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the fact that he describes these beings as “men in clothes that gleamed as lighting” should have been a dead give away.
You and I go by faith,not by sight.Moocow has to have sight,because he hasn't any faith.
Originally posted by moocowman
... neither of these are evidence to that over 2 million jews were held captive in egypt, please bare in mind that the Egyptian evidence speaks to the contrary.
There are a number of scholars who claim that a gross error in chronology has been made in calculating the dates of Egyptian history and that they should be reduced by centuries.
If an individual dose not require evidence then he or she has no need to get into a debate over the subject they have "faith" in, indeed it is an insult to the intelligence for such a person to try to produce evidence to support their case when they have no need of it they will believe anything they are told as long as it fits in with what they choose to believe.
Seeing the universe through the blinders of religion, superstition, and magical thinking is like reading a Dick & Jane book when you could be reading Shakespeare. Dick & Jane may have been a favorite since childhood, but there is so much more out there... with depth and beauty beyond anything preimagined. Though it may be difficult to follow at times, the words hard to pronounce, if even you only ever catch the beauty of the language and prose as they flow - you'll be consumed by it. Though a part of that beauty is the inevitable and potent tragedy of it all, which must be embraced if it's to be truly savored.
ehhh kinda confused but your cat didnt die for your sins, he will not save your soul..he has no historical backup for his existence..the christian god does..
you can drop the egypt thing..i understand you keep resorting to it as it is the only thing i have not clearly shown you that you were wrong about, but you keep repeating the number 2 million lol like you expect to be able to find 2 million pairs of jewish shoes in a hole they left us to find..
i gave you a historical figure who is considered trustworth by scholars who said they were there yet you ignored it..drop the egypt thing..
Has historical backup? Heh. My bible is the creation. It IS Historical backup. 14.5 billion years of it, and accurate enough to build all the technology that you freely use to spread the word of your Dick & Jane story.
You seem to forget that any man can write a book and call it the word of god. Until you can demonstrate where man can create the Universe, there's really no contest in regards to authenticity.
Oh, I know your story book says that your god did it. Except the text and story doesn't seem to match, and when going for authenticity verification, you always try to seek source material.
Can you truly claim confidence in the authenticity of that book when you stare out into the tapestry of the cosmos?
Is your faith in god so weak that you must shield him against stories of miracles and myths of salvation... and why, to honor God? Or to chase some carrot on a stick under the presumption of reward at the end of the journey. That seems so shallow and ungrateful to me.
Originally posted by resonance
reply to post by Oscitate
this is in no way a flaw in logic..ill give you an example
lets say you have two roads that lead to the same place and you know nothing about either road.
you look at road #1 and it looks dangerous, hard, and long
you look at road #2 and it looks easy to travel
so you pick road #2...you do this knowing nothing about either..you just know road #1 looks better than road #2 and you therefore choose #1 just because you dont want to take #2...so in effect you CHOSE not to go down road 2 although you could if you wanted
It is not about God sending you to hell for punishment...your soul has to spend eternity somewhere, it cannot die, it is eternal...so you have your two choices...your 2 paths to travel for eternity, heaven or hell...God gives you the choice and if you choose not to take the easy path to heaven you are in effect willingly choosing the other path which leads to hell. what makes this better though is that God tells us about each path yet many still reject the easy one