Ron Jeremy says violent video games 'worse' than porn

Ron Jeremy's an idiot.

I'll just make a small statement right now: When I kill in a video game I don't feel the need to kill someone in real life. When I watch porn I want to masturbate.

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LOL any child with stress is bad...


I think having a 8 or 9 year old playing a killing game is bad news, if your a parent allowing this wow, your taking your kid down the wrong track. Yet I just do not think a child finding some porn is not as bad as simulating in a video game how to kill people, virtual or not, a child may not have the mental stability to know what is right or wrong in the future, I dunno but my kid would not be putting hours of decentization of moral principals. Porn is bad for a child and so is violent video games. Yet hormones or curiousity will stimulate the child to look at porn, I beleive violent games can be governed and may mentally be more harmful to a child...

Originally posted by Whine Flu
Ron Jeremy's an idiot.

I'll just make a small statement right now: When I kill in a video game I don't feel the need to kill someone in real life. When I watch porn I want to masturbate.

I don't expect a response, and I'm not accusing you of being any way. I'm just curious. Might you be somewhat (more?) inclined towards hostility if you didn't have the outlet of a video game? If so, do you think this outlet provides any real solution, or just a means to get by? It seems to me this outlet prevents growth. It keeps people engaged in a primal mind-state.

Hopefully I haven't offended you. I seek only to understand. I do understand that I'm the minority here, and the idiot/loser type for not just going along with the flow. I just never really comprehended such an enjoyment. It never really seemed worth my time to play violent video games.

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Nah, I know better than to take that crap out on the streets, and if I ever did so, it wouldn't be because of violent games, it would be a combination of my peaking passive aggressiveness and someone or some people trying to push my buttons. If I didn't have games that had no violence it wouldn't change my mindset one bit. You'd have to have a seriously weak mind to harm people because you saw it in a game.

Plus, killing doesn't arouse me like a naked woman does.

Wait, that doesn't sound right. Yknow what I mean.

Yes...Trust a washed out porn star. Thats what your kids need porn- not video games...sure Mr. Jeremy.

Anyone who believes this man is warped. Video games don't cause people to kill people- this has been proven time and time again. Idiots kill people. Not videogames.



If you haven't played video games then you have no idea how irrelevant real world violence is to playing games.

Okay, I am going to go out on a limb here, a bit.
I do not believe the violent video games are necessarily bad, in a vacuum. Meaning, the game is not dangerous.
A gun has more potential for harm. Granted.
Pornography is not necessarily bad. Venereal disease has more potential harm.
They are both "drugs" in a way. They relieve "something"...
They are both capable of being abused, and the people that bring you these "drugs" are always trying to find ways to get you hooked.
So,
keep this in mind, and think about the kids.l
That is all I am saying.

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Yes, so is porn.... I can't understand how everyone here is ok with porn but when violent video games come into play you go crazy and say oh heck no ... no kid of mine will play a violent game because porn is normal.

First off not all violent games are bad. Most are referring to grand theft auto that you can beat and mug people.

Their is horror games like manhunt and manhunt2 they teach you how to survive becoming a victim from crazy people. You have to kill people to save yourself.

Video games in general are helpful. The games help you make up a strategy.

Yet people get mad at violent video games but not with violent movies. I have see parents take a 5 year old to see SAW movies. Yet no one complains about the horror films. Just violent video games.

Now porn has a worst effect. Someone said they rather have their son or daughter to see porn then play violent video games because porn in natural. Yet porn isn't natural is created to stimulate your mind for sexual weakness points. Once caved in you keep coming back for more.

They teach you about love which is false as long your kid keeps coming to watch porn the money will keep coming in. Porn doesn't help society they are just taking advantage of people's sexual weakness for nothing but money.

So you would rather have your daughter or son learn that sex is nothing but a product. So all girls charge for a show.

That is why their is now sex consultation for people who can't stop thinking about it.

As for as I know love isn't what porn is... and porn isn't natural. It mainly shows that love is all about how your body looks. In reality it's not.

So I personally think porn is more damaging then violent video games.

Violent video games don't hurt people mentally. I personally think it's all up to the person.

Every kid needs to know that video games are fake and are just their for entertainment.
They just need to know that what are on video games doesn't apply in real life.

I met many gamers. I have a friend that is a game addict he is chinese and only play chinese video games. I keep telling him to study and stuff but he dosen't listen. He now got Fired from MCDONALDS by pushing a co-worker female for no reason. He now isn't in college anymore since his grades are low and he has no money.

He is a game addict. I am not a game addict and nor is my other games. I personally think you can easily turn of the game whenever you want. It's just it takes you to want to turn of the game when you know you have no more time to spend on it and got to study or do homework or do something that is needed to be done.

Plus you can't saw my friend push the girl because of violent video games. He plays fighting style demon and dragon ninjas. He watches alot of fighting movies and learn some karate.


So to conclude what I am saying it depends on the person. If the person can't handle something like violent movies,games, or porn. Then they shouldn't be having them in possession.

