my whole life and has never made me want to commit acts of violence. I have a degree in computer games design so I have mixed with and lived with the most nerdiest of video gamers and one things for sure it does not make them violent in any way. They don't have twisted minds and don't want to steal a car and run people over in fact theyre one of the most docile bunch I've ever met. I hate it when the MSM accuse video games for causing particular crimes because I know from experience what gaming enthusiasts are like. The only thing you can accuse them of is not leaving te house enough.



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