It boils down to parents. For me if I have a kid I won't mind them playing violent video games or watch horror movies.

I would watch closely though on their behavior afterwards. If they can't handle it and start to think what's in the video games is normal or ok to kill people I will make sure he learns the reality.

I wouldn't approve my son or daughter to watch porn at all. They can watch porn when they are not under my roof and isn't my responsibility anymore.

that just my views on this topic. I did a research paper on violent video games. I had to do the history of video games and then how ESB ratings came into the picture. To the latest arguments about grand theft auto series by rockstar games.

What other said above is kinda stupid.. I am talking about saying oh would you want your son or daughter to be caught having sex or be caught disposing a dead body.

It's the same thing as would you want to find out your son or daughter doing a school shooting or would you rather have them being caught raping people on the streets or killing the opposite sex and have sex with a head body before disposing the body.

It makes no sense. violent crimes are violent crimes. It dosen't mean if you watch porn and play violent video games you automatically do these crimes.

It boils down to the persons thoughts and boldness. If he wants to have sex. He might after watching porn ... the porn would influence him to do a sexual crime. If he is bold enough he might think or actually carry out a crime. To be honest violent video games and porn might encourage a person to do a crime. This only means the person has to have the desire to do a crime before playing the video game or watching porn.

like I said it's mainly the behavior of the person that carries out the crime. No game or porn makes a person to do something but could influence thoughts to only those certain people.

For me as a gamer I have fun and a thrill at playing violent video games even horror games. It's kinda like a haunted house you walk threw and see what they have next. Plus I know programming so for me I mainly look at the work of each video game and always try to figure out how they did certain effects. I look mainly at the technical side of things.

So my opinion is still that porn do more damage then violent video games. Yet dosen't mean violent video games don't do damage at all but it depends on each gamer and how they look at video games and how much understand they have about video games. Meaning they are not real even though game makers try to make it as real as possible but you never should take video games as real time training or how it is in real life.

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I think Jeremy is just trying to cover his own ass because he's a bad parent so he blames video games.

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Have you played Bioshock? Sure it could be called Violent but its really about a dictatorship of objectionalism gone wrong, the player chooses whether to abuse the warped innocent people of rapture or abuse them for his own power, in the end you get the feeling that violence destroyed the city of Rapture because of a opressive governing body. Have you played Metal Gear Solid 4? Playing as an aging Solid Snake you have to sneak past the violent battlefield of war until a final confrontation with the one behind it all, after Snake attempts to kill himself because he seems to have nothing as a goal after the violence has ended, only to be told by his SPOILER......father that he needs to put violence behind him and live. Now in 2007 and 2008 these "violent" games were highly acclaimed and totled game of the year by more sources then any other, the reason was mainly because the games explored violence and didnt promote it, their storys were more the violence.

Usually if you look behind any violent videogame other then action first person shooters (bioshock is a hybrid RPG-FPS) you will find deep storys that may seems violent on the front cover but offer more meaning then any movie since most likely Taxi Driver.

You'll also notice that video games are the only mdeium left that dosen't sink to having all its heros as pretty boys with six packs, its the only mdeium that dosent have a sex scene every five seconds and its the only medium that seems to have any sort of decency nowadays.

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well, I would disagree. Ya I know about hormones that is what porn does with you it attacks your weak points just like cigarettes. To me porn is just as bad is giving your kid a cigarette. One puff your hooked on it and a bad habit forms. You then allow your child to think that sex is everything in love and when they get married they will end up getting divorced.

Violent games do show the real world in a artistic way. We do have people going around beating up old men and women. I seen it on the news. In porn they create sexual fantasies that kids would think this is normal and ok. Their is alot of fetish which are violent sexual material.

it's like saying would you allow your kid to hold a knife or have addictive drugs.

The knife isn't bad. You can still teach them how to use it properly for self defense and other stuff and not to go killing people randomly or at all.

With a addictive drug once your kid is on it ... it's usually a one way street. Or at least very hard to get them off it.

This is what porn is.. .they take advantage of your hormones and sexual drives to want porn and want to look at it. Once your drawn in and become addicted to it. You won't be able to have a solid good relationship with the other sex.

where as violent games are not addictive as in the sense of porn.

you say violent video games is all bad. Yet what about in real life. War. We constantly have simulations to teach or practice our soldiers to fight and kill our enemies.

Kids are subjected to seeing violence no matter what. It's always on the news and on tv.

So what I am saying who is just violent video games so bad rather then anything else that is violent.

I personally don't think violent games make you do violent crimes. I played since I was 3/4 years old violent games. My parents don't care.

I never became anti-social and started to do school shootings or robbing bankds or beating up old poeple for no reason but kicks.

If your statement is true that violent video games damanges kids. meaning they go down a bad path. Then prove it.

I played violent video games since I was a kid. Now I ask why don't I love to fight in public.... how come I never was in any fight in school. I never got in trouble. I never drunk beer. I don't watch porn. I am turning 21 next month. I don't plan to drink any beer or go to strip clubs or anything crap like that.

What I am saying I am living proof that video games don't make or take kids down bad baths it's the kids that do it to themselves.

Parents are responsible to see their kids behavior changes and need to take action about it. It's not the game makers job to figure out each gamers past history and what they can handle or can't handle.

Game companies are their to make games entertaining and make games what the gamers want and if the gamers want gore and sexual content you bet.. they will keep making them cuz they need to listen to their audience to make money off their products.

I do understand that violent video games are not for everyone. I just think it's fair that the game companies at least give some warning ahead of time before someone rents it for their kid.

It boils down to the parents to watch what your kid plays and if you do allow them play violent video games watch if their behavior changes. If it does change you better have a talk to your kid and do something about it before it gets out of hand.

It's the parent's job not the software developers that make video games nor the retail stores.

I still can't see how you would rather have your kid see porn then play violent video games.

You might as well just say you rather have your kid smoke weed then play violent video games because weed is part of like it relives pain.

I just can't understand that concept. I rather not have my kid watch porn then play violent video games.

violent video games do less harm then porn. If you don't believe me read up on things.
By nature you will have sexual urges... and porn feeds on these urges this becomes addictive just like cigarettes how it creates a chemical addiction reaction with the human body.

Violent video does nothing to the human body. It only can influence thoughts that could be negative. Yet the person itself has control to ignore those thoughts and or the parent can do something about it which is easier then stopping your keep from going on porn on a daily basis. Your kid can easily become addicted to porn with just one look.

I have friends that look at porn daily. They don't do much during the day just look at porn and watch tv. They never had a gf and always tried to get one but they always talk perverted. They also can't help themselves when they see good looking ladies. For me I can control myself since I never looked at porn... cuz I knew what it could do. I have 7 girls that told me that they were interested in me and I turned them down because I told him I have no time for a gf. I have to run a business and study and do hw for college classes.

This is just my opinion. I would rather have my kid play violent video games then look at porn. I wouldn't even allow my kids to look at porn even at the age 21. If they are under my roof they won't be doing such a thing else I will throw them out. I personally think that stuff ... if you look at porn or have sex with other people thats only ok when your on your own. You have a job and a place to stay. So if you messed up it's your fault and your going to pay for it yourself.

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I say consider the source. Unbiased he is not.


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the issue at hand is violent video games, not mind numbingly fun8 bit puzzles.

Well I guess we should take away all our kids video games and replace them with porn, especially your young daughters.

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Thanks for the clarification as your post said "...don't let them play videogames..." and I wanted to know if it was all games or the violent ones outlined in your posts.

Big question: Which industry would YOU prefer a woman you care for to work in porn or videogames?


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reply to post by computerwiz32

I don't know, but I think I have to disagree with you.
Video games and porn are not much different. For every evil you assign to porn, you can do the same for video games.
Consider, you are "role" playing, in both. You are "empowered" in both. You "slay" the subject in both, really.
In both, reality is NOT a component. Both can be abused. Both can make you a social misfit.
Both "stimuli" can be controlled and managed.
Ron Jeremy is trying to gain respectability for porn, it seems, by demonizing a "competitor" for the habits of the youth. For personal profit? He IS in the business...
Maybe over some heads, here.

How can anyone say porn or videogames have a negative impact on us?

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO WARS!
Seeing the real life violence on TV and the internet will have more of a negative impact on us than porn and ps3 games ever will.

Soldiers are really out there shooting and being shot at by the enemies, blood and guts are literally everywhere after someone just got domed this very instant somewhere in the world.

Yeah it might be badass when you get a headshot or multikill on people in an online game, but if you ever witnessed or had to pull the trigger in real life it would be nothing like the game. Everyone knows in life, you only get one life, there's no respawn. I think people know the difference.

And porn is just a part of the evolution of reproduction in the human speices. Big deal, we went from only doing it like animals, to drawing it on cave walls, to videotaping ourselves having sex all which ways. How is that negative on somebody? It is only the old being rubbed the wrong way by the younger generation. It will happen to the younger generation wen they get old.

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Video games. That would be my preference, however, the only thing that matters is what the woman has a preference for.

BTW, here are two things everyone should read as they contribute to the topic. The first link pertains to video game violence and the second link pertains to children and webporn.

www.apa.org...
www.apa.org...

Wow so the majoirity of this thread, basically thinks that having our children playing violent kill em all video games is better then our children sneaking around our backs looking at playboys or whatever porn venue is available..

As usual I do not agree with the majority..


OH speaking to the majority keep your kids away from Europe.. Might frighten your children at the pools, with the PORN, topless women run all around there.. Not to mention their tv shows naked women.. LOL

Guess you would be trying to sue them as well..

Yes Ron Jeremy is an idiot, but even a broken clock is right once a day.

The bigger question at hand: Why the hell does anyone care what Ron Jeremy thinks about anything? Why is BBC giving him airtime?

I mean damn if Ron Jeremy says video games are a bad influence that changes everything! /sarcasm

